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10-20-2005, 02:23 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1994 34' Excella
sundance
, Wyoming
Join Date: Oct 2005
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1993 limited Vs. 1994 Excella Classic
What are the pro's and cons of each .Is the Limited worth $2000.00 more?
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10-20-2005, 02:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Sunnyvale
, California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,894
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Interior Trim.
It depends.. (Lawyers LOVE than answer... )
General differences are exterior trim coloring and interior trim fabrics, wood and decor.. Whether YOU would pay extra for the Limited trim depends on how you lke the way those were done.. They are the same structurally, same plumbing, tanks, etc, though Limited may have nicer counters and plumbing fixtures.. Resale pretty subjective also, so I personally wouldn't pay extra for investment value...
Assumes both are same floor plan and length.. Those are important determinants of value also, as bedroom configuration and lenght (tow-ability) play a role, with 34's often worth less than 31's or 28-29's, since they need a much tougher tow vehicle...
If you've looked at a bunch of trailers, you'll be able to tell by looking inside one imediately whether it is worth the extra money to you or not.. At 10+ years old, condition also is probably a bigger deal than the trim level..
John McG
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10-20-2005, 03:12 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
Mississauga
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,244
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The 94 was the first year of the new roof profile. The roof is more square.
Not like a sob but it gives more headroom inside. In 95 they added 6 inches to the width making it a widebody. The 94 looks and feels much more roomy inside. I have a 94 Excella so I speak from experience.
Al
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10-20-2005, 03:15 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
Mississauga
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,244
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I would not go for a pre 94 trailer now that I have mine and also don't think I would upgrade to a widebody since it makes it tougher to park in some narrow sites and must add some wind resistance. I tow a lot.
Al
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10-20-2005, 03:35 PM
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Just an old timer...
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,766
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Yes. I'm a '94 Limited owner. Spend the money.
Roger
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Former Airstreams: 1953 Flying Cloud, 1957 Overlander, 1961 Bambi, 1970 Safari Special, 1978 Argosy Minuet, 1985 325 Moho, 1994 Limited 34' Two-door, 1994 B190 "B-Van"
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10-20-2005, 03:56 PM
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Rivet Master
Elgin
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 800
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 85MH325
Yes. I'm a '94 Limited owner. Spend the money.
Roger
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That goes double for me!
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10-20-2005, 04:05 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1994 34' Excella
sundance
, Wyoming
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 5
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Excella Classic Vs. Limited
The Limited is a 93 .It has electric levelers -Not sure thats worth $2000 to me
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10-20-2005, 04:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1992 34' Limited
Falls Church
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 945
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Electric levelers.... wroth the extra $?
Having a '92 Classic Limited with the electric levelers, I can say that I find them to be worth every cent - mine are faactory installed. BTW - should you want to add this feature later, they are about $2500 or more - plus install.
Now I should say, that I haven't had a TT without the electric levelers. I do however know, that when I was in 98 degree heat in Tulsa in July, I was happy to not have to move from the front of the trailer ( by the control panel) to get everthing set up. Just hit the levers, BAM, done.
All that being said, I still don't have an electric jack on the front of the trialer. This items is however a LOT easier to install, and cheaper too.
Just a thought.
Axel
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10-20-2005, 05:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Limited
Ashland
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,610
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Like those above with mid-90's Limiteds, we love every detail about ours-pretty, roomy, comfortable, worth the buy to us. The deep red color trim is distinctive and very attractive. We didn't have to make a hard choice between different trailers with ours. She appeared in a local ad, and with the help of the forum, we made a good buy. Keep us posted with your decision.
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1995 Airstream Classic Limited 30' ~ Gypsy
1978 Argosy Minuet, 6.0~Minnie/GPZWGN
Chev Silverado 2500HD Duramax/Allison, 4X4, Crew Cab
WBCCI #5013 AIR #2908
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10-20-2005, 08:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
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Since the majority seem to be leaning toward the '94 (and it does have it's advantages), I should point out one of the advantages of the '93. The '94 has frameless windows, that according to some I have talked with are more prone to breaking than the aluminum framed windows of the '93, especially when left open in a breeze. I have met some who wouldn't consider an airstream newer than '93 for this reason. I'm not sure I would use this as my only reason for selecting a trailer, but it is a strong consideration for some.
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10-21-2005, 08:09 AM
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Rivet Master
Elgin
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 800
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To me, the electric stabilizer jacks are worth it. I did enough of that cranking mess when I had a pop-up. Plus, you can get replacement parts for them easily if needed from Ultra Fab.
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10-21-2005, 01:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
Mississauga
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,244
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You guys are all going on about the electric levelers.
How about an 18 volt battery drill with a 3/4 inch socket to raise and lower your manual jacks and the screw jacks on your Hensley(if you have one)?
Then you also have a drill with you for all those other little jobs we all love to do.
