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Old 11-23-2006, 01:08 AM   #1
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We Ordered That 2007 Safari SE LS!

Well after 11 months of daily research, we finally did it…
We decided to do our holiday shopping early and order that Airstream!

So here are the highlights of the order:
2007 23’ Safari SE LS with L-Lounge (and roll out dinette table)
LS Pkg includes 13,500 BTU AC and 1 Fantastic Fan
2nd Fantastic Fan ordered (for a total of 2 and dealer will install the reversible switch!)
Midnight Sun Interior with Graphite Counter Tops
Audio/Video Upgrade Pkg. with 19" LCD TV
Wireless External Speaker
Solar Pkg, (1 53-watt Solar Panel, 2 AGM Glassmatt batteries, Charge Control Display,
Plus and additional Solar Panel for a total of two panels.)
600-watt Inverter
Full Awning Pkg. (3 sides) – Charcoal Tweed
Equalizer 1000 lb. WD Hitch – Dealer will provide and install

Dealer said it was good to order now as prices are going up December 5th!

So now we… and the flamingos await the delivery!

Happy Holidays and Thanks to all who have helped with the research!

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Old 11-23-2006, 06:01 AM   #2
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Equalizer bars?

Congratulations Bill! I'm sure this is an exciting time for you. And when aren't prices going up? Did they give an estimate of production time?

I'm wondering if 1000# bars on the Equalizer aren't a bit too much. You'll have plenty of time to mull this over before your dealer gets delivery and would actually install the WD gear. Airstream's website doesn't have this model's hitch weight but would look to be in the 600 pound range. I believe Silvertwinkie has noted how much better his ride improved when he dropped down from 1000# bars (and he has a 25' SS). Did he go to 600# bars? There may be an apple and oranges problem with this comparison because Twink uses a Reese Dual Cam (as do I) -- So I hope we get some Equalizer users reading if they're not in the kitchen...

An effective WD setup will have enough flex to force down the front & rear of your TV equally. This doesn't help you now, but before hitching one would measure to the top of the trim around your TV's wheel wells, front and rear. Then after hitching and engaging the WD bars, repeat that measurement to the same points. The amount of settle should be close to the same front and back. Now, is it fair to say once this has been accomplished that stronger bars only increase the harshness of the ride on the trailer? Anyone have a different take on this?
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:19 AM   #3
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Congratulations, SilverGate! Let's see who gets theirs first! We just ordered one yesterday morning, 25FB SE LS, with micro/conv option. After much thought and staring at the brochure and pictures online for hours, we decided on the FB model. Even though it wasn't exactly what we wanted, it was very close and we thought it best to listen to all the experienced owners of 25 FB's. Thanks to all who responded to my posts. It really helped us make a decision.
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:10 AM   #4
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That sounds way COOL! Congrats, happy campin!
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:25 AM   #5
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Congratulations on expecting the new baby. The wait will be difficult, but worth it in the end, as you will be getting exactly what you want. This will also give you time to pick out an appropriate name for your 'stream. This will also give you time to "accessorize". That is the act of buying more stuff for the new Airstream than it is capable of carrying.

The wait begins; keep us posted.
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:59 AM   #6
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We picked up our new 25' FB SE LS last Tuesday and I must say the quality control guys must have done their job this time around. Fit and Finish is vastly superior to F&F on our 2005 22' CCD. Don't know why the Safari line costs less then the Internat'l when the quality seems better all around!
Enjoy your new baby when it arrives, you won't be disappointed.
Cheers and a happy T-Day
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Old 11-23-2006, 03:00 PM   #7
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Thanks Bob, balrgn, Jeff, moosetags, and tport40 (welcome to the forums)…

Thanks all for the congratulations! Yes we’re excited.
Estimated production time: 6 – 8 weeks…
Which is time needed for us to get organized and prepared!

Thanks for your concern re: Equalizer Hitch. Lots of info about it here on forums.
But the quickest answer is that the new 2007 Airstream Brochure states:
"Hitch Weight without options or variable weight for 23’ Safari SE is 600 lbs."
I’ve got a lot of options: Full Awning Pkg. (3-sides), 2 Solar Panels…
And those heavier 2 Glassmatt batteries…
Then hauling fresh water out for desert camping.
So I think I’ll go with the Equalizer 1000 lb. WD Hitch.
But I welcome the discussion… and will keep an open mind!

Happy holidays all!
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:32 PM   #8
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atta boy

congrats Bill, I leave to pick up my 20'Safari SE LS on 12/5. Maybe we can have our own rally in the Cabrillo National Monument parking lot.
I also have a 600# tongue weight and was planning to go with the 1000# eqal- I- zer hitch. Is the coach length a factor or just tongue weight?
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:57 PM   #9
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Conrats!

