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Old 01-25-2016, 02:43 PM   #1
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1959 18 footer Globester panel replacement

I started a thread a while back http://www.airforums.com/forums/f112...er-141326.html

I'm at the point of starting to replace panels. Sadly there are about 9 panels that need replaced. I'm ordering the 2024 T-3 All Clad .032 aluminum.

I had a couple of questions since this my first frame off restoration.
The frame, axle, brakes, gas lines, floor, belly skin, insulation, wraps, are done. Flipped upright and have shell sitting on channels.

Before I started to remove too many panels I figured I'd level, jack up rear to proper height and attach front and rear corners at least enough to hold shell in place. I didn't want to drill too many holes in new channel since most lower panels need to be removed.

From what I understand it is best to put panels in place and use skins that will stay to drill holes. I see where some people drill holes off of old panels and not too sure that's the way to go.

I spoke with Colin Hyde and he suggested to get all leveled and attached then replace one panel at a time so not to have a wet noodle flopping around. He had suggested using straps to crank down shell as it is sitting over wraps but still not settled down where it should be. Also there are no old holes in channel to line up. I used 3/4" ply as well,. Wheel wells don't line up even remotely close as wells were beat pretty good. I'll need to reinforce those with some channel as there is not much of anything to attach to.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Old 01-25-2016, 03:16 PM   #2
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Well I waited 35 minutes so couldn't edit post. That seems silly not to be able to edit.

There was Butyl putty tape I believe at wheel wells / side panel and at door / corner panel.
Is that still used or Vulcrum, or TremPro 635? Is it used on each rivet or on each panel seam or both? I guess it would make removing pretty difficult if you had to replace a panel again.
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Old 01-31-2016, 07:32 AM   #3
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I used black sikaflex 221 on wheel wells. And gray sikaflex 222 on patches and rivets. It helps seal the up. I know it's overkill but I hope not to take it apart again. I believe the factory does seal the the seams. Btw, great job. Keep it up!! You'll be camping soon with shiny metal
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:43 PM   #4
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I used black sikaflex 221 on wheel wells. And gray sikaflex 222 on patches and rivets. It helps seal the up. I know it's overkill but I hope not to take it apart again. I believe the factory does seal the the seams. Btw, great job. Keep it up!! You'll be camping soon with shiny metal
Thanks for the words of encouragement as I was beginning to talk to myself. I wasn't sure if anyone was seeing these threads.

I'm starting to get things in position. Have the front and rear attached with temporary screws / rivets, cleco's .

Got L brackets in channels at door jamb, and jamb is opening proper.

Just got aluminum, waiting on sealant, more tools, cleco's..etc..
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Old 02-01-2016, 11:37 PM   #5
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Buck riveting is fun. Start in center and make your way out. You've done all the hard stuff. The panels will go quick and you'll look at the finished panels and be like "yep I just did that". Swagger inside and have the mrs come and admire. Can't wait to see the panels done. Swagger on😎
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:17 AM   #6
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Buck riveting is fun. Start in center and make your way out. You've done all the hard stuff. The panels will go quick and you'll look at the finished panels and be like "yep I just did that". Swagger inside and have the mrs come and admire. Can't wait to see the panels done. Swagger on��
well don't have a mrs any more so I'll just keep talking to myself...LOL!

Yeah I was gonna ask that....where to start one edge or center.
Do you run a bead of sealant on just rivets?

I was talking to Kip (Aerowood) and I believe he suggested fitting drilling and then removing to de-burr. Then I guess run a bead of sealant on the panel edge and try and squeeze it back in place, cleco in place, coat each rivet as you go?
sounds pretty messy so I'd guess wearing rubber gloves and lots of thinner for clean up???
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That's the procedure I would do. On my patches I put sealant on everything- the patch, rivets and the sealed around patch. On my belly pan to shell I'll do the same approach as above. Good luck. Post some pics.
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Consider .040 thick material, specially for the big flat panels. It won't get all wavy as easily and it's almost impossible to tell any difference in the final look.
I pre drill from the old panel but use 3/32 holes and lots of clecos to fit it all. A final 1/8 or 5/32 hole ( depending on your rivet selection) gives you a little wiggle room for final alignment.
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Of course i already ordered .032. I guess I could get two more sheets of .040. Each side panel is I think 42" x 95". That would help to keep it flat.

I noticed that they used 2024 for interior panels so I could use some of this .032 in there.
I've been scraping and chisling out undercoating on main junctures and around door entry which needs serious attention. I have to take the door off for that side panel but I have framing in place and attached firmly.

As I was scraping with a small chisel I slipped and caught a point of sheet metal. it was tingly for some time and I wanted to finish this stretch before I took a break.
When I did my finger was bloody contained in the gloves. No wonder it was tingly so much. It went through the glove and the nail....yow!

I finally took out my ceiling brace for lifting the shell...not coming off again.

I'm liking this little ACE Rivet gun...for straight runs its great, fewer pulls to do the job, no jams.
I have a flex head for angles but straight shot not crazy about it.
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Is the rivet gun for the inside?
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Ouch. I cut a nerve in my left hand doing the same thing.

A heat gun softens some of that goop up.
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Is the rivet gun for the inside?
anywhere you have a straight shot.
I used it on the belly pan when inverted and had to remove at the door entrance for elevator bolts / L brackets and re-attach.

It has a longer grip range and my counter guy at ACE swore he'd never had one returned. It says "guaranteed" on package which I believe him.
It takes less pulls for each rivet which adds up.

I got tired of switching from 3/16" to 1/8" so I bought it...only $11.95.
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Ouch. I cut a nerve in my left hand doing the same thing.

A heat gun softens some of that goop up.
Yeah Vernon, It's funny how you figure stuff out by trying many different things..I have a rigid angled putty knife that worked well on the old hard brittle stuff in flat areas. then the little wood chisel is good around rivets on heavier curved wall channels. It still takes time, time, time.
I'll give the heat gun a try too. I was thinking about the aircraft paint stripper as well but messy and splatters on yur skin..gets itchy, messy.

I was thinking about the pain and how much someone would have to pay me to intentionally cut or pierce myself...It would cost a whole lot. But here I do it for free all the time.
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Put the front corner piece back on with clecos. Got the body clecoed down to the floor leveled and jacked around.
Now was time to take the interior panels out and remove the remaining insulation.
Rolled up the ceiling and bagged insulation.
I'll remove interior end caps tomorrow. I haven't decided if I'll strip those and refinish or what. The rest I will replace as it was hacked up pretty good. I am also eliminating things and moving everything around.
Got my caulk, 2024 T3 and all my tools that I needed.
I'll try and get all the insulation scrubbed and blown, washed out and set up to start replacing panels. I have many panels to replace, this is going to be interesting. Looking forward to getting those done.
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