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01-22-2004, 06:31 AM
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Argosy vs. Airstream-sinks and appliances
Is it true that Argosy trailers have enamel sinks and no stove top cover and Airstreams have stainless steel sinks and stoves with a stainless steel top cover?
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01-22-2004, 06:51 AM
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Argosy vs. Airstream-sinks and appliances
Greetings Rick!
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Is it true that Argosy trailers have enamel sinks and no stove top cover and Airstreams have stainless steel sinks and stoves with a stainless steel top cover?
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The answer to your question is that it depends upon model, model year, trim level, and options selected by the original owner. I have known my '64 Overlander since it was new, and the Minuet was one owner and I purchased it directly from the original owner. Neither of these trailers came equipped with any kind of stove top cover while both have double bowl stainless steel sinks. The Overlander even has the International package so the folding stove top cover must have been an option if it were even available that year (it wasn't shown in the factory sales literature that I have).
Kevin
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01-22-2004, 07:02 AM
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Hello, Kevin
I didn't know that a choice of sink finish or stove top was an option for Airstream or Argosy. I learned something new today. Thank you for that.
Rick
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01-22-2004, 07:47 AM
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All 4 of my 70's vintage (2 Airstream's 2 Argosy's) have had the same double bowl stainless steel sink. The Airstream's and the 76 Argosy all had Moen cartridge single handle faucets. The 78 Argosy had the 2 handle style like was in the 60's Airstream's. I have noticed on the smaller trailers where there was less room (in the 70's vintages) they seemed to use an enameled sink. It may have been a situation of using what was available that fit the space allotted. The 65 Safari I redid had a single bowl enamel sink.
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01-22-2004, 08:04 AM
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Hello, Brett
This thread seems to point to the endless variety of choices!
My '73 31' International had the double stainless sink and matching stainless stove top cover.
My '73 Argosy 20' has the double enamel sink and no stove top cover.
P.S. I don't have a bathroom door, but I do have a curtain.
Rick
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01-22-2004, 10:08 AM
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Options, options...
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Originally posted by Rick Alston
Hello, Brett
This thread seems to point to the endless variety of choices!
My '73 31' International had the double stainless sink and matching stainless stove top cover.
My '73 Argosy 20' has the double enamel sink and no stove top cover.
P.S. I don't have a bathroom door, but I do have a curtain.
Rick
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And on our '72 Argosy 20', we have an enameled two-holer sink, and enameled stove with no cover, but we have a bathroom door.
Terry
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01-22-2004, 11:23 AM
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Show off!
'Roughing it' is camping in your Argosy without a bath door. Just kidding, of course.
I bought the unit last fall and am in the process of restoring it before going "live". Say, any idea as to how to get the aluminum extrusion piece off so I can mount the door? I find it impossible to reach the curbside end of the piece, so wonder if you have any suggestions.
Rick
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01-22-2004, 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by Rick Alston
Show off!
'Roughing it' is camping in your Argosy without a bath door. Just kidding, of course.
I bought the unit last fall and am in the process of restoring it before going "live". Say, any idea as to how to get the aluminum extrusion piece off so I can mount the door? I find it impossible to reach the curbside end of the piece, so wonder if you have any suggestions.
Rick
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Outside door, or bath door?
I will look when I go to the farm and visit it, and let you know.
Also, I can take a few pics, and send them to you, if you would like. I just need to know which door? I assume bath door, but you know what happens when you assume...
Terry
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01-22-2004, 11:57 AM
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Terry
I am referring to the bathroom sliding door that separates the bath from the cabin, or rest of the unit. I don't have one.
I see way no to get my arm into the door pocket (space between the wall and the shower) to reach the end of the extrusion piece (that acts as the top rail) and unscrew the curbside screw. It looks like the unit never had a door because there is no evidence of a removal effort such as one would find after drilling out the pop rivets to release the streetside end of the extrusion piece. Also, the curtain that functions as a door, was installed by a 'pro' complete with rv style track and hanger assembly with the screws mounted behind the plywood laminate header so the screws are not visable from the cabin!. Nice!! I wonder if the factory delivered the unit sans the door.
Rick
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01-22-2004, 12:23 PM
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Bathroom door
It looks like the track for the door was installed, then the door, then the bottom track was installed last. You may have to drill out the rivets or screws that hold your extrusion piece on, then do what was done with mine:
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01-22-2004, 12:24 PM
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And the bottom:
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01-22-2004, 12:25 PM
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Looks like mine was screwed/riveted on:
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01-22-2004, 12:36 PM
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Great picture of the bathroom sliding door.
Here is the problem - the sliding door must be mounted to the extrusion piece first and then the extrusion is screwed into place.
To remove the extrusion piece, I've first got to reach the cubside screw, but I can't get my arm into the door pocket. If I could, then I would drill out the pop rivets on the streetside support holder (like the support holder for the ends of a closet pole), remove the remaining two screws in the center of the extrusion and rotate the streetside end of the extrusion backward towards the rear window and to the left and presto, the extrusion and the door are free.
I simply can't reach the rightside screw.
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01-22-2004, 12:44 PM
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Shower wall
You may have to pull back the shower wall to get at it. I haven't had to do this on mine (yet), have you looked at the threads over on the interior restoration part of the forum? They may have some ideas there, at least now you see how mine is, if you can't see in the pics, there seem to be wooden spacers between the galley wall and the shower wall, so mine may have not had a door at the beginning of its life either.
Terry
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01-22-2004, 02:50 PM
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Here is the bad news.................
All Airstreams are assembled from rear to front. Meaning the bathroom went in first, then the back wall then the overheads, etc.
This is why you are having a hard time getting to the screws. I tried to ix the doors in my 76 MH but was unable to get to the mounting points either so I left it be. The door was a bit stiff, but we were able to get it to open and close. The door itself hung on a slider like a pocket door. If the door was removed from the slider then it could have been tilted out. Look for holes in the top of the track. There were screws that went through the slider/hanger into the top of the door itself. The holes if you find them would be a sign that the door was removed. Airstream did not leave holes for adjustment. This is what the trouble was with ours. The door had worked a bit loose and was hanging down too far.
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