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12-30-2003, 07:01 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 118
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1st Major Road Trip
Well, it's been a long time coming, but in one month I'll be heading out from San Diego to South Padre Island, Texas.
Any hints on what a non-mechanical person should bring besides a credit card, AAA membership and a cell phone?
I have new tires, breakaway switch, Prodigy brake controller, bearings packed, W/D hitch, friction anti sway bar(still in the box).
I'm not going to make a marathon out of this and plan on stopping around 4 in the afternoon, and early starts in the mornings. Any hints on places to stop for the night? I see KOA's on the way, but all I really need is a safe place to sleep. Being a solo woman should I look for them (KOA)?
I'll be heading on the I-8 to the 10. I'll probably do some sightseeing on the way back.
Any hints, clues, ideas, dire warnings would be appreciated.
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12-30-2003, 07:22 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,718
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1st Major Road Trip
Greetings Diana!
As a Free Wheeler, I always look for a commercial campground when traveling. My preference for overnight stops for the past 25 years has been KOA - - not always the quietest places to stay, but I have yet to feel insecure when camped at a KOA - - wish that I could say that about some of the other commercial campgrounds that I have visitied.
Your prepartions appear to be progressing well. If you haven't already done so, I would suggest carrying at least two campground directories - - I usually carry the Trailer Life Directory as well as Woodalls - - there is some overlap, but there are also unique entries in each of the directories.
Enjoy your adventure!
Kevin
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Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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12-30-2003, 11:12 AM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,921
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Good luck in your travels
I was looking at your photos and you have done a lot of nice work to your trailer. I hope your trip works out well for you.
I was thinking of an extended trip next year as well and wondered how many vintage owners actually make these long journeys.
Be sure and post back how your trip went.
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12-30-2003, 11:34 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,718
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1st Major Road Trip
Greetings Safari Tim!
Quote:
I was thinking of an extended trip next year as well and wondered how many vintage owners actually make these long journeys.
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There are a number of us with Vintage coaches who have traveled extensively with minimal trouble. My '64 has been my travel vehicle for a number of summers, and it has not been uncommon to be traveling for six or more weeks covering 8,000 miles or more. My summer travel plans with the Minuet include a trip to Alaska - - probably in excess of 9,500 miles and several weeks of travel time. Pre-planning is helpful as is a very thorough check-up for running gear and appliances. The major expense in preparing the Minuet was a new axle.
Don't let the age of your Airstream be any kind of deterrent to its enjoyment. With proper maintenance, your Vintage coach can be every bit as dependable as a late model coach.
Every summer, there are Vintage coaches from all over the US and from most of the Canadian provinces at the WBCCI International Rally. There are any number of owners who travel many thousands of miles each year with their Vintage coaches. I have actually enjoyed traveling with my Vintage coach more than with my later model brand X coaches of the past.
Kevin
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WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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12-30-2003, 11:38 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1968 17' Caravel
2005 30' Safari
Somewhere
, roaming America
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,095
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Hey Tim, I'm about to depart Vermont for Florida in a few days (1500 miles). I think there are a lot of vintage owners who make long journeys.
My first night will have to be in a commercial campground because I'll need electric for my little space heater. (I don't use the catalytic heater while sleeping.) But after that I'll probably just do the Wal-Mart thing, since I'm only passing through and won't be using the amenities of a campground.
It will be interesting to see at what latitude I can de-winterize and begin using the plumbing!
-- RL
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12-30-2003, 12:01 PM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,921
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Sounds great.
That's good to hear.
I think my trailer is up to the task. I have put on new tires, had the bearings packed and breaks checked this year and all is good.
I upgraded my to vehicle this year as well.
Over the last couple of years I put in a new fridge, new A/C, new plumbing supply lines and a new water heater.
I have really been toying with the idea of going from CA to Disneyworld.
How long does a drive like that take without killing yourself. We have a 13 year old and a 2 year old to take with us. Santa brought them a portable DVD player for use in the truck! Another road trip preperation!
Also, how do us non grey tankers handle walmart overnight stays?
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12-30-2003, 12:18 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,718
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1st Major Road Trip
Greetings Safari Tim!
While I am a Free Wheeler, I often caravan with friends who have young children. We usually plan on stopping about once every two to three hours for a rest break. Typically on such excursions, we travel five to seven hours in a day. If the terrirtory is familiar, the travel day may be extended or if we have pre-planned reservations for campground accommodations.
