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04-24-2019, 09:01 PM
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New Member
1975 31' Sovereign
Wilmington
, North Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2019
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Did the shipper damage my 1975 sovereign??
The company I contracted to flatbed my 1975 Sovereign 31’ chose to lift the trailer by the rear bumper with a boom hoist to get it on the flatbed. Now there are large dents and wrinkles in the trailer. I was not there to see it happen, so it’s a he said she said situation. What are the tell-tales signs and evidence I can point to in order to identify the responsible party?
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04-24-2019, 09:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Excella
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Santa Ynez
, California
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Hmm, Get Advise on lifting points from Airstream? but doubt the rear bumper is rated to lift a 31' trailer.
Before pics?
I'm guessing it was popping and oil canning as they put a load on it
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04-24-2019, 09:48 PM
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1991 25' Excella
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Santa Ynez
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04-24-2019, 10:01 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 26' Overlander
CORDOVA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CollierCrew
The company I contracted to flatbed my 1975 Sovereign 31’ chose to lift the trailer by the rear bumper with a boom hoist to get it on the flatbed. Now there are large dents and wrinkles in the trailer. I was not there to see it happen, so it’s a he said she said situation. What are the tell-tales signs and evidence I can point to in order to identify the responsible party?
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There have to be some photos of the rear of the trailer, before it was moved, without the dents in it.......perhaps date stamped photos.......How do you know they lifted it by the bumper?
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04-24-2019, 10:14 PM
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New Member
1975 31' Sovereign
Wilmington
, North Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2019
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I think I attached pics.. before and during...
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04-25-2019, 06:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CollierCrew
The company I contracted to flatbed my 1975 Sovereign 31’ chose to lift the trailer by the rear bumper with a boom hoist to get it on the flatbed. Now there are large dents and wrinkles in the trailer. I was not there to see it happen, so it’s a he said she said situation. What are the tell-tales signs and evidence I can point to in order to identify the responsible party?
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File a claim with the shipper's insurance company. Whoever you contracted with is responsible. Let them sort out which person or vendor is responsible. That is not your problem unless you hired/payed for more than one contractor.
Get estimates from Airstream Inc. You can contact them by phone then send pictures of damaged areas by email.
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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04-25-2019, 07:29 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 23' Flying Cloud
Waterford
, New York
Join Date: Feb 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CollierCrew
The company I contracted to flatbed my 1975 Sovereign 31’ chose to lift the trailer by the rear bumper with a boom hoist to get it on the flatbed. Now there are large dents and wrinkles in the trailer. I was not there to see it happen, so it’s a he said she said situation. What are the tell-tales signs and evidence I can point to in order to identify the responsible party?
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Who did it and how are not your problem as long as you can show it was undamaged when they received it and damaged when you took delivery. File a claim.
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04-25-2019, 08:00 AM
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New Member
1975 31' Sovereign
Wilmington
, North Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2019
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A follow on question: can this all be fixed?
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04-25-2019, 08:28 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Excella
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Santa Ynez
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Of course it can.
Looking at your photo of the strap around the frame-bumper is your bumper skewed like that when at rest(no strap lift)?
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04-25-2019, 08:37 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
Oswego
, Illinois
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That def. oil canned plus IMO there is rear frame damage also. I no about oil canning as I did rt. rear corner on steep driveway entrance. It is a very expensive repair.
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04-25-2019, 08:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CollierCrew
A follow on question: can this all be fixed?
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I only see one dent in your pictures. You describe many dents, though.
Yes, of course it can be fixed. The question is, what is the trailer worth, how much might you get on an insurance claim, and what is the cost of repair? If you have several dents like the one shown in the picture, I can guarantee that it will be totaled as the cost of professional repairs will be in the thousands.
But to answer your original question, yes, the shipper definitely damaged your trailer. Your challenge is proving it. Only before and after pictures can help you do this.
good luck!
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04-25-2019, 09:54 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
1954 22' Flying Cloud
2017 30' Classic
Currently Looking...
Ojai
, CA
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Get a quote for repairs from Airstream Inc or Airstream dealer. The trailer will most likely be totaled because you cannot lift it in the manner in the pics and I am sure the frame is bent. Get a reputable appraiser to establish a pre damage value for trailer and ask for payment from the moving company. Give me a call if you would like to discuss
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04-25-2019, 03:15 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
almena
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Damaged Freight!
Well....I do not believe that the frame is bent but it did flex in a way it was never intended to which caused the rigid shell to buckle as it. It is definitely the fault of the trucking company. Travel trailers of all kinds are shipped by the hundreds every week but on a different kind of trailer. The one pictured is a stepdeck with ramps. These are meant to load equipment such as tractors with high clearance or tracked equipment such as a small dozer or excavator. A proper trailer is made just for this purpose. All travel trailers need to winched onto the trailer or backed onto it with a small tractor. This is the ONLY way they do it in Indiana where most are made.
Been in trucking most of my life and have dealt with many freight claims and the trucking company usually loses. This here should be easily proven!!! Get on the trucking company ASAP!!!! If they are uncooperative just google the trucking co. and all their info will come up somewhere including the insurance company. All of it is published per FED DOT Regs. Good Luck!!!!!!
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04-27-2019, 08:43 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 26' Overlander
CORDOVA
, TN
Join Date: Apr 2018
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you have all you need. Call a lawyer. They will have to fix your Airstream, unless they have no insurance, in which case you have to sue them....Either way, get a lawyer. Very expensive repairs.
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