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BamCamper 05-01-2008 04:54 PM

SunForce 400W Wind Generator
 
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Does anyone have any experience with the

400W Wind generator from SunForce products?

I was discussing it today with my Airstream Dealer and they seemed
pretty impressed with it. They are going to order one as a demo and test it out.

I liked the portability of it (it weighs only 17 lbs.) and of course not having to carry around gas cans.
There is also a free standing telescoping RV stand available for it (weighs 66 lbs.).

It's not cheap (list $844.49).
But then again, wind is free!

bobfowler 05-01-2008 06:20 PM

If I were to buy one, it would be dead calm everytime I camped... :sad:

AirsDream 05-01-2008 06:35 PM

Well, you could always attach it to the roof of your TV and drive around for a while! :)

Boondocker 05-01-2008 06:46 PM

I don't know if it is the same unit, but a couple I know who have an airstream they take down to padre island every winter has a wind generator and they swear by it. Of course, there is always wind there. The other thing is that they stay in one place for extended periods so set up and take down is less of an issue.

lewster 05-01-2008 06:58 PM

Interesting, but you will still need a charge controller to provide the proper metering of the current to your batteries ($300-400 for a good one).

What is the wind speed necessary for maximum output? I think unless you were headed for a spot with known, consistent wind, I would go solar instead!:D

I have friends with a surf camp in Baja and they use 2 of these, backed up by 8 solar panels and (shudder the thought) a diesel generator! All this is connected to a humongous battery bank of 12, 8-D behemoth Lifeline AGM batteries...making their own AC thru inverters. Obviously, there is no electricty available in their remote area...but the surf shure is great!!!!!:wally:

Jaxon 05-01-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lewster
Interesting, but you will still need a charge controller to provide the proper metering of the current to your batteries ($300-400 for a good one). What is the wind speed necessary for maximum output? I think unless you were headed for a spot with known, consistent wind, I would go solar instead!:D

Yup, I agree. If it were $84.44, I'd consider along with solar panels... otherwise, $844 is awfully rich for those dead summer daze (which we seem to run into alot down here). However, the SUN is definitely out. Alot!

sfixx 05-01-2008 07:47 PM

Great idea and maybe a good investment if the math works out. I'd take a reasonable loss just to be green anyway. You should look into the decibles the thing makes at speed, though I hear the newer designs are getting a lot quieter.

Good luck,

Steve

janetb 05-01-2008 08:45 PM

Great thread, Bam. We all need to think of some good alternatives, and I love the "shooting the breeze" option.

thecatsandi 05-01-2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamCamper
Does anyone have any experience with the

400W Wind generator from SunForce products?

I was discussing it today with my Airstream Dealer and they seemed
pretty impressed with it. They are going to order one as a demo and test it out.

I liked the portability of it (it weighs only 17 lbs.) and of course not having to carry around gas cans.
There is also a free standing telescoping RV stand available for it (weighs 66 lbs.).

It's not cheap (list $844.49).
But then again, wind is free!

Noise is one problem with wind generators the faster they turn the noisier they are. This can be a problem in the middle of the night. In order to be effective they have to be above the tree line.

BamCamper 05-01-2008 09:20 PM

On a small Airstream like mine, mounting enough solar panels to really make a difference seems like it would be cumbersome and unsightly.

The stand for the wind generator is very portable with a small "L" at the bottom that you drive a tire over to stabilize. I couldn't find a photo but I saw one at the dealer.

It would be nice to be able to bring it only when needed or leave it at home.
Or take it with you if you sell your Airstream.

As far as price goes...I don't know if there is a less expensive version available? Has anyone seen other models out there for less?

Darol Ingalls 05-01-2008 10:09 PM

Google "Wind Generators". Lots of alternatives and for less money. Darol

BamCamper 05-01-2008 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Darol Ingalls
Google "Wind Generators". Lots of alternatives and for less money. Darol

Have you ever tried any of them or seen any in operation?

Goin camping 05-01-2008 10:48 PM

Bam,

The windmill and charge controller work out $$ wise to a solar panel set up.

With the windmill you need to set up and take down and have enough wind. Hopefully that model is not as loud as others I've heard.

Talk with Uwe and if a panel fits on your roof (and I think it will) you might be better off going solar.

We have one panel on the roof that keeps our batts fully charged. In winter camping the juice we use running the furnace all night is recharged by noonish. With your smaller size and reduced heating requirments it should not be a problem for you.

No matter which system you choose you'll still need a genny to run the A/C.

Good luck.

sfixx 05-02-2008 08:02 AM

I notice at the bottom of this very page is the "similar thread" list with a few of the previous turbine discussions.

My hesitation with solar is that I like to park in the shade to avoid using A/C and I would hate to have to choose the sunny spot just to charge my batteries. If we're rolling my batteries are getting recharged anyway.

Best wishes,

Steve

Boondocker 05-02-2008 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sfixx
My hesitation with solar is that I like to park in the shade to avoid using A/C and I would hate to have to choose the sunny spot just to charge my batteries.

I hear ya Steve. I think this is why many of us, if not most, in the end opt for a generator. I have a generator now which I love, but I would also like to add solar at some point, but not this year.

BamCamper 05-02-2008 03:38 PM

I have a Honda genny also but am interested in something more green that doesn't use gas.

Fyrzowt 05-02-2008 04:47 PM

A photo of a photocopy
 
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Sky river is about a mile from my house - I was over there and asked about wind generators. The two staff looked at each other and laughed, saying lots of people have been asking about wind generation this week.:rolleyes:
They couldn't answer my questions about noise or when they expect the demo in.
Here are photos of the generator and it's specs, and one of the mounting pole and additional info.
Price for both is $1019.99

Dave

lewster 05-02-2008 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sfixx
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My hesitation with solar is that I like to park in the shade to avoid using A/C and I would hate to have to choose the sunny spot just to charge my batteries. If we're rolling my batteries are getting recharged anyway.

Best wishes,

Steve

My solution is a simple one: I'm putting 2 X 100 watt solar panels on the roof of my van, along with 2 Lifeline GPL-6CT 300 amp/hour batteries and a Magnum 2000 watt sine wave inverter.

This way, I can park the CCD in the shade and the van in the sun and run a power cable (6 guage) from the inverter in the van to the Marinco connection on the CCD to get all the power I need.:D (except for the A/C of course!!!:rolleyes: )

B25guy 07-10-2008 02:30 PM

Might as well start thinking green...
 
Got an AirX 400W wind turbine last week...going to start experimenting with the various possibilities.

For starters, I'm going to run the juice into the twin batteries on the A/S to keep them charged while parked :sad: in the driveway. In this hot TX sun, I usually leave it parked with both Fantastic Vents going to keep it from overheating inside. It has a built-in regulator, so I'll see how this does over the traditional Battery Minder I'm currently using. I expect to use the 600W inverter inside the coach to provide an occasional charge to various portable devices within.

If this works out, I may add others and create a battery bank in the garage to tap into for desktop computer, refrigerators, etc.

I think for camping or even boondocking, this might not be a practical alternative just yet but the MechEng in me says this is just something I have to start playing with...I think that in 20 years, every house will have either solar or wind or both.

Marc

ArtStream 07-10-2008 04:27 PM

Hey Marc,

Thanks for the heads-up.
We are all interested in your follow-up.

Like Lewster, I have 3, 130w panels on the roof if my TV and generating all the power I can use.

Have gone as long as 45 days without shore power.

M


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