We always utilize campgrounds - - commercial, state park, or National Parks - - so I can't provide much input regarding your question about Wal Marting. Even using campgrounds, we often find it necessary to use our blue tanks as many of the older parks have very limited sites with sewer connections.
Good luck with your plans!
Kevin
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Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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12-30-2003, 12:42 PM
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Moderator
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,255
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Our little trailer has been to Alaska and across the country and back a few times as I understand it, all with the previous owner. I am planning a trip to Oklahoma next year, which will be our biggest trip yet, and I have to say I haven't really thought at all about the trailer giving us any trouble. I've done the wheel bearings and the tires are new, and the propane has been inspected for leaks, so I expect everything else will be fine. As long as it's able to roll along behind us, nothing else will be that big a deal.
I highly recommend if you don't have one you should get a good tool kit with an assortment of screwdrivers, adjustable wrenches, and electrical repair bits, just in case you need them. I also have plumbers tape, and some JB weld (you never know when you might need it). I have already found the screwdrivers and wrenches to come in handy on our short trips. Don't forget the duct tape! You probably won't need any of it, but just in case you need to play MacGyver halfway through your trip you'll have something to work with
Personally, we prefer to stay in a campgrouns as opposed to staying in a Walmart. It's only $20 or so, and we would have spent more than that in a hotel, so it's still a good deal. And it just feels safer to me. I don't even care much for stopping in a highway rest area for dinner, I'm watching out the windows the whole time. I'm sure I wouldn't be comfortable by ourselves in a parking lot. But that's just me.
Enjoy the trip!
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12-30-2003, 12:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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Ca to Disneyworld?
Are you saying Disney in CA or FL? If I assume the San Fran area - an easy 10-12 hour trip via I 5 (Boring for kids) with the trailer. Better would be a two day coast trip. I used to live in Irvine. I'd camp either on the beach up north a bit, or down in Newport at the back bay (much closer). Lots of stuff for the kids to see in Newport (plus shopping at Fashion Island for the parents).
Florida? No idea! I did drive across I 90 -80 from WA to NJ in 5 1/2 grueling solo days last May. I'd not do this with kids - even with a DVD player in less then 2 weeks. I wish I had more time to muck around in the stopping areas. It'd be much more interesting to check out the local flavor - although some areas, 5 minutes was more then enough local flavor for me!!
Marc
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12-30-2003, 02:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,319
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South Padre Island, TX.
Diana,
I sent you a pm but thought I would also post some of my comments here. I could not remember if a Globetrotter is a single axle or double but would check to see if your Tahoe lug wrench fits the lugs on your trailer. If so then that helps because you can use the jack from the vehicle. If single axle, I would probably take along a spare tire. ST trailer tires are not always easy to find during the night, even with AAA. I'd also carry a volt meter to check operating systems. They are relatively inexpensive if you don't have one currently. A good flashlight like the 4 cell C cell Maglite does double duty to provide light as well as a head knocker should it become necessary. Detailed maps are available of the beaches and recommended.
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AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
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12-31-2003, 05:57 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 29' Sovereign
Savannah
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2002
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My thoughts
3Ms75Argosy
It's easy to remember it this way`
Disneyworld is in FL..
Disneyland is in CA..
ciao
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12-31-2003, 10:01 AM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,319
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Diana,
I forgot to mention that Camping World sells several books that list what you can find at each exit along the way. One book is entitled "The Next Exit". Gas stations, Truck Centers, repair facilities, Welcome Centers, all restaurants, motels (who needs 'em), Wal-Marts, banks, cleaners, U-Haul centers, cinemas, malls, hospitals, etc. Another book, Rest Area Guide, shows some of the same stuff but also mentions what facilities are available for each Welcome Center such as picnic tables, modern restrooms, drinking water, outside night lights, handicapped facilities, public phone, RV dump station, etc. I bought both books for my trip out to AZ. to pick up my Airstream and tow it back to TN. I stayed at truck stops and rest areas. Do a search on this forum for rest stops and you will find a link to State laws regarding how long you can stay at a rest stop. Some do not allow overnight stays, some allow a certain # of hours and others could care less. I printed it off and carried it with me on the trip to be sure. Some rest areas are really fancy with plenty of light during the night. I would avoid such a place if lighting wasn't abundant. Some truck stops can be really noisy but one I stayed at had a parking area away from the pumps. It wouldn't have made a difference to me because I had driven from Tullahoma, TN. to Amarillo, TX. by myself and I was ready to stretch out on the truck seat to pass out.