If you are like I was, there are many sleepless nights in your future until your AS arrives. Till then you will have to live vicariously through all your AS Forum friends online!

Here is what followed me home.

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Old 11-24-2006, 07:11 AM   #10
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Congratulations Silvergate from Robert and Sherry!!!!

We have the 2006 Safari SE LS and love it. We have almost the same package but not the solar panels, and not the external speakers (I might have blown it there).

Anyway, we are going to be camping at San Elijo (near you) campground starting Dec 26th thru New Years Day. Please come down and join us for a glass of wine and fire. Email if you are interested! Otherwise, enjoy your holidays and take some pics of your rig for us when you get settled in.


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Old 11-25-2006, 01:46 PM   #11
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Thanks... we'll be there!

Yes… and same TV… 2006 F-250 PSD!
Thanks Robert and Sherry!
Looking forward to meeting you at San Elijo State Beach…
We’ll celebrate our adventurous New Year early…
And we’ll bring the wine!

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Old 11-25-2006, 03:57 PM   #12
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3DogNight: I see you also live in San Diego. If you have the time, and are so inclined come on by San Elijo campground between Xmas and New years. The 27th in the afternoon would be a great time, and Silvergate will stop by. Was thinking around 3:00 pm. E mail if you are interested, and heck you will have your rig by then too.

Silvergate: Got your message, so will see you all then. Great.

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Old 11-25-2006, 04:50 PM   #13
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[quote=3Dog I also have a 600# tongue weight and was planning to go with the 1000# eqal- I- zer hitch. Is the coach length a factor or just tongue weight?Jerry[/quote]

If you really really really want to know, you could start here:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...sis-19236.html?
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:35 PM   #14
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Congrats

Well we know the anticipation that you are experiencing. Sounds like you went the distance and I know that your going to enjoy this purchase. By the way, the Equiizer hitch is perfect for this combo, I have it and it works great. Looking forward to seeing photos of your new toy...
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:18 AM   #15
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Thanks for the congrats!

3DogNight: Congrats on your 2007 20’ Safari SE LS due Dec 7th!
Hope you can join OpenHigher and us at San Elijo State Beach Dec. 27th!

Roscinante: Nice fall photo of your 19’ Safari!

Tsunami: Glad to hear in your pm that your 1000# Equal-I-zer works great for you…
And for your similar TV: 2006 Silvarado 2500 Duramax/Allison…
Pulling a 2006 23’ Safari SE over 8000 mi. since May 2006!
You say it’s been flawless and worry-free towing…
Just what I wanted to hear… in-the-field experience!

Nickcrowhurst: Thanks for answering 3DogNights’s question…
By referring him to your impressive mathematical analysis of load distribution hitches!

Thanks again all and Happy Holidays!
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Equalizer

We use the 4-way Equalizer. It takes care of the sway and weight distribution. We pulled our 30' Limited through some high whipping winds at Palm Springs. The Wind Mills were spinning and the our Airstream never swayed or strayed. The big trucks that passed us on IH10 or that is fly by, never bothered the silver roadrunner. She never wiggled.
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Old 11-26-2006, 05:33 PM   #17
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chain tension as related to hitch to axel

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If you really really really want to know, you could start here:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...sis-19236.html?
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Nick, Not wanting to dull Silvergate's excitement of his new AS purchase by going off topic on his thread I replied on your original thread that you noted. If you have time please give it a check and help me clear up any of my misunderstandings. Thanks, Jerry
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Nick, .... If you have time please give it a check and help me clear up any of my misunderstandings. Thanks, Jerry
Jerry, will do.
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:15 PM   #19
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Equal-i-zer Users... let's mull this over!

Bob (Canoe stream): Well I continue to mull over the Equal-i-zer size question…
And invite other Equal-i-zer users to come out of the kitchen…
And bring some hot-mulled wine or ale with you… (you’ll need it)
While you read and contribute to: "Load Distribution Hitches…" under Towing at:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f238/load-distribution-hitches-analysis-19236-4.html
Then…
Equal-i-zer users: Let's elevate our knowledge base:
If you have been reading this thread and have an Equal-i-zer WD Hitch…
Please take a moment and go to "Community Polls" here:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f232/what-size-equal-i-zer-hitch-do-you-use-28204.html
And add to our knowledge base under thread, "What size Equal-i-zer Hitch Do You Use?"
The size of your Equal-i-zer Hitch (600# or 1000#)
Your tow vehicle model and size
Your trailer size… and why you like your hitch.

Thank you!
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If you are like I was, there are many sleepless nights in your future until your AS arrives. Till then you will have to live vicariously through all your AS Forum friends online!

Here is what followed me home.

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