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ROXYCAMPER 04-07-2007 05:07 PM

Gray Window Seal
 
We're New To The Airstream World,and Need A Bit Of Advice. We Couldn't See Through The Windows, So We Took One Apart.they Are The Double Pane Type, We Cleaned Out The Old Tint , And Are Ready To Reassemble, But I Would Like To Replace The Gray Seal Around The Glass. Anyone Know Where To Find This Seal? Any Advice Would Be Greatly Appreciated. Thanks And Look Forward To Chatting Soon !:)

cameront120 04-07-2007 06:52 PM

Try Inland RV

Airstream Innovations at Inland RV Center, Inc. (951) 734-8130

Oh, and welcome to the forums!

ROXYCAMPER 04-08-2007 08:13 AM

Thanks For The Info,i'll Call Them Tomarrow After I Finish Writing My Wish List !:)

Zeppelinium 04-08-2007 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ROXYCAMPER
...We Couldn't See Through The Windows, So We Took One Apart.they Are The Double Pane Type, ...

You don't know it, but you are secret HEROES! Everyone I've talked to so far thinks it's impossible to get those windows apart--the accepted technique is to break the inner window, fix the solar film, then reinstall them as single pane windows.

You have to post a long thread on how you did it!!!!! Please!!!!! Like this morning!!!! :bb:

Zep

ROXYCAMPER 04-08-2007 08:50 AM

Glass Separation Instructions
 
First Thing Is Be Very Patient!!! Drill Out The Riviots Connecting The Window To The Hindge , Slide The Window Out Of Opener Handles. My Window Frame Had 2 1/8" Rivets At The Top And Bottom To Keep The Frame Together Around The Glass. Drill These Out And Very Carefully Pull The Frame Apart And Off The Glass Entirely. Lay The Glass On Something Like A Big Pillow To Support The Center Of The Glass. With A New , Sharp Utility Knife Cut Into The Center Of The 2 Panes. You Will Be Cutting The Soft Putty Sealant .cut At Least 3 Sides , Then Carefully Open The Glass Away From Each Other. Simply Use A Razor Blade Scraper To Remove The Old Tint. I'am Working On A Couple Of Ideas On A Different Way To Reseal The Panes Back Together,i'll Post The Best Way I Find Shortly! I Want To Find The Gray Rubber Seal To Make The Job Perfect. Be Carefull Not To Damage Your Seal, Take It Off The Glass Before Using The Knife!!!

WALLY 54 04-08-2007 11:30 AM

THANK YOU!!!!!!

One question, will the glass be extra bright without the film 'tint' in there to create shade?

Wondering if there is a new film or tint that can be put inbetween...


Please keep us all posted on your progress. And, Thanks again!

Zeppelinium 04-08-2007 11:38 AM

I hadn't gotten around to it, but it looked to me like you could drill those rivets out. Thanks for the second opinion. I'll be doing 6 of these windows on my Sovereign, so I can't wait to see how you seal them back together. I tried plummer's putty a few years ago when I did this kind of maintenance on a vista view--it worked for only about 3 years. The new butyl sealing tape that looks a little like plumber's putty ought to work much better, but it would still be a good idea to have a less maleable rubber or firm foam strip between the glass, and the putty just for a seal.

Yes, the film is available. It's used widely in the west to keep cars cooler and home contents from getting UV damaged. You put it on with water--at least that's the way it went on 20 years ago. There are shops that can do it professionally for you at not too much $$. I'd take the individual glass there so that the film covers the total glass and the edge seal would help prevent it from peeling.

Zep

WALLY 54 04-08-2007 11:57 AM

Thanks Zep.

I'm feeling like our little Buttercup is going to be back in the brilliance, window-wise, in no time here!

I will look into the glass shop idea for cost and suppliers of the film.

ROXYCAMPER you have shed light on -- or should I say 'cleaned the windows' for all the 70's airstreamers out there in A/S-land! It's a new day. :lol::lol::lol:

cameront120 04-08-2007 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WALLY 54
...you have shed light on -- or should I say 'cleaned the windows' for all the 70's airstreamers out there in A/S-land! It's a new day. :lol::lol::lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ROXYCAMPER 04-08-2007 12:03 PM

Wally I'am Going To Try Using An Automotive Tint As Advised By A Professional Installer Of Tint. Have Not Bought Any Yet, But What I Understand Is It Can Be Bought Just About Anywhere. (walmart, Autozone,advance)i'll Let You Know.