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AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
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12-31-2003, 11:03 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 118
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Thanks, Craig!
I did get your PM, but I'm still busy with the holiday travelers and don't have much time to respond for another few days. I have questions about the weather on the gulf coast this time of year, but I'll get to you privately on that.
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12-31-2003, 11:16 AM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,319
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Diana,
My sister lives in Corpus Christi and works for the PD there. If she can be of any help weatherwise or any other way, let me know.
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AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
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01-07-2004, 09:09 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1968 17' Caravel
2005 30' Safari
Somewhere
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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Just completed a 1500 mile tow with my vintage trailer yesterday. Yep, 38 years old and she's still got what it takes!
Only one problem: on I-95 in South Carolina, a section of the underbelly skin let loose and dragged on the ground. Turns out the rivets and holes holding the leading edge of the aluminum were in less than ideal shape. A considerable length of the belly skin "unzipped" down the center rivet line.
Fortunately, I had the rivet gun packed and was able to rig up a temporary repair at the next exit that lasted 400 additional miles. (If I hadn't had the rivet gun, I would have tried duct tape!)
The only other issue is just plain dirt. The entire trailer is filthy with northeast road gunk. Needs a good scrubbing at the car wash.
And now, the reward: I see the high temperature for tomorrow at my home is forecast to be zero to five below. But I'm in Florida now enjoying a balmy 70 degrees and sunshine -- so it was worth it!
-- RL
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01-07-2004, 09:17 PM
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Moderator
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,255
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Good for you, Rich! Glad to hear she made it ok, I knew the old girl had it in her. Scary little surprise you had on the road though. How did you know - did you see sparks or hear it or something? Good fix though. I'm going to go add a rivet gun and rivets to my toolbox in the trailer. It seems so obvious, I don't know why I hadn't thought of that yet!
And I'm oh-so-jealous of that Florida weather! We are snowed/iced in up here! Enjoy!
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01-08-2004, 11:29 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Fortunately, I had the rivet gun packed and was able to rig up a temporary repair at the next exit that lasted 400 additional miles. (If I hadn't had the rivet gun, I would have tried duct tape!)
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Just so yall know-duct tape dosent work on Caravel belly skin!
We had the exact same thing happen a few months ago on our trip to Santa Fe (3000 mi. total) We were about 400 miles into the trip when we heard a loud noise and had to pull over. Duct tape was the obvious choice but would not stick at all. We also happened to have some commercial double stick carpet tape, binder clips, nylon rope, bungies and wire. All of which we tried to no avail. I got some nylon ties at a truck stop and threaded them through the rivet holes. This worked well with just a little maintenance when we stopped for gas.
When we got to our ralley in Santa Fe a very nice gentleman filled me in on vintage belly maintenance. He had every size rivet made , a big drill, and just about anything else anyone could need. He actually crawled under my trailer and showed me how to rivet. I would have had no idea but I sure do now! The man was Don Schafer, a very active WBCCI official. Thanks to him we are still rolling!
Heidi
'67 Caravel
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01-08-2004, 11:30 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Here we are.
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01-08-2004, 12:17 PM
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Moderator
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,255
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Wow, sounds like my Caravel's going to get a good tummy inspection before we hit the road for our big road trip! And I'm now going to bring a rivet gun, drill, rivets, and wire ties - Never can be too prepared!
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01-08-2004, 01:16 PM
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Just a member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Lutz
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,549
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It does not suprise me that Don had the tools and the knowlege. He has been in WBCCI for 40+ years. He and his wife are wonderful folks. We had the pleasure of them attending our first two unit rallies this year.
Stephanie,
Remeber the black box of goodies I shipped to your house? My coach goes nowhere without it on board Rivets, wire ties, screws of all sizes and electrical connectors galore! I would suggest a smaller version (for a smaller unit) that stows in the Van or under the bed. They can be had in the sporting goods department at a Wal Mart or Kmart.
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WBCCI #5501 AIR # 49
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