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Lothlorian 11-07-2011 06:42 PM

Looking for a Tow Vehicle
 
Money is tight and I cannot afford a new truck. I have not been crazy about the prices of trucks and Vans I am not sure of. I need some advice in purchasing a 2nd Tow vehicle since I will have two airstreams. I pull mine with my Dodge Ram, but I need a second for my son.

What about a 1980's or 1990's Crown Vic? They have a 5.0L engine and they look like they could be pretty comfortable. The price seems pretty good on those cars. I would not mind buying a old Van with a big enough engine. One you could stand in would be great. Any advice would be welcomed

Brian

perryg114 11-07-2011 06:44 PM

What is your budget and how good are you at fixing things?

Perry

mutcth 11-07-2011 06:47 PM

Your son is pulling what again - a early 60s Overlander?

Tom

Gringo 11-07-2011 07:02 PM

Crown Vic Police Interceptor would be cool.

Should be a lot of them coming up on auctions as police forces start modernizing.

Weren't they something like 1,000 lbs tow rated?

Lothlorian 11-07-2011 07:19 PM

The 1960 Overlander would be pulled with the 2nd tow vehicle. The Overlander Dry weight I think is 3270 Lbs. I am not the engine mechanic. One of the reasons I went with a trailer instead of a motorhome.

Brian

Lothlorian 11-07-2011 07:28 PM

I have researched and this is what I found. I found different points of views. One guy said that the crown vic would make a great tow vehicle that Ford deliberitly down graded the towing ability so people would buy SUV's. Another said the Crown Vic would be good but you would need to put a transmission cooler on it.

I am open for any kind of Used Tow vehicle that could seat four people. I will continue to search.

Brian

SteveH 11-07-2011 07:33 PM

Any vehicle you buy to tow with that did not come from the factory with the towing package, will need a transmission cooler, that is if it has an automatic trans.

Gringo 11-07-2011 07:49 PM

Might be time to run your Crown Vic idea by that RV towing guy in Canada. Can Am or something like that, isn't it? They can tell you what you would need to do to tow with that vehicle, I bet.

r carl 11-07-2011 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gringo (Post 1069624)
Crown Vic Police Interceptor would be cool.

Should be a lot of them coming up on auctions as police forces start modernizing.

Weren't they something like 1,000 lbs tow rated?

Wasnt the Pinto rated for 1,000lbs? :lol:

Gringo 11-07-2011 08:19 PM

Was that with Firestone 500's all round?

overlander64 11-07-2011 10:33 PM

Looking for a Tow Vehicle
 
Greetings Brian!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lothlorian (Post 1069631)
The 1960 Overlander would be pulled with the 2nd tow vehicle. The Overlander Dry weight I think is 3270 Lbs. I am not the engine mechanic. One of the reasons I went with a trailer instead of a motorhome.

Brian

My suggestion would be to consider something like a Buick Roadmaster Estate station wagon from the mid-to-late 1990s. These were available with a trailer towing package that included the LT 1 5.7 Liter V8, and when equipped with the 3.23 differential gearing were rated to tow a trailer the size of your son's Overlander. Similar Buick Roadmaster sedans as well as Cadillac Brougham d'Elegance from the same time period were available with the same options including the trailer towing package. I am not certain whether the very similar Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser wagon was available with the heavy duty trailering package. The Chevrolet Caprice from that time period may also be a candidate as I believe that it was available with the LT 1, but I haven't encountered as many utilizing that particular vehicle. I would suggest staying away from any of these vehicles if it doesn't have the LT1 option . . . the 5.0 Liter V8 just doesn't have the power for an Overlander (IMHO).

Good luck with your investigation!

Kevin

TouringDan 11-07-2011 11:15 PM

I would go for a mid to late 90's van. I have a 93 van and it is real low on power and torque. It is 5.7L and only 195 hp. In 94 or 95 they boosted it to 250 hp. I suspect a similar increase in torque.

Vans don't hold their value well, so you can get the most bang for the buck in a van.

Dan

noreen&sal 11-08-2011 05:23 AM

Rear wheel drive
 
The DW drives a 94 Mercury Marquis {same as Crown Vic}. I always thought that with a beefed up suspension an tranny cooler it would be a good TV. Very few cars at that time had rear wheel drive. Sal.

r carl 11-08-2011 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gringo (Post 1069649)
Was that with Firestone 500's all round?

No, the Firestones would outlast those cars. :lol:
The molds for those Firestone 500's must be in china now. :D

perryg114 11-08-2011 06:16 AM

You got to think about how much you are going to have to drop into something that is 20yrs old to get it reliable. You can get used Expeditions (F-150 based) for less than $5000. Of you could get something 10 yrs older and pay $2000 for it and spend another $2000 to get it reliable not to mention labor. I am just talking parts here.

Perry

Skater 11-08-2011 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TouringDan (Post 1069714)
I would go for a mid to late 90's van. I have a 93 van and it is real low on power and torque. It is 5.7L and only 195 hp. In 94 or 95 they boosted it to 250 hp. I suspect a similar increase in torque.

Vans don't hold their value well, so you can get the most bang for the buck in a van.

Dan

My 1991 B190 had the 460 - plenty of HP and torque. I suspect the Chevy equivalent engine, assuming it was available in vans, would also do the job quite well.

But I agree with perryg114 - you could easily spend as much fixing up an old one as you could just buying a newer one. Be careful.

slowmover 11-08-2011 08:27 AM

2Air pointed out a couple of years ago that the re-modeled 1996 and later 1/2-T Fords were not popular with Neanderthal truck buyers, didn't look trucklike, what with the aerodynamic emphasis. Thus, re-sale value makes for a good TV. And the aftermarket is full of good tires, shocks, coolers, etc that are easy to fit.

The Ford CV is underpowered and has a very long rear overhang. The brakes and steering were not so good until 2003 and later (Watts' linkage added). The police spec ones are worn out before you get them. They might be okay for a commuter, but towing will stress components and systems.

The mid-90's RWD GM's have a poor history of reliability due to electrical gremlins (cheap components). The LT-1 motor is strong, but some weird and expensive accessory parts.

.

Gringo 11-08-2011 11:39 AM

just curious, but what's the word for the self delusion we all seem to suffer that people who buy expensive aluminum trailers to do what a good tent would accomplish for a hundredth of the money are the best sources of financial advice?

perryg114 11-08-2011 12:04 PM

I have come to the conclusion that Airstream and Economy should not be mentioned in the same sentence. I bought mine in hopes it will still be here in 30yrs.

Perry

Gringo 11-08-2011 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perryg114 (Post 1069857)
I bought mine in hopes it will still be here in 30yrs.

Perry

I bought mine with hopes that I would.


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