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Old 04-14-2016, 04:43 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Noggin View Post
Hi David,
I went out a few minutes ago and put my Sherline Scale in the coupler and it weighed about 990 lbs give or take a few. Last time I had the rig on the CAT scale the trailer weighed 9800 total. It has varied both tongue and axle weight plus 200 lbs on both depending on how much is loaded where and what hitch I had on. The weight today was with the cams and bars of a Reeses hitch but not the stinger which is a very heavy Class V. When I had my Hensley on it, it added about 200 lbs at the hitch.
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Wut's a "CAT scale"?

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Old 04-14-2016, 06:10 PM   #16
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Smart-aleck answer: a scale that weighs cats. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Seriously, it is a scale that over-the-road truckers can use to weigh their rigs so they know how much overweight the rig is. They are located at many truck stops, and there is lots of room around them. Cost is $10-20 for the first weigh, and subsequent weighs (at the same time) are much less. You can get weights for each axle. Triple axle coaches will probably have to do at least two weighs, since I don't think they are set up to handle three axles, but I may be wrong. It has been a while since I took our coach through one.

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Old 04-14-2016, 06:36 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by MelGoddard View Post
Wut's a "CAT scale"?
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Old 04-14-2016, 06:53 PM   #18
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Our 2013 25FB International Serenity literature tongue weight is 833 pounds. With the street side and rear awning dealer installed, a dealer installed 155 watt solar panel, full fresh water and and propane tanks and the Hensley Arrow hitch head installed, the Sherline scale report a 1,150 pound tongue weight. Loaded for camping ands heavy stuff placed under the rear dinette, we had a 1,175 pound tongue weight and the trailer weighed 6,800 pounds out of the 7,300 pound GVW.

After our massive modifications including the four 92 pound lifeline 6ct batteries installed on the tongue in a custom stainless steel enclosure, the 773 pound literature tongue weight of out 2014 Classic with full 40 pound propane tanks a a ProPride hitch head was 1,375 pounds. After replacing the four Lifeline batteries (12Vdc 600 amp-hour 50% of the power usable) and their enclosure with a 168 pound lithium iron phosphate battery (12Vdc 600 amp-hour 90% of battery power useable) installed under the front sofa, the tongue weight is now 1,175 pounds.
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Old 04-14-2016, 07:54 PM   #19
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If you take the Airstream published weight for the particular model you'll be close enough for selecting a truck. Loading will increase the hitch weight and your weight distribution hitch will distribute near that amount among the truck/trailer axles.

If the Airstream has been modified, it may be lighter or heavier than published weight, you need to weigh it. If you load the Airstream heavy in front it will increase hitch weight, if you load it heavy in back it will decrease.

The much harder question to answer is what load you must carry in your truck. The Airstream hitch weight is much more consistent and easier to estimate.

Selecting weight distribution bars, you can estimate your hitch weight, and you must also add the weight carried in the truck's bed behind its rear axle. The w.d. hitch has to lift both.
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Old 04-15-2016, 07:54 AM   #20
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Sean recommended the 1,400 pound bars for the ProPride when we installed it. That was the appropriate rating. The 1,000 pound bars on the Hensley work well with the 968 pounds tongue weight of the 23D.
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I bought my '82 Tri-Axle Excella out of state and to register it in Texas, I had to have it weighed. It totaled out at 7,094 pounds with the original Gaucho couch. I removed the Gaucho and replaced it with two home style recliners that I guess weigh about 75 lbs each. I estimate I have added, at the most, another 600-800 pounds including television, microwave, electronics, one additional battery inside with two on the hitch A-frame, and two 100-watt solar panels and controller, and some clothing and cooking equipment. I'm guessing, and I think fairly accurately, that I'm now running at slightly under 8,000 lbs.

I've been pulling it with my '06 Ram 2500 with 6 liter diesel. I did some test pulling when I got it including the 1,800 mile trip back to Texas with it. I ran with the WD chains in the next to end link and it towed like it wasn't even there.

This past weekend, I went to a meetup with a bunch of friends at a state park and as I was readying to leave, some of my younger friends came over to help me hook up. While I was stowing the water and sewer hose and tidying up the inside for the trip home, they hooked up the WD bars. They all had box trailers so they did what they do on their own rigs and used the third link in the chains. Just giving the hitch area a once-over look, the way it was sitting in a very un-even parking spot, I didn't notice the way they had put the WD bars on.

My 150 mile trip back was interesting to say the least. The blue highways I traveled on to get home aren't the best in Texas and there was a lot of fore-and-aft "diving and swooping" going on. About half-way home, I noticed the remains of my XMRadio antenna cable waving in the breeze down the traffic side of my trailer. It took about 10 miles to find a pull-over and a snip with my knife took care of that. Apparently the antenna itself had parted company with remains of the old analog TV antenna and committed suicide. I did a walk-around and got a real surprise at the rear end. Three rivets had popped and the bottom skin of my sewer hose, electric shoreline compartment was dangling in the breeze with all the contents hanging out below. Another few miles and it have been long gone. A couple of coat hangers and a pair of pliers and I made it home. I backed it down into my long concrete driveway in the pouring rain and said "later for you".

This morning I went out to my garage door and looked past the pouring rain and could see what I couldn't see at the state park. She looked like a humpback whale in my driveway with the hitch area *way* too high. The tires on my back axle must have been taking most of the trailer weight while the front axles got a free ride.

Stuff happens. The XM antenna loss and old rivets wearing out I take in stride. I have lots more of them but I learned a big lesson in unsolicited hooking up help: "Thanks, but I can manage" will be the answer next time my buddies want to help. Maybe I'll let them put the sewer hose away.

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