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StingrayL82 08-21-2007 12:13 PM

Main Awning Question
 
The other night we got 9 inches of rain, and I woke up to a miniature pond in the awning (I did have one side of the awning tipped down for drainage, but to no avail). I have one helluva time retracting the awning now, because the weight of the water bent the main roller. Any suggestions on getting the roller straight again? Thanks in advance for the replies.

Frederic

richinny 08-21-2007 12:53 PM

there IS a procedure for straightening the roller if it has a slight bend. try the zip dee site or search here. i am 1500 miles from my manuals.

2airishuman 08-21-2007 01:09 PM

you will need 2 friends and at least one should be bald...
 
hi frederic...

basically the awing is rolled up until the bend is on the high side...

then while 2 strong folks support the roller ends, another person grabs or hangs from the high spot...

a graphic of this is included in the newer manuals and the details are spelled out...

at the z/d web site.

Awnings By ZipDee

please take pictures and post them when you do the deed.

these will be fun AND useful to view...

cheers
2air'

Minnie's Mate 08-21-2007 01:30 PM

I have bent two support arms within the last year from forgetting to lower one arm or to retract the awning altogether. I now keep a spare under the sofa.

I didn't know you could straighten the roller once it was bent. In process photos would be appreciated.

StingrayL82 08-21-2007 02:10 PM

2air,

For a second, I got the "hey, put your tongue on this frozen metal pole" vision, but I followed the link to Zip Dee and saw you weren't goofing. My neighbors are going to help me this evening. I'll take before and after pics. Thanks.

Frederic

richinny 08-21-2007 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2airishuman
hi frederic...

basically the awing is rolled up until the bend is on the high side...

then while 2 strong folks support the roller ends, another person grabs or hangs from the high spot...

a graphic of this is included in the newer manuals and the details are spelled out...

at the z/d web site.

Awnings By ZipDee

please take pictures and post them when you do the deed.

these will be fun AND useful to view...

cheers
2air'

you can also use two "a" frame ladders. you should have someone watch from a distance to avoid over-bending.

gparker 08-21-2007 03:13 PM

I had a bow in my boom that I tried and tried ti straighten using the zip dee method, but it was only after I took the boom off, placed the ends on sawhorses, and bounced on top of the boom thay I got it straight. Hanging like an ape just didn't do the trick.

Wayne&Sam 08-21-2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gparker
Hanging like an ape just didn't do the trick.

You need a bigger ape.

StingrayL82 09-01-2007 01:41 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Well, it happened again last night.....30% chance of rain in Texas means 100% apparently. Middle of the night lightning and thunderstorm. I wasn't getting up for anything. I woke up to the awning bent again. Seeing how I forgot to take pictures last time, I took them this time. Here are the results. You can see the sag in the awning in the first picture and how it's more taut in the second.

Frederic

Silverhobby 09-01-2007 02:48 PM

Simple Procedure
 
As simple as it is to deploy and retract the awning, storing it before leaving or bedtime is the only thing to do. When you are not under it, what purpose is it serving for you? Sorry for the "bends." Hope it is easy to repair.

jcanavera 09-01-2007 03:49 PM

You might reconsider the angle that you lower that awning arm by. Just making one side lower by one stop on the arm is really not adequate when you get a good storm. It will pool faster than it can run off.

Jack

StingrayL82 09-03-2007 08:00 AM

Jack, I dropped the one side down another two notches, and it worked perfectly. I thought that dropping it one notch would be okay, but this Texas rain comes down quick.

Silverhobby, It's only me living here for right now, and retracting the awning every night is a pain in the kiester. The repair was extremely easy and, with Jack's suggestion, I shouldn't have any more problems. The only time I plan to retract the awning is when there's a lot of wind.

Frederic

Wabbiteer 09-03-2007 08:24 AM

With my AS in a state of permanent overhaul I extended the zipdee awning for weeks at a time this summer certain I would not be there to retract it when the rains finally hit. What I did do was lower the tongue jack a couple of inches from level - it worked like a charm, the weight built up enough to lower the downhill edge and automatically dump 6 or 8 gallons at a time as the fabric shifted with the weight build up.

I went out after dark in the rain to attend to it, negotiating the maze to get under the awning, and had it relieve itself as I ducked under the downhill support arm - had I dawdled half a second more I would've been drenched.

I know its not the wisest plan but it sure worked well in this instance... The awning is well protected by buildings, vehicles and another trailer so straightline winds were not an issue.

thecatsandi 09-03-2007 08:26 AM

Have you considered retracting the awning at night?

Inland RV Center, In 09-03-2007 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingrayL82
Jack, I dropped the one side down another two notches, and it worked perfectly. I thought that dropping it one notch would be okay, but this Texas rain comes down quick.

Silverhobby, It's only me living here for right now, and retracting the awning every night is a pain in the kiester. The repair was extremely easy and, with Jack's suggestion, I shouldn't have any more problems. The only time I plan to retract the awning is when there's a lot of wind.

