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Old 04-16-2018, 11:08 AM   #281
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The thread may be stupid (depending on your point of view) but I don't think it is about leveling a trailer.
That was two separate thoughts. Thatís why I put a space between them.
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:00 PM   #282
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I would have just rattle canned them black and played dumb if someone asked what brand they were if someone asked and I didn't feel like advertising for Andersen.
This solution also retains the exposure to liability for Andersen. (He's already made his money on existing product.)

I wonder.... could one sue him for "loss of prestige"...
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:45 PM   #283
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So, anyone up on patent law? Is it possible that there is only an appearance patent and the black color gets around it. The next question is, who owns the patent and who is paying a license. And the elephant might well be, is there a patent.

Like the paint them black solution. Like the idea of branding them with the Defacer2018 logo and circle/slash. Find the recycle approach is quite effective and appropriate to flush the flawed relationship. Pat

Edit - interesting - https://patents.google.com/patent/US...hicle+levelers
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:54 PM   #284
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Clearly a Lanham Act violation. We could start a class action for defacing a National Trademark.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:30 PM   #285
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What exactly would be the trademark? The arch itself? Is there a TM symbol on the arch registering it as a trademark?

Under what legal theory would there be a violation of the Lanham Act here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanham_Act

Where does the act cover "defacing" anything?



Thanks, maybe I am missing something.

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Old 04-16-2018, 04:37 PM   #286
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Maybe time to quit trolling this. I prefer airstream info. Oh well
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:21 PM   #287
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-- snip --maybe I am missing something. -- snip --
Yep, but that tongue placed firmly in the cheek is a bit difficult to see when blinded by Defacer2018's actions. I missed it too, the first time through. Pat
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Old 04-16-2018, 06:37 PM   #288
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Yep, but that tongue placed firmly in the cheek is a bit difficult to see when blinded by Defacer2018's actions. I missed it too, the first time through. Pat
Maybe it was tongue-in-cheek when I wrote it.

But why doesn't the National Park Service, the BLM, your state, or the Federal Government place copyrights on our national treasures?

It could provide a method for civil action and damages against a defacer.

Would some lawyer provide an opinion?
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My my what a vindictive bunch. I have never defaced a national landmark but have certainly done my share of stupid things in my life. I certainly think he should be punished but I won't be the one to cast the first stone at him.
YMMV
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:18 PM   #290
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-- snip -- But why doesn't the National Park Service, the BLM, your state, or the Federal Government place copyrights on our national treasures? -- snip --
Your thought is not new, but there was an unintended consequence, which is quite frustrating. The NP contracts, at least at Yosemite NP, passed the rights to the names of lodges and similar facilities to the managing vendor when those functions were outsourced. There was legal action to reverse the contract, but in the near term the names in the Yosemite park were changed when the managing vendor was replaced so they would have no basis for damage claims from the use of the traditional names. So, there are some trademarks. It's just not everything on public lands and in at least one case, ownership proved more difficult that anyone would imagine. Pat
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My my what a vindictive bunch. I have never defaced a national landmark but have certainly done my share of stupid things in my life. I certainly think he should be punished but I won't be the one to cast the first stone at him.
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I fall into the same category as you and I agree with you.
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Vengeance really should be left to the Lord, so I am glad I don't have the man's home address.

But I confess I probably watch Dr. Phil at least once a week. (A local station airs it at 7 AM and 5 PM so while waking up to a cuppa coffee, it's easy to watch cause I don't have to drive thru rush hour - retired!) If I didn't already know it, the show has reaffirmed that people persist in stupid behavior - because they never realize there are better alternatives and/or actually believe that what they are doing is right. 30 year old "children" mooching off parents, siblings, grands, etc. Women and men staying in abusive relationships. Parents who beat, starve and imprison their children... get caught and simply can't understand what all the fuss is about. It is all so much more common than we realize.
And - duh! So much easier to see when others are doing it instead of saying, am I like that?..........
Ah, the good old days.
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:31 AM   #293
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Iím OK with that, as long as all laws are strictly enforced. That means photo radar and a transponder in every car.

Partial sarcasm, but be careful what you wish for.
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:00 AM   #294
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I won't be the one to cast the first stone at him.
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As post #290, don't worry about that.
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