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John Moody 01-17-2009 08:50 AM

Toyota Sequoia & Towing
 
Hi Alex,

We have a 19' Bambi and tow with a Toyota Sequioa V8, and want to upgrade Airstream to at 25'. Are we pushing the limits?

Thanks,
John

Garfield 01-17-2009 09:06 AM

You might be interested in reading one person's experience...

www.paushe.com - Our Excellent Camping Adventures

08Safari25 01-18-2009 01:58 PM

Hi John. It depends on what year your Sequoia is. We have the 2008 model with the larger 5.7 L V8 with a rated towing capacity of 10,000 pounds. I would not have chosen a model with the smaller V8 as a towing vehicle for a 25' safari, but that is my opinion. The article Gary posted is interesting, but I would worry about having sufficient margin.

Road Ruler 01-18-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garfield (Post 657463)
You might be interested in reading one person's experience...

www.paushe.com - Our Excellent Camping Adventures

Interesting article Gary, thnxs for posting.

purman 01-18-2009 04:20 PM

I have the 08' Sequoia 5.7 liter and you can tow a 28 foot no problem. I pulled are friends 05 safari to Zion NP and back to colorado, over the mountains. stable, no sway, easy to stop. over the passes at 70+

We normally tow our 68' 28 foot ambassador. It's about 2000 lbs lighter dry weight of 4400 I think. I don't even know it's back most of the time.


You don't need a truck to tow big. But if you don't need the inside space, like we did, I would go with a truck. Why not.

We have kids and dog and need the space inside. have to seat more than 5 comfortable . Plus it is our everyday driver and no matter what people say. the trucks don't ride as nice.

So, People will have there input but I have towed over 3000 miles this past summer with a 28' trailer behind it and I love the way it handles.

RLS 02-10-2009 11:11 PM

I have a 06 Infiniti QX56 that handles very well so far towing an 04 25 Classic. On the Interstate Rds. I usually cruise at 70 - 75 MPH. without any problems. I'm using the Reese anti sway bar set up. Have been told by friends following in back she tracks straight as an arrow with no sway what so ever. :) I've put about 2,500 miles on so far with this set up.

Silvertwinkie 02-10-2009 11:16 PM

19' yes...but I feel 25' is pushing it. The issue isn't power...it has it as does nearly any 5.7L.

Ashlander 02-18-2009 12:26 PM

We have a 2008 Sequoia and are picking up a new 25' Safari in May. Have you done anything to your mirrors or are the ones on the vehicle adequate?

Silvertwinkie 02-18-2009 02:31 PM

Here is something worth taking a look at as it makes good sense:

RV Towing Tips - How long?

Sequoia, based on it's wheelbase should have not much more than 23'.

Road Ruler 02-18-2009 02:51 PM

For many years one of my pals has been towing a 30' SOB with his Sequoia.

He is very fussy with the handling and performance and wouldn't put up with any negative issues.

The Hensley hitch and reinforced factory receiver is part of the success story.

Silvertwinkie 02-18-2009 02:55 PM

That really does go a long way for me knowing there is someone crazier that I am out there doing something really smart.....just what is it with the Canadians anyway towing these big rigs with matchbox cars (though I admit, I would rather see a Sequoia than a Dodge Intrepid towing a 30 or 34 footer..)? I just don't get it, and perhaps I never will fully understand how a hitch and a beefed up hitch can overcome the daunting weight ratio differences of a huge trailer with small tow vehicle. Who knows, maybe we're the crazy ones for having a 130" wheelbase and a 3/4 ton truck to pull 7000lbs and 26' feet worth of trailer. ;) :brows:

Gene 02-18-2009 02:57 PM

The Sequoia is a very comfy vehicle—like the old family sedan on steroids. We had a 2002 one and it was great to travel in, but we didn't have a trailer then.

As a tow vehicle for a 25', I am unsure of whether it has the payload you will need. The 25' Safari/Flying Clouds have a GVWR of 7,000 to 7,300 lbs., a lot more than purman's trailer. We tow with an '07 Tundra and we have barely enough payload to provide a safety margin of around 10%. SUV's usually have less payload than pickups and have tendency to get loaded with more things. I would guess the Sequoia weighs about 1,000 lbs. more than the Tundra and that means it has to come out of payload. The Sequoia has a suspension made for that comfy ride rather than towing heavier trailers like the 25's.

I expect you can tow a 25' with a Sequoia and it'll feel fine. But the wear and tear on the vehicle will eventually show up—suspension, transmission, engine—and won't be cheap.

If you have the 4.7L V8, I think you will also be on the weak side on power. The 5.7 L has about 50% more HP.

Check your owner's manual for payload and how to calculate your situation, then check the Forum on that issue.

Gene

Silvertwinkie 02-18-2009 03:08 PM

The specs as Toyota publishes do appear to be able to tow larger trailers upward of 9100lbs, but I have yet to see what they put into these beasts to be able to make these claims unless they are talking about 9000lb 23' trailers. :D

If you recall the Nissan Armada way back when, they boosted the trailer capacity by adding a trans cooler, calling it "the big tow" package....that rating was bumped by about 2000lbs just with something like that.

