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John Geisen 08-18-2010 09:52 PM

Can't open lid to service batteries on 2005 International
 
On my International, two batteries are located behind the propane tanks. There is a fairly simple latch that you turn to open the lid of the battery compartment to check water, etc. For some reason I can't seem to turn this latch and open the lid. It isn't rusted or frozen and I've spayed liquid silicone all around the latch thinking it may not be working internally.

Any help on how I might gain access to the batteries would be appreciated. I don't want to damage anything if possible. If memory serves me, the whole mechanism is held in place with a nut located on the underside of the lid.

Any help would be appreciated.

John :mad:

ROBERTSUNRUS 08-18-2010 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by John Geisen (Post 884422)
On my International, two batteries are located behind the propane tanks. There is a fairly simple latch that you turn to open the lid of the battery compartment to check water, etc. For some reason I can't seem to turn this latch and open the lid. It isn't rusted or frozen and I've spayed liquid silicone all around the latch thinking it may not be working internally.

Any help on how I might gain access to the batteries would be appreciated. I don't want to damage anything if possible. If memory serves me, the whole mechanism is held in place with a nut located on the underside of the lid.

Any help would be appreciated.

John :mad:

:) Hi, sounds like your battery box is the same as mine. If you can't turn the latch, and prying would for sure bend the door, I would drill out the pop rivets at the hinge to get the door off and then deal with the latch.

John Geisen 08-18-2010 10:49 PM

Hi Bob, sounds like a pretty good idea. I've never drilled out and replaced any rivets before. I'm currently traveling until the end of October so I guess the battery check will have to wait. Do you happen to know what size rivets and if they are available at, say, Ace Hardware? Thanks for your help.

John

ROBERTSUNRUS 08-18-2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by John Geisen (Post 884448)
Hi Bob, sounds like a pretty good idea. I've never drilled out and replaced any rivets before. I'm currently traveling until the end of October so I guess the battery check will have to wait. Do you happen to know what size rivets and if they are available at, say, Ace Hardware? Thanks for your help.

John

:) Hi, John. I don't know the size, but after you drill the head of the rivet off and push the rest through the hole, you will be able to check the size with a drill bit. I would think you could buy pop rivets from any good hardware store.

John Geisen 08-18-2010 11:19 PM

Bob, thanks again. Maybe I can fix it while I'm on the road. Just need a little luck.

John

2airishuman 08-18-2010 11:39 PM

try pushing DOWN on the latch while turning.

if that doesn't work just wack/CRANK the latch, use pliers or a hammer as necessary.

U are correct the latch is secured with a larger THIN knut...

and IF you break the latch, they are a 5$ item to replace...

much much MUCH easier than drilling rivets and REplacing those rivets.

wack it, beat it, hit it, crank it, wiggle it...and so on.

do NOT B defeated by the latch, BE the latch...:D

cheers
2air'

John Geisen 08-19-2010 09:26 PM

2Air - I just don't want to risk damaging the lid by "wacking", "beating", "hitting", "cranking", etc. Removing the rivets seems a little extreme to replace a latch but with the simple tools I brought with me on the road it may be the lesser evil. I have tried pushing while turning, and pulling while turning, but the latch appears defective and unwilling to cooperate. Thanks for your help.

John

2airishuman 08-19-2010 09:37 PM

did ya bring a hammer?

hint...

(all tools are hammers except chisels which r screwdrivers)

CLEARLY the wackit suggestion was a joke...

clearly.

but the lid is JUST a flat sheet of metal, it's not something special.

and the latch really is essentially pot metal, so go for it!

__________

have u tried UNhitching and THEN turning the latch ?

also try squirtin wdfourty INTO the keyhole...

might save ya drillin and riveting n hammer'n

cheers
2air'

John Geisen 08-20-2010 10:18 PM

Success! Thanks for the encouragement. With lots of WD-40 I managed to somehow turn the latch and open the lid to the battery compartment one time. Once I got it open I left it open while I worked on disassembling the latch. After getting it open it turned out the bearing inside the latch was very rusted on one side. It took lots of spray silicone and and about 30 minutes to clean and lubricate the ball bearing. I was able to re-assemble and reinstall the latch and it seems to be working like new.

Given the opportunity, I'd like to find a new bearing to replace the partially rusted one.

Thanks again for everyone's help and support.

John


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