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Old 07-09-2017, 01:44 PM   #15
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Instead of installing everything electrical under the sun, just in case you need it, may I make another suggestion? If you design your electrical runs to be modular, you can do all of the wiring now, when it's easy. So you would be going from junction box to junction box, with both 12V and 110V. Lay in nylon strings between areas, in case you need to pull more wire. I've got wires for solar installed, but no plans to ever use them, as we mostly do campgrounds down here in Florida. Maybe lay in some conduit? Or leave areas behind cabinets easily accessible, so that you can add goodies at later dates.

At least with me, I've had any number of perfectly great ideas that upon further reflection, turned out to be stupid. Designing systems with this in mind, that can be easily changed out, has made me a much happier camper!
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Old 07-09-2017, 07:51 PM   #16
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Keep up the good work. Hate to hear about your accident, but maybe it will all heal okay.
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Old 07-09-2017, 11:33 PM   #17
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Instead of installing everything electrical under the sun, just in case you need it, may I make another suggestion? If you design your electrical runs to be modular, you can do all of the wiring now, when it's easy. So you would be going from junction box to junction box, with both 12V and 110V. Lay in nylon strings between areas, in case you need to pull more wire. I've got wires for solar installed, but no plans to ever use them, as we mostly do campgrounds down here in Florida. Maybe lay in some conduit? Or leave areas behind cabinets easily accessible, so that you can add goodies at later dates.

At least with me, I've had any number of perfectly great ideas that upon further reflection, turned out to be stupid. Designing systems with this in mind, that can be easily changed out, has made me a much happier camper!
Thanks SuzyH
You make some good points. I do believe I'll be using solar more and more so I think I might as well install what I need and expand from there.
I've always thought adding some conduit around the walls would be a good call with tees coming off in logical places to pull wires in the future.
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Old 07-09-2017, 11:40 PM   #18
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Keep up the good work. Hate to hear about your accident, but maybe it will all heal okay.
It will heal just fine, thanks for your concern. The biggest bummer, besides the broken ankle, is lost time on this project. I had the time all lined up and dialed in to go at it hardcore, day and night and then it's a major set back.
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Old 07-22-2017, 10:41 AM   #19
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I have most every thing I need for my trailer Reno except the electrical system which I'm still debating my direction.

If your Canadian you might be interested in this service, Montana Shipping Outlet. I have various items sitting there waiting for pick up. Shipping from the US to Canada is expensive, and most items shipped in the US are shipped for free these days. Saves on shipping and any brokerage fees. You can ship any thing there, they hold it until you drive down, pick up and cross the border.
http://www.montanashipping.com

Waiting for pick up I have, axles ( from Inland), Sendel wheels, window & door trim/hardware, Precision tankless water heater, front window rock guard and LED replacement exterior lights. So a trip to Sweetgrass Montana coming up.

Ordered my Michelins LT225/75R16 from Costco.
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Old 07-22-2017, 10:45 AM   #20
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Now if my ankle wasn't broken I could get to work. Four more weeks in a non-weight bearing cast aughhhh. Here's my upgraded stainless install:
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:12 AM   #21
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Collectively as a group we should fix and simplify the ordering of axles so we are not hostage to the 'axle' experts on the east coast and west coast and their terrrible customer service. It can be daunting to order by yourself locally from non airstream axle dealers.

There should be a spread sheet or some sticky post with the Airstream years, sizes and weights and all the axles specs. From there anyone could go to the local or closest distributor of Dexter axles and order with confidence.

How many more years and dozens upon dozens of threads on axle ordering and debates on where and how to order axles should we deal with before it's fixed?

All the knowledge is here, let's get some thing going. I'm sure there is someone who reads this saying yes I could do that easily...
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:59 PM   #22
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Hey, Monza:

Great thread! I too am renovating a 1972 Tradewind, though mine was the rear-twin version. I'm keen to see what you are doing.

I began my shell-off demo in 2013, but only recently found the time to really gain some progress. Currently, I'm through with frame reinforcements, POR-15 treatment, and sub-floor reinstallation. I will be ordering my axles from Rockwell American, which has a store just around the corner from me in Texas. I should have the shell back on it by the end of this week.

I haven't made a build-thread for mine, but I might have to soon, since I've taken thousands of pictures of everything.

Nice choice of new appliances you've chosen for yours...I will do something similar with the AC/DC refrigerator, though I am leaning to the Isotherm Cruise 200, which I think might be kinda unique and cool.

I have considered converting mine to rear-bed and central bath, though the windows are causing a little difficulty there...so I might just do something like your original layout. Are you planning any big changes in that regard?

Good luck...and thanks for documenting your build!

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Old 07-25-2017, 07:47 AM   #23
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Very cool "play by play" commentary. I'm not sure I'll be doing the full monty resto, but I have very similar obstacles to overcome. I'll be following.
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Old 07-25-2017, 12:01 PM   #24
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You did a heck of a job on that ankle! Are those pop rivets?? LOL!!
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Old 07-25-2017, 01:29 PM   #25
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Hey, Monza:

Great thread! I too am renovating a 1972 Tradewind, though mine was the rear-twin version. I'm keen to see what you are doing.

I began my shell-off demo in 2013, but only recently found the time to really gain some progress. Currently, I'm through with frame reinforcements, POR-15 treatment, and sub-floor reinstallation. I will be ordering my axles from Rockwell American, which has a store just around the corner from me in Texas. I should have the shell back on it by the end of this week.

I haven't made a build-thread for mine, but I might have to soon, since I've taken thousands of pictures of everything.

Nice choice of new appliances you've chosen for yours...I will do something similar with the AC/DC refrigerator, though I am leaning to the Isotherm Cruise 200, which I think might be kinda unique and cool.

I have considered converting mine to rear-bed and central bath, though the windows are causing a little difficulty there...so I might just do something like your original layout. Are you planning any big changes in that regard?

Good luck...and thanks for documenting your build!

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Hey Jay

That fridge your looking at is super nice as well. Mine looks really well build and is a nice looking unit, I'd suggest you look at them as well.

Your ahead of me on your build for sure, you should start a thread and document it for sure. I'm keen to get my frame work going, my welder refuses to help me until I'm out of my cast.

I'm changing to a mid bath, queen in the rear, and a table gaucho/ sleeping unit up front. I'll try and get my floor plan more presentable and post it. I've already bought some fancy marine telescoping post for the gaucho. The windows with my plan don't really pose a problem, I'll have window in the bathroom which is fine.

Good luck with you build and thanks for visiting mine. Soon- hopefully I can get updating again. Might tackle the windows while I'm handicapped, we'll see...
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Very cool "play by play" commentary. I'm not sure I'll be doing the full monty resto, but I have very similar obstacles to overcome. I'll be following.


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You did a heck of a job on that ankle! Are those pop rivets?? LOL!!
Hey hbf442

Thanks for the comments. I guess they do make stainless pop rivets... ha.

I can't imagine not doing a full Monty on my '72 after seeing all the grossness in the walls and belly pan. I'm sure I'll have a few belly pan surprises still waiting for me.

I checked out your thread and that's a good looking Airstream, good luck fixing her up! Keep us all updated with what you do.
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:52 PM   #27
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Popping the top off. Please excuse the ghetto gantries.

The rear had a little rust surprising thing is the floor held the rotted rear up, with not much sag. When I cut that hanger bolt it was a different story.
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:58 PM   #28
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Off with the wood and off to the sand blaster...
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