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Old 10-26-2006, 07:31 PM   #1
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Airstream announces:

Larry Huddle announced today thru RV Business, that Airstream will no longer offer the "Westfalia Sprinter Van" that is made in Germany which Airstream imports and upfits electrical and plumbing to code, and adds a generator for the U.S market. Huddle stated some 240 units have been sold up to this point, with 39 remaining in the pipeline.
Mr. Huddle said Airstream will continure to build on the Sprinter chassis the "Interstate" and "Parkview" models.
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Old 10-26-2006, 08:30 PM   #2
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no kiddin!!

I think anyone who has visited an AS dealer could have called this decision. Still selling 2005s at deep discounts was a clue!

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Old 10-27-2006, 02:02 PM   #3
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Our local dealer wanted full sticker price. That was the deal killer for us.
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:13 PM   #4
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This thread makes me think that Airstream has made some peculiar business decisions in the past. On a recent long trip I lost track of the 5th wheelers I met and wondered why Airstream never built any of those. The Westfalia package probably appeals to someone who owns a sailboat. --Not that this is intended to knock sailboat owners, I used to own one myself...
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This thread makes me think that Airstream has made some peculiar business decisions in the past. On a recent long trip I lost track of the 5th wheelers I met and wondered why Airstream never built any of those. The Westfalia package probably appeals to someone who owns a sailboat. --Not that this is intended to knock sailboat owners, I used to own one myself...
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They did a while back. There were a couple of different models but the most prevalent one was called the Integrity by Airstream. Very nice well built high end models, similar in quality to the Travel Supreme and Holiday Rambler Presidential series. They also made one under the Argosy name plate back when they were playing with the Squarestreams. Personally I think Airstream should stick to the basics of the aluminum trailers and work to improve overall product quality. When you try to do too many things something is going to suffer.

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Old 10-27-2006, 03:22 PM   #6
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Well it makes sense if you look at the RV market right now. Motorized continues to be off projections (Airstream killed their "A" lines last year and halted development of the new Classic Motorhome) and their Westy Sprinter units are very expensive and a little "akward" from a floorplan perspective when compared to competing units like the Winnie View and some Gulfstream models.

Combine this with a backlog for their "iconic" trailers and it is a good decision. I would not be surprised to see the other Sprinter go as alternatives continue to hit the market.
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I just hope this doesn't mean rough times in general at Airstream. I would have liked to see the Classic Motorhome come back even though that was not what I was interested in purchasing for myself at this juncture in my life.
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I just hope this doesn't mean rough times in general at Airstream. I would have liked to see the Classic Motorhome come back even though that was not what I was interested in purchasing for myself at this juncture in my life.
I agree! I was lookking forward to buying one of the "new" classics...in about 10 years when I might be able to afford a used one.

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I agree! I was lookking forward to buying one of the "new" classics...in about 10 years when I might be able to afford a used one.

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I could see maybe a nice used "new" classic diesel pusher in about 10 years, too. But I certainly couldn't drop the price I have seen speculated for a "new" classic now. But they would have been nice looking.
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I was talking to a dealer a few weeks back about Airstreams in general. He had some very interesting things to say about the product. He is NOT an Airstream dealer anymore. He sold airstreams untill this year. He has been in the RV business for 40 years. His opinion is that Airstreams about to make some changes in the Upper managment. Many are about to retire who controll the business. Air stream sales are suffering because of more and more quality issues. In general they don't have the amenities that other trailers have for much less price. HE thinks the company needs a shot in the arm. More innovative people. They are priceing themselves out of business NOT because they are too exspensive but because for the price the qualility is less than some manufactures. He quit selling airstreams because He was getting pressure from dealers in the reagion. He was undercutting them in cost. A couple of years ago He was the Largest volume Lance camper dealer in the united states. HE showed me the award from Lance to prove it.
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I'm sure $3+/gallon also aren't doing wonders for the RV market in general.

I do agree with the QC comments fully!
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We were blessed with high quality in the 30' Safari we purchased in May. I don't know if its production date of February had anything to do with it, but many on this forum feel that the first two months of the calendar year are slow and quality can be higher as a result. I don't know if it is true, but we did get a great unit. We had wanted a Special Edition 30' Bunk, but unfortunately Airstream never offered this plan in the SE before killing the model. I think that's a shame because the Safari SE's are reported to be their top selling units. My issue with Airstream is that they just don't offer enough family friendly units.

My Airstream dealer told me that Airstream is getting ready to introduce a line similar to the Argosy concept within the next couple of years with the intention of being an entry line for younger families that aren't willing or can't afford to pay $50K for an Airstream Safari SE. Hopefully, they will take a look at what the SOB's are selling most and incorporate those ideas into the Airstream monocoque design. If they try to introduce a "squarestream" again, I don't think it will be successful. I think even the yuppies among us want a recognizable Airstream product not just a name plastered on a white box or even a gray box.

Slide-outs are nice in the Airstream, but they seem to be heavy and add a great deal to the price, or at least they are reserved for the larger, more expensive units so I don't know if that is the answer, but I would like to see some inovation that is a real Airstream with the comforts that Airstream is known for even if it winds up being a painted Airstream like the Argosy was.
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Old 11-15-2006, 08:40 AM   #13
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i think they are on the right track with the vintage/winick bambi. that's the biggest appeal of the airstream, the classic americana dream. it's a shame they can't do it for 2/3 of what the vintage one is selling for. if it was mainstream produced, and not a limited run, the numbers might work, who knows. i applaud the basecamp as well, though it's not really my cup of tea. it does appeal to the younger market, and it does show innovative thinking. every other travel trailer on the market looks the same. i can't stand em. they may slide out to the size of a small NY flat, but we go camping to spend time outdoors.

i do agree with keeping the quality up. i've never owned a new one, but have read numerous posts here about low QC issues.

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... My issue with Airstream is that they just don't offer enough family friendly units...
Bingo...but I don't know if that'll ever change. Really, these trailers have always been meant for well-monied empty nesters or otherwise childless couples, who like to travel for the sake of travel. A "tube" simply doesn't lend itself to stacking bunks like a "cube" does. I bet the market research shows that people who can afford this kind of trailer, and have kids, don't want to travel this way. They'll just fly to Disney, thankyou. They have the $$$...but not the time to hook up and meander across the country. The destination is more important than the journey.

and just because you want to call it a "six sleeper", that doesn't really mean it is. You can also call a 42" pull-out couch a "double" until you're blue in the face; that doesn't make it so.
Now, maybe they could make these tubular trailers more family-friendly...we've seen some very clever mods made by some very capable people here. but they are the exception that proves the rule.
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