Al
ps. I still like the extra head room that a 94 has.
Al
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10-21-2005, 02:16 PM
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Rivet Master
Elgin
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 800
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAl
You guys are all going on about the electric levelers.
How about an 18 volt battery drill with a 3/4 inch socket to raise and lower your manual jacks and the screw jacks on your Hensley(if you have one)?
Then you also have a drill with you for all those other little jobs we all love to do.
Al
ps. I still like the extra head room that a 94 has.
Al
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Yeah, but I'd rather do all that extra bending over at the ice chest, digging out a cold one!
I guess I could use the drill to more quickly facilitate beverage egress from the can vis-a-vis gravity.
I do carry an 18v drill along just as a matter of course.
OK here's one: Keyless entry. We love it, and use it when camping whenever we leave the camper, in case keys are lost, and we keep an extra set of truck and camper keys inside so's not to be stranded. and prompting this expression here --->
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10-24-2005, 06:34 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1994 34' Excella
sundance
, Wyoming
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 5
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Well, We bought the Excella Classic For various reasons -one being it was 1600 miles closer -Mark
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10-24-2005, 06:42 AM
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Just an old timer...
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,766
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That's reason enough! Congrats Mark!
Roger
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havin' to fix my broken Airstreams since 1987...
AIR 2053 Current: 2004 Airstream Interstate "B-Van" T1N DODGE Sprinter
Former Airstreams: 1953 Flying Cloud, 1957 Overlander, 1961 Bambi, 1970 Safari Special, 1978 Argosy Minuet, 1985 325 Moho, 1994 Limited 34' Two-door, 1994 B190 "B-Van"
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12-25-2005, 07:13 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 50
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.................Would a 90-94 Limited come standard with the Auto electric leveling system as part of the limited package ?? thanks , r66
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12-25-2005, 07:45 PM
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Just an old timer...
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,766
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My '94 came with electric jacks, although they're not auto-leveling in the same sense as an HWH motorhome auto leveling system.
Roger
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havin' to fix my broken Airstreams since 1987...
AIR 2053 Current: 2004 Airstream Interstate "B-Van" T1N DODGE Sprinter
Former Airstreams: 1953 Flying Cloud, 1957 Overlander, 1961 Bambi, 1970 Safari Special, 1978 Argosy Minuet, 1985 325 Moho, 1994 Limited 34' Two-door, 1994 B190 "B-Van"
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12-25-2005, 09:55 PM
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Rivet Master
Elgin
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 800
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Also, though Roger and I both have 94's, there are some differences in the jacks - while I believe Roger has one at the tongue for lifting, and one at each corner for stabilizing, the two jacks on the front of mine serve both as tongue lift and stabilizing, while the rear are only for stabilizing. I believe Limiteds back to 1990 were like mine, where newer ones are like his. All have the electric jacks.
and yeah - there's no "auto-leveling" as such. Still need the ol' Lynx Levelers from time to time!
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12-25-2005, 11:12 PM
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Rivet Master
1992 34' Limited
Falls Church
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 945
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Tongue Jack - or not?!
Dave -
Gotta ask a question - you are saying that you DO NOT have a tongue jack at all?? No place for mounting??
I ask since mine is a '92 Classic Limited and it does have a TJ. Believe you said that earlier 34's used the front stabilizing jacks for that function. Not SilverToy.
Although, that might be an interesting item. Are you saying/ implying that the 2 front stabilizing jacks are robust enough to use in place of the TJ? Regularly?? Where might I find out if that is indeed the case?
Might open up and clean up the Tongue area a bit if I were to remove the manual jack that is there now. Ironically, I am considering an electric jack to replace the manual TJ that is there now. Don't really mind the manual one ( haven't done it in the pouring rain yet!) but then can any of us really ever stop fiddling with our Aluminum Pride and Joy?
To me, having a "3 point" stance of stability at the front, along with the rear staibilizers really makes for a terrifically stable and solid feel when parked and all are deployed.
Cheers to you all, and Happy Holidays!
Ciao
Axel
PS - going to Carlsbad Caverns for New Years! Are you far from there?? Am going to stop at Area 51 too! Hope the relatives (aliens! from ?, or Gov't spooks) let me leave again!? ;>)
PPS - Love "The Black" Dave!!! Really sharp rig! Oh, the AS too!
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12-26-2005, 09:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
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While I don't have a Limited. I have seen more than one Limited (but not all of them) without any tongue jack, just the the front "stabilizers". Not sure which years were which way. I have watched a Limited Owner lift the tongue off the ball of his tow vehicle using just the front power "stabilizers".
On those limiteds that had no tongue jack, the mounting holes were still present, but unused. One could therefore easily add a tongue jack if desired. I wonder if your manual tongue jack was added by a previous owner. I can't imagine that a top of the line Limited came from Airstream with a manual tongue jack.
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