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Old 10-19-2016, 11:52 AM   #1
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Question The dreaded "best tire" question...

Hello,

I know how debated the topic is but I need some guidance on tire purchase to avoid spending many hundreds of dollars on the wrong tires. I have researched tires for hours and hours but all the recommendations I have seen so far are for non-Airstream RVs or Airstreamers that are not Full-Timers.



To introduce myself again because I am new to these forums: I am just starting my FT journey with myself, four kids (1-13y), and a cat. The house is sold, truck is purchased, and we are stationary in a hotel in Michigan while getting my new-to-me 1973 27 Overlander safe and ready to tow south for the winter. I am trying to purchase the safest products possible without doing overkill and spending too much money because I am on a fixed income.


My TV is a 2002 F250 7.3L diesel and I have a blue ox swaypro hitch. I do not drive over 65 MPH when not towing so I will definitely not be towing over 65. I will be avoiding snow/freezing temps but seeking national parks/mountains. I plan to put on a lot of miles for the first year or two.
The 10yo tires that came with the trailer are 7.00-15 so I am told I need 225/75 15.



What I do not know is:
I should have bias or radial tires?
ST or LT?
D or E load?
Is there is a better brand for my specific mileage/usage?


Thank you!
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:39 PM   #2
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It looks like I have probably posted this in the wrong area. I was looking for replies specific for full-timing but maybe this wasn't the best approach.
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:59 PM   #3
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Might get better response in the "tire" section. I bet there are hundreds of threads asking the same question.
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:47 PM   #4
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Unless you are filling your trailer with lead, you would do fine with LR-C LT tires or XL (eXtra Load) tires in the 235/75R15 size.

I use and recommend Michelin Defender LTX M/S 235/75R15 XL.

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Lots of people on here run the Michelin P235/75R15 tires but one thing to keep in mind is Michelin does not recommend using that tire on a trailer. My trailer tires of choice are Carlisle radial trail hd. They have worked well for with 0 issues.
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Re: Tires - Nokian Rotiiva AT LT235/75R15 116/113 S

This Nokian LT (Light Truck) tire was recently mentioned in similar tire threads:

Nokian Rotiiva AT LT235/75R15 116/113 S

While there may only be a couple of members using them, perhaps they will add their comments on how these fit, perform and wear on their Airstreams.

Note: These tires appear to be available online through Amazon and Walmart, and may be available locally through other tire centers.
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:29 PM   #7
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I use and recommend Michelin Defender LTX M/S 235/75R15 XL.

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Thank you! After finding the correct forum for tires, lol, I called Discount Tire and canceled my GYM order and told them I wanted these. They tried to talk me out of them for the reason noted below, so Carlisle will be my next choice if the Defenders do not work for any reason. They weren't sure the 235 would fit without first seeing the trailer so I'll be taking it in tomorrow.

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Lots of people on here run the Michelin P235/75R15 tires but one thing to keep in mind is Michelin does not recommend using that tire on a trailer. My trailer tires of choice are Carlisle radial trail hd. They have worked well for with 0 issues.
Thank you! This will be my backup option.
Thanks to everyone for responding to my poorly placed post. I think I'm getting a better handle on how the forums are organized now.
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:31 PM   #8
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This Nokian LT (Light Truck) tire was recently mentioned in similar tire threads:

Nokian Rotiiva AT LT235/75R15 116/113 S

While there may only be a couple of members using them, perhaps they will add their comments on how these fit, perform and wear on their Airstreams.

Note: These tires appear to be available online through Amazon and Walmart, and may be available locally through other tire centers.
Interesting! I will keep this in mind. Thanks!
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While I have no experience with the Nokian Light Truck, Load Range E (80 psi max) tires, I would at least take a look at them; because they have a higher load rating than the Michelin XL (eXtra Load) passenger car tires (50 psi max). Plus, they appear to have a lower price.

Just a suggestion...
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Old 10-20-2016, 01:01 PM   #10
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Stick with tires for a trailer. The construction is different and load capability is greater than a Michelin LT tire. Going 80 mph with a trailer is asking for a disaster to happen. I know what has been written and to me they are WRONG to use an Lt tire on a trailer. The problems you have read about concerning St tires is because the exceeded the max sustainable speed rated for them. They won't admit to it but I have many trailers pass me and I was going 60mph and left me in the dust. If you don't believe me try this. Keep the tires you have and hit the road doing 60. Check out who passes you. Have a safe journey.
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I and many others here have put our trust in the Maxxis brand of 15" ST tires. They cost a little more than GYMs, but have a cleaner history. Unless you are going to a 16" wheel and Michelin LTs, the Maxxis tires seem to be the way to go.
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Stick with tires for a trailer. The construction is different and load capability is greater than a Michelin LT tire. Going 80 mph with a trailer is asking for a disaster to happen. I know what has been written and to me they are WRONG to use an Lt tire on a trailer. The problems you have read about concerning St tires is because the exceeded the max sustainable speed rated for them. They won't admit to it but I have many trailers pass me and I was going 60mph and left me in the dust. If you don't believe me try this. Keep the tires you have and hit the road doing 60. Check out who passes you. Have a safe journey.
Nobody's reccommending 80 mph! And you are wrong on the weight ratings. The LT tires have the same ratings as the ST. Don't confuse LTX mich with their LT tires. LTX are p rated car tires, at least in the 15 inch ones used on AS.
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I and many others here have put our trust in the Maxxis brand of 15" ST tires. They cost a little more than GYMs, but have a cleaner history. Unless you are going to a 16" wheel and Michelin LTs, the Maxxis tires seem to be the way to go.
I think the main reasons GYM's have more problem history is more of them are sold than any other for trailers and also from reading these forums between some of the lines, I am convinced some folks who have had trouble with them have abused them.

I have run GYM's now for over 15 years with no problem at all on our '67 Overlander. I have friends who swear by Maxxis ST's also but they are towing heavier trailers with load range E tires. I run ST tires because they are designed to run on trailers and I frequently have to back the rig into a tight turn which will damage an LT. I ran one set for 13 years with no cracking or uneven wear until the 13th year. If you plan to spend a lot of time in public parks, some of the roads are rough with some really tight turns which are conditions GYM's and other ST's are designed for.
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