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Old 11-08-2006, 02:59 AM   #1
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Jacked in the wrong spot and need body/frame advice

I found the "jack" point under the trailer clearly marked "jack". I jacked the tires off the ground and took a look at where the jack was placed to make sure it was OK. You know the rest. the "jack" point is not the "jack" point. It's about 1'+- inward from the "jack" sticker. I figure I've got about $500+- of body work to do now as a result of using the "jack" point. Hoping for some expert advice how to fix the mess. This subject is on another thread too. It was suggested that it's more appropriate here. The short frame wing was bent up inside and I don't know what else may be damaged. Appreciate your suggestions how to repair. Thanks
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Old 11-08-2006, 03:00 AM   #2
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Old 11-08-2006, 06:37 AM   #3
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ouch! sorry about that. i'm more of a vintage man, myself. good luck, though. in the future, can you jack them up by the axle? that's how i do mine.

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ouch! sorry about that. i'm more of a vintage man, myself. good luck, though. in the future, can you jack them up by the axle? that's how i do mine.

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I am mad and it is not my trailer. I am going to get some big red stickers and put them on the correct jack points on my trailer today.

Hope you can make a easy and cheap repair.

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ouch! sorry about that. i'm more of a vintage man, myself. good luck, though. in the future, can you jack them up by the axle? that's how i do mine.
Please don't put the jack on the axle -- that will damage them. Put the jack on the steel beam to which the axle is attached. The labeled jack points are for placing stabilizers only, not for jacking up to change a tire for instance -- it's too easy to slide right off.
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Our '05 Safari 25' has stickers on the bottom that say jack point. Based on these posts, I am now confused about what those stickers mean. Can someone clear this up for me?
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How to repair

Back to his original question - any advice on repairs? It looks to me like he needs to pull the banana wrap and check out the outrigger and repair, then straighten or replace the section of wrap. Someone with some experience here help the gentleman out.
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I found the "jack" point under the trailer clearly marked "jack". I jacked the tires off the ground and took a look at where the jack was placed to make sure it was OK. You know the rest. the "jack" point is not the "jack" point. It's about 1'+- inward from the "jack" sticker. I figure I've got about $500+- of body work to do now as a result of using the "jack" point. Hoping for some expert advice how to fix the mess. This subject is on another thread too. It was suggested that it's more appropriate here. The short frame wing was bent up inside and I don't know what else may be damaged. Appreciate your suggestions how to repair. Thanks

The JACK labels on the frame are for stabilizing jacks ONLY.

You must never use that spot to lift the trailer. If you do, serious damage can occur.

Lifting any Airstream or Argosy trailer, "ever built" or will be built, is "ALWAYS"
done using the rear of the axle mounting plates for a single axle, between the tires for a tandem axle, and between the rear and center tire for a tri-axle.

Additionally, NEVER, EVER lift, a trailer by placing a jack under a torsion axle.

It is possible by doing so, to cause a change in the alignment.

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Seems there's some remaining confusion. Would you elaborate where to look for the proper jack point for a two axle unit? I didn't look yet but that's the first I heard about the spot between the tires. AS just told me to use the square metal patch beyond the "jack" sticker on the frame (opposite the point I used). Help!
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Seems there's some remaining confusion. Would you elaborate where to look for the proper jack point for a two axle unit? I didn't look yet but that's the first I heard about the spot between the tires. AS just told me to use the square metal patch beyond the "jack" sticker on the frame (opposite the point I used). Help!
The correct placement of a floor or bottle jack is always on the "axle mounting plates."

It's the plate that is welded to the side of the main frame, that extends downward from the frame, that the axles are bolt to.

Every torsion axle equipped trailer has them, except some of the very early 1961 Airstream trailers.

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Thanks, I'll look. Can you un-confuse the issue about what the AS jack points are for? Stabilizer jacks, etc.? I assume that means that you use those points only for stabilizing the trailer on uneven ground when you stay somewhere for awhile? Or what? Curious why AS says to use those points for jacking. What's an FNG like me to do?
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The owners manual for my 2002 30' Classic says to find the "jack decal" towards the rear of trailer behind the tires and place the jack to change a tire on the riveted plate. It says nothing about jacking between the tires.

Does Andy know something I am missing?
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Thanks, I'll look. Can you un-confuse the issue about what the AS jack points are for? Stabilizer jacks, etc.? I assume that means that you use those points only for stabilizing the trailer on uneven ground when you stay somewhere for awhile? Or what? Curious why AS says to use those points for jacking. What's an FNG like me to do?
In spite of what Airstream says, at least in this case, the labeled "jack" points are for stabilizer jacks "ONLY."

How do you learn about your Airstream and many of it's quirks?

Easy.

Ask all your questions on this site.

Several people will usually respond.

In the case of different answers to the same question, opinions are exactly that and facts are facts.

You must make the choices of what you feel comfortable with.

There are those that promote safety, and there are those that disregard it.
There are those that wish to do it right the first time, and there are those who live by the "good enough" theory.

There are those that wish to use original type replacement parts and there are those that will use whatever they can find. Again, that is choices that you can make.

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