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07-06-2014, 07:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 27' FB International
El Dorado Hills
, California
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Less Wasted Space in the Airstream
As all Airstream owners know, storage space inside the Airstream is a premium. As I was trying to figure where to store my new O-Grill BBQ, I decided to reconfigure an area of the trailer that has always been wasted space. On my 27FB International Serenity, and I think true for 25FB's too, the dinette seat adjacent to the entry door is mostly wasted space. The subwoofer is back there, but it's fairly compact.
There's a large wasteful triangular shaped piece of upholstered foam occupying the space behind seatback cushion (left side looking back). The entire seating area sits above mostly wasted space except for a small slide out drawer.
The photo above shows the standard Airstream layout. Lots of cushion, not much useful storage underneath.
I decided to do something about this problem, so I started by ripping everything out.
I noticed that the slide out drawer could be larger. There's plenty of extra room between the aluminum legs and more room to the rear. It could be rebuilt to be wider, taller, and deeper.
Here's a photo of the new replacement drawer. It was an easy project to remove the laminated front piece from the old drawer box and screw it onto the new larger drawer box.
Next I cut the existing piece of plywood, the seat bottom and began laying out a shell of a cabinet that could hold the BBQ on end and a few other items. I intentionally set the seatback side of the cabinet at a slight angle to provide seating comfort. In the photo the old foam bolster is laying on top, just to illustrate how its about the same size as the replacement cabinet. I used 1/2" plywood for the cabinet sides and top and 3/4 poplar for the face frame.
Ready to be installed. I used plain white laminate for the interior and Wilsonart Asian Sand laminate (as used by Airstream for my 2013 International Serenity) for the exterior. The BBQ fits below, the top shelf is for additional storage.
Here it is, everything installed and ready to go! No more wasted space and the seat is just as it was prior to the project. I did have to get the lower cushion re-upholstered to make it shorter. The dinette still converts to a bed, just a few inches shorter than before but still more than big enough for my 6 foot frame. I wanted this project to appears as much like Airstream had made it so researched the finishes to match my 2013 Serenity. I also constructed the cabinet slightly lower than the old bolster so that it no longer interferes with the window curtains.
Parts List (Exact Airstream Match): Laminate - Wilsonart Asian Sand - Part # 7952K-01 (Special ordered from Lowes)
Door Pull - Top Knobs Nouveau - Part # TOP_M575 (Get the part Here or Here).
The exact countertop laminate is no longer manufactured, or supplied by Airstream so I decided not to even try for a close match. I think the decision to use the Asian Sand worked out just fine.
On a difficulty level I place this project as medium high. I did have some expert carpenter help, but the project was still a lot of measuring, cutting, fitting, sanding, repeat. I'm very satisfied with the outcome and now have a convenient place to store the BBQ, shoes, and lots more.
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07-06-2014, 07:55 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 28' International
Blacksburg
, Virginia
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 308
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awesome
I need a cabinet like that in a 28 Serenity. Mine is open like that, only on the opposite side . This Gives me an excellent idea.
awesome! Thanks so much for posting your work.
Have a good one !
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07-06-2014, 09:07 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 27' FB International
Arlington
, Virginia
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 107
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Looks amazing! Great idea to get the drawer enlarged!
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07-06-2014, 09:48 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1969 27' Overlander
SW
, Missouri
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 121
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Very well thought out and executed improvement. Great job!
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07-06-2014, 10:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,270
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Very nice....
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07-06-2014, 10:18 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
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We slide plastic storage tubs under our normally wasted space but yours looks great!
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07-06-2014, 10:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Hi, this is how Airstream should have built it in the first place.
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07-07-2014, 12:24 AM
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Thanks for sharing!
I want this. A lot. It looks similar to what I saw in a 2013 27FB Flying Cloud while camping near Glacier National Park. Much better than the huge bolster and tiny drawer we have now. What was Christopher thinking when he designed that abomination of wasted space? Otherwise, though, we love our TT.
Sadly, I'm not handy enough to do this myself. I'd have to hire someone. Since ours is a Signature, we'd also need a different Wilsonart laminate color and probably a different handle to match our cabinets.
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07-07-2014, 04:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,343
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Beautiful- I've been eyeing that space myself. I wondered why they didn't at least put in the kind of compartment we had at the head and foot of the bed in our 20'.
On the plus side that space between the drawer and door is a good spot to stash shoes and a dog-drying towel.
I've thought of having a few oversized "cup holders" cut into the top of the foam to hold wine bottles.
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07-07-2014, 07:59 AM
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
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Correction
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Originally Posted by Silvery Moon
It looks similar to what I saw in a 2013 27FB Flying Cloud while camping near Glacier National Park.
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Correction, that was a 2013 27FB Classic, not a Flying Cloud. Here's the floorplan that shows the "chair storage" where you installed your cabinet: http://www.airstream.com/wp-content/...ifications.png
Anyway, AS should do this for all their FB models.
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07-07-2014, 10:08 AM
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Rivet Master
2011 25' FB Flying Cloud
Peculiar
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 531
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That's a great job!
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07-07-2014, 10:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2011 25' FB Flying Cloud
Anywhere &
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Another version of a Bolster Cabinet.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f46/...ml#post1232262
In some trailers - like the 25FB Flying Cloud - the subwoofer is located behind the drawer so it can't be enlarged.
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11-07-2014, 10:49 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
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We attempted that cabinet conversion to match the 27FB Classic storage cabinet by the door with the local dealership on our 2013 25FB International Serenity. It was a total disaster and had to be redone and we lost the use of the trailer for many months.
Get a competent carpenter and printout the drawings of that assembly from the Classic parts manual as guidance. The dealership did not even printout the drawings.....
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11-07-2014, 11:40 AM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
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That is a really impressive idea and setup! Very very impressive. I almost think I want to attempt this. The gears are 'a' spinning!
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11-07-2014, 11:46 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al - K4GLU
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Two screws hold the subwoofer so it's easy to move, or remove as we did. It looks to me like the thing is constantly drawing power from the batteries and we don't consider flooding the inside of the trailer with richer noise desirable.
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11-07-2014, 12:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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After trying to live with this dinette/cushioned benches designer's exercise fitted poorly and wastefully in the end of our Flying Cloud (all late model 25s and 27s are stuck with this thing) we decided to get rid of the whole thing as shown in our Avatar.
The table is too wide and there are foam bolsters behind all the back cushions to widen a standard dinette enough to "look right". And it looks good but sits poorly for anything but using the table.
Adding the side storage is an excellent idea. The 27' Classics had a compartment there for folding chairs. Other modifications may be a sofa or reclining chair(s) and not all 25/27 models allow the same modification because there may be appliances in the way.
An opportunity to be your own designer of useful space to fit your own lifestyle, you can't do much worse than the original. A caution to consider is personalizing it so that nobody wants it when you decide to sell or trade.
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11-18-2014, 09:08 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1991 29' Excella
Currently Looking...
Marco Island
, Florida
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 164
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Well aren't you brilliant and talented! Great ideas and workmanship!
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11-18-2014, 09:27 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
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That is a super idea and a great job. You could sell those cabinets. I would like to do something similar but I am not as talented as you are.
Brian
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11-18-2014, 09:51 AM
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ShinyPete
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Bushnell
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 413
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This is now on my wish list! Nice job!
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