Frederic

Zip Dee has "center supports" that help the awnings strength, especially during a rain storm.

A few people use two of them.

Works great even during a huge down pour.

Andy

Ray Eklund 09-03-2007 11:17 AM

Awning rain/wind adjustments
 
My new 2006 Safari Zip Dee awning needed two people to retract one side. I was tired of appearing to be the 90 pound weakling, so I figured out how to remove the "retractable rod" using the Zip Dee manual in the AS new owners pack. Obviously, while on the dealer's parking lot or trailer show, this bar was bent. So here is my temporary fix while in the Red Desert of Wyoming.

I eye balled the wave (like you check lumber for warps) in the rod and took my 3 pound sledge (for rock hounding) and my 3 foot section of 2x12 that I keep for "fun projects" and began to lightly forge the aluminum rod back to straight (another term for beating the hell out of it). The best I could. On a FLAT surface you can see any irregular waves in the normal straight rod. It now could be adjusted by one person, but I called Zip Dee upon my return and explained my situation. Salesperson JJM said I should not have that kind of problem with a new trailer and in 2006 sent me a "goodwill part". Works perfect now. So you now can temporarily straighten the "main arm bar" part #71300R or L. I should have asked the salesman at the AS dealership why he was having a hard time operating the awning. We newbies learn a lot on those break in trips.

Another spare part to carry is the claw section that latches onto the awning when extended. The original was cracked on the same side of the bent main arm assembly. I keep the new one handy in the event the cracked one finally gives up. With a spare part in tow, it will probably out last me...

StingrayL82 09-03-2007 12:18 PM

I considered it, but what it comes down to is that I am LAZY!!!! LOL!!! It's a real pain in the neck to retract, extend, retract, extend.....I might as well not have the doggone thing. Using Jack's suggestion, I don't think I'll have any more problems. If the wind kicks up bad, I'll retract it.

Frederic

john hd 09-03-2007 12:50 PM

my buddies excella from the 70's has a couple of large brass grommets installed in the center about a foot up from the roller.

they act as drains in case the rain tries to " bathtub " the awning.

i have seen it in action and does work.

i keep mine one notch lower on the back end with good results even in heavy downpours.

john

StingrayL82 09-03-2007 01:03 PM

John, that is a damn good idea! Of course, I wonder if the strength of the awning is affected. About four months ago, I saw a derelict Airstream that had an optional support bar in the middle, which I think is a good idea, but not all of the parts were there, so it was pretty useless to me. I'll call Zip Dee tomorrow and ask the experts their opinions on these questions.

Frederic

john hd 09-03-2007 02:21 PM

frederic

as far a strength goes his awning is 35 years old and still in excellent shape!

calling zip dee is a good idea.

john

S&C2343 04-27-2008 09:35 PM

Well thanks everyone for the laughs on this dumb bent awning! we are looking for three heavy hunks in the kerrville area to help with this proceedure! will take pictures for sure, from a distance. we have those big high arms and can't seem to find the awning saver's to work right on it. we always tie it down and anchor as we have had one awning in one of those Indiana Wind Tunnels (we call them toronadoes) put the awning through the roof. what a hoot that was. it was sunshinning & beautiful and within 20 minutes it blew down 5 barns, knocked out all windows in town. What a ride.
moved our 32' over about 3 feet and all our chairs, lites & etc. was scattered across the road.

will keep you posted.
thanks so for all the info.

richinny 04-28-2008 07:33 AM

we have the center support bar and the awning better be tilted in a downpour even with the bar!

Minnie's Mate 04-28-2008 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richinny
we have the center support bar and the awning better be tilted in a downpour even with the bar!

We've gone through two rear support bars because the awning wasn't tilted enough during a down pour. Now we make sure the rear support is in the lowest natch except when we are using the awning, i.e. sitting under it or dining under it and I have a spare bar under the sofa just in case!

S&C2343 04-30-2008 12:21 AM

what type of vehicle do you tow your trailer?
thanks in advance
sandra

Minnie's Mate 04-30-2008 07:14 AM

Welcome S&C2343. I'm not sure who your question is directed at, so I'll take a shot since my post preceded your's.

I have a 2008 Ford F-250 diesel super crew short bed. This is my second; my first was a 2005. I only traded because I have a back injury that was being aggravated by the seats in the '05 and the '08's were redesigned from the ground up including the front seats. The new truck is my daily driver, as was the '05 and the F-150 that I had before, and it is a pleasure to drive. The '05 was purpose bought as a tow vehicle for our 30' Airstream. I believe the '05 had better highway torque/power than the '08 despite having a slightly smaller engine and definitely got better fuel economy, but the ride in the '08 sure makes up for the difference. Both trucks were Lariat additions rather than the King Ranch because we travel with our two sons and cocker spaniel and needed the bench seat in the back so the dog would have a seat to ride in. We use a dogie seat belt to keep him secured during travel.

Like everyone else here, I'm glade to answer any questions I can.


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