ROXYCAMPER 04-08-2007 12:21 PM

Wally, I Forgot To Say, I Think It Would Be Real Bright , So I Think Retinting Would Be A Good Idea! Remember That This Is Not A Quick Thing To Do And Not Break Glass Or Bend Trim!

WALLY 54 04-08-2007 12:54 PM

It has disaster written all over it...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ROXYCAMPER
Wally, I Forgot To Say, I Think It Would Be Real Bright , So I Think Retinting Would Be A Good Idea! Remember That This Is Not A Quick Thing To Do And Not Break Glass Or Bend Trim!

Yes, I know, :nuke:, it could be a catastrophe!

I met a guy a couple of years ago who had the same year trailer as us, a 77, and he said he de-rivited the windows and took them to a window/glass dealer. They had a 'special tool' that separated the window glass. Now, after your clever handiwork is explained, I'm thinkin' 'yeah right'.

When we do this we plan to really taking our time. We have 2 windows, currently, that are not good and 2 vista views that need work, as well. One other has just a tinge of delamination in it, but I think it can wait awhile.

I'll do some research on the tint. I think you're right it is a very good idea.

Please keep us all posted on your progress. We will waiting anxiously!

Joey 73 04-08-2007 06:59 PM

Keep us updated I have a vista view and my two small front windows to do Thanks for the good info.

ROXYCAMPER 04-09-2007 06:37 AM

Iam Going Out Today In Search Of The Gray Seal At Some Local Flat Glass Shops. If Anyone Comes Up With Any Idea's , Let Me Know !!! This Will Speed Things Up And We Will All Begin To See Out Alot Better.

ROXYCAMPER 04-09-2007 05:42 PM

Grey Window Seal Lives
 
:bb: OR SHOULD I SAY IT'S NOT GREY ANYMORE! I WAS ABLE TO ORDER A 100' ROLL OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE SAME SEAL, AVAILABLE ONLY IN BLACK. IT MIGHT TAKE AS LONG AS 2 WEEKS BEFORE I RECEIVE IT. DRAG.... I HAVE THE WINDOW BACK TOGETHER WITH TINT INSTALLED, AND LOOKING VERY GOOD FOR AN AMATEUR!!! :) :) :)

cameront120 04-09-2007 06:34 PM

Of course we're all going to need to see pictures with step-by-step instructions!:bounce:

ROXYCAMPER 04-09-2007 07:03 PM

I'll Make Step By Step Pictures On The Next Window. This One Is Trial And Error. And Besides That My Camera Right Now Is Out On Loan To A Family Member. So For Right Now Iam Waiting On The Roll Of Seal To Come In. I'll Finish This Window And Start Another With Pictures.

Zeppelinium 04-10-2007 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROXYCAMPER
:bb: OR SHOULD I SAY IT'S NOT GREY ANYMORE! I WAS ABLE TO ORDER A 100' ROLL OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE SAME SEAL, AVAILABLE ONLY IN BLACK. IT MIGHT TAKE AS LONG AS 2 WEEKS BEFORE I RECEIVE IT. DRAG.... I HAVE THE WINDOW BACK TOGETHER WITH TINT INSTALLED, AND LOOKING VERY GOOD FOR AN AMATEUR!!! :) :) :)

where did you order it? how much $$? when you get your camera back, can you take a photo of the black stuff cross section? thanks.

Zep

WALLY 54 04-10-2007 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeppelinium
where did you order it? how much $$? when you get your camera back, can you take a photo of the black stuff cross section? thanks.

Zep


YES, YES... all of the above! hee, hee! And the step-by-step, too!

Anxiously waiting... no pressure or anything. :rolleyes:

...

ROXYCAMPER 04-10-2007 02:28 PM

Will Do !!! It Should Be The Same , But Black. I Think It Will Look Fine , There's Only That Very Small Edge Around The Glass That Will Be Seen. 80.00$$$ A Roll 100' C.r. Laurance Co. They Make All The Good Stuff For The Flat Glass Industry. I'll Get Pic's Don't Worry!!! It Will Be Next Week Or Whenever The Seal Comes In. Let Me Check It Out First To Make Sure It Will Work, Then I'll Give You All The Part # Then All You Have To Do Is Go To Your Local Glass Shop And Order It .


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