The 5.7L Sequoia has a 381hp 5.7L, but my Impala SS had similar numbers too and power numbers alone do not a tow vehicle make and I had a 118" when I first started towing my 25er. The difference in stability between my SS pulling and my Burb is just night and day....and yer right Gene....my rear body bushings had issues with all that "extra" hitch weight. It was only rated for about 550-600lbs.....I put a few hundred more lbs of hitch weight. In my case the drivetrain was far up to it, but the flex and the beating was to much for the frame and body mounts, which is why it only had a 5000lb rating, no matter what I did with gears, trans, engine, suspension.....of course the Sequoia's frame is prob just a bit more beefy than say a sedan. :)

85MH325 02-18-2009 06:42 PM

My experience was pulling a 34' tri-axle with a 7,000 lb V10 Excursion. The Excursion was just barely enough tow vehicle for the 8,900 lb trailer. I have an '07 Titan now... with the Big Tow package and a 9,400 lb tow rating. It weighs a little more than half what the Excursion weighed... after towing with the 3/4 ton Excursion rated at 10k lbs, I doubt I'd ever try to tow more than about 6k lbs with it.

Roger

boondockdad 02-18-2009 07:41 PM

2008 suburban 4X4 2500 ______________2008 sequoia limited 4X4

352 HP/383 lb-ft_____HP/Torque_________381 HP/401 lb-ft
22.7’ ______________turning diameter _____39’
130”_______________wheelbase___________122”
68.2”_______________track_______________67.9”
8__________________seating capacity_______8
6327_______________curb weight___________6030
9300_______________tow capacity__________9100
8600_______________GVWR_______________7030
45.8 cf_____________cargo capacity_________28.4 cf
39_________________fuel tank(gal)_________26.4
14/19_______________MPG________________13/18

CanoeStream 02-18-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by finalcutjoe (Post 668492)
2008 suburban 4X4 2500 ______________2008 sequoia limited 4X4

352 HP/383 lb-ft_____HP/Torque_________381 HP/401 lb-ft
22.7 ______________turning diameter _____39
130_______________wheelbase___________122
68.2_______________track_______________67.9
8__________________seating capacity_______8
6327_______________curb weight___________6030
9300_______________tow capacity__________9100
8600_______________GVWR_______________7030
45.8 cf_____________cargo capacity_________28.4 cf
39_________________fuel tank(gal)_________26.4
14/19_______________MPG________________13/18

What's the payload capacity of each? Tongue weight (weighed, not the published empty wt) + driver + passenger + cargo in the TV cannot exceed the payload capacity of the TV -- or else emergency maneuvers may not function as the engineers designed. That's navigating off the map IMO.

Payload capacity = GVWR minus curb weight.
Tongue weight = 11-13% of trailer gross weight (cannot be rigged to be less or very unstable tow results)

Using finalcutjoe's figures:
Burb_____________________________________Sequoia
2273 # ____________ Payload ______________ 1000 #

That's not enough Sequoia payload capacity to be practical. The SUV cab does add extra weight over the Tundra's pickup box.

toddster 02-18-2009 09:03 PM

I love my '06 Sequoia with the 273HP 4.7liter V8. It pulls my '67 Globetrotter like a dream. I am planning on upgrading with a TRD catback system to get a little more HP and torque (plus that sweet sound). Having now towed my GT about 1000 miles with the Sequoia I can honestly say that I wouldn't want to tow anything much heavier than about 5000# with this vehicle (even though it is rated to 6500#). I just don't like putting too much strain on the drivetrain. I know that this thread is really more about the latest generation of Sequoia, but I had to chime in since I think the last generation is soooo much better looking (FLAME ON :D) :bash:

Garfield 02-18-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddster (Post 668520)
I love my '06 Sequoia with the 273HP 4.7liter V8. It pulls my '67 Globetrotter like a dream. I am planning on upgrading with a TRD catback system to get a little more HP and torque (plus that sweet sound). Having now towed my GT about 1000 miles with the Sequoia I can honestly say that I wouldn't want to tow anything much heavier than about 5000# with this vehicle (even though it is rated to 6500#). I just don't like putting too much strain on the drivetrain. I know that this thread is really more about the latest generation of Sequoia, but I had to chime in since I think the last generation is soooo much better looking (FLAME ON :D) :bash:

No flames from me! The 4.7L Sequoia is about the only SUV I'd consider replacing my Yukon with. If only those darned Toyota's weren't so expensive, even used!

Action 02-20-2009 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Moody (Post 657456)
Hi Alex,

We have a 19' Bambi and tow with a Toyota Sequioa V8, and want to upgrade Airstream to at 25'. Are we pushing the limits?

Thanks,
John


DEpends on year and drive config.

2007 4X4 rated for 6200 # towed load - same year 4X2 = 6500 #'s

Different year may be diff results. Same goes for the A/S. They were built heavier as the newer model came out.

>>>>>>>>Action

osolow 02-20-2009 03:25 PM

it should handle it just fine
dont you remember the Ad for that SUV when it came out it was towing an A/S to the desert???
YouTube - 2008 Toyota Sequoia

YouTube - Toyota Sequoia commercial


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