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Hawk-ination 09-12-2019 10:38 PM

Cure our cold weather anxiety please!
 
Looking for suggestions for favorite destinations to plan ahead for winter trips. Favorite campgrounds, great places to visit, wherever you have been that you want to share.

Above freezing is preferable ;).

Alex AVI 09-13-2019 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawk-ination (Post 2288150)
Looking for suggestions for favorite destinations to plan ahead for winter trips. Favorite campgrounds, great places to visit, wherever you have been that you want to share.

Above freezing is preferable ;).

HAWK - Lake Mead National Recreation Area outskirts of Las Vegas, NV. Winters in Las Vegas are what you make it to be. Snow ski in morning, water ski 2 hrs. later, hike & bike in afternoon, then gamble, eat, & see shows at night. Or any order you want to do them. Only couple hrs. to Death Valley National Park which is best visited in winter. I just posted this thread days ago.

85MH325 09-13-2019 04:03 AM

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Hawk-ination 10-16-2019 05:27 PM

Wow, when I posted this I thought we'd have plenty of time to plan to escape the cold and snowy weather! Little did I know it would hit some with vengeance. Hope you all were ready and winterized before the big storm hit, and hope this isn't a warning to a really rough winter season! On the bright side, how glad will we be when we can escape weather like this with our Airstream this winter!! Still welcome ideas for places to visit though! Thanks!

uncle_bob 10-16-2019 06:13 PM

Hi

Weather is *never* predictable months in advance. Heading south in the winter is generally the best bet. How far south and just where is going into the "that depends" category.

One thing to consider: does "above freezing" mean all nigh long or over a 24 hour period? You change the target area a *lot* based on that call.

Bob

InterBlog 10-20-2019 05:51 AM

Today's high temp in greater Houston will probably hit 90. The overnight low was 76. Is that enough cold-weather cure?!

:blink:

That's abnormally hot, though, and for the next 15 days, highs will average around 75. There are two good windows per year (spring and fall) for seeing southern Texas. This is one of them. Some people wait until even later in the year, but the issue I have with that is that everything turns brown. Right now it's all still green and lush.

InsideOut 10-20-2019 09:38 AM

Here’s a couple interesting trip ideas to chase 70-degrees for a year. Sounds good to me!

Shari :flowers:

Hawk-ination 10-23-2019 04:15 PM

Bob,

My forum name didn’t work out right but it’s supposed to be Hawkeye since we live in Iowa, (and U of Iowa fans, of course).

Anything above 32 degrees in the winter is paradise, so throw a day trip, week trip, ANY trip away from below 32 degrees on this feed and I’ll be your best friend for life!!

Actually, it’s not for just me. This post started from another feed where others were interested in hearing about suggestions on where to travel to.

Throw anything out there, it’s nice to hear your experiences and favorite places to go! Share away, unless you are afraid we’ll take up your spots ;).

If we don’t end up traveling this winter, it’s always fun to look up the pictures and dream about it for another time!!

Thanks!

Caffeinated 10-23-2019 04:23 PM

The high today in Palm Desert CA is 98. Just saying.

Mike

Pahaska 10-23-2019 07:52 PM

The next couple of months are some of our best camping time. We have WBCCI rallies in Sept., Oct., Nov., and December. We start up again in February, March, April, and May. During the summer months, we either head out for cooler country or bide our time.

We do sometimes get freezing nights, but not severe. We just pull our hoses and enjoy the warm interiors. We expect 39 low during our urban rally this week.

The great silver whale is in the driveway, ready to roll in the morning.

uncle_bob 10-24-2019 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawk-ination (Post 2301226)
Bob,

My forum name didnít work out right but itís supposed to be Hawkeye since we live in Iowa, (and U of Iowa fans, of course).

Anything above 32 degrees in the winter is paradise, so throw a day trip, week trip, ANY trip away from below 32 degrees on this feed and Iíll be your best friend for life!!

Actually, itís not for just me. This post started from another feed where others were interested in hearing about suggestions on where to travel to.

Throw anything out there, itís nice to hear your experiences and favorite places to go! Share away, unless you are afraid weíll take up your spots ;).

If we donít end up traveling this winter, itís always fun to look up the pictures and dream about it for another time!!

Thanks!

Hi

We lived in Kansas for a number of years. The answer there in the winter is pretty simple. If it's zero degrees and 60 mph winds this week, wait for next week. It'll be in the 60's :) ( and then back to zero again). Indeed Iowa is a bit closer to Illinois, lived there as well. Not quite as likely to pop to 60 in a couple of days.

The (obvious) gotcha is that you don't have an ocean nearby. Heading south to the gulf coast is the simple answer. It's not a perfect answer, but it's the closest good bet. Indeed catching Kansas on a good day might work, the question would be "will it last through the night?" :)

Bob

ScottP 10-29-2019 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawk-ination (Post 2299009)
Wow, when I posted this I thought we'd have plenty of time to plan to escape the cold and snowy weather! Little did I know it would hit some with vengeance. Hope you all were ready and winterized before the big storm hit, and hope this isn't a warning to a really rough winter season! On the bright side, how glad will we be when we can escape weather like this with our Airstream this winter!! Still welcome ideas for places to visit though! Thanks!



So many places

Pt Reyes CA

Las Cruses NM

Big Bend National Park TX

Baja Loreto Big Sur

uncle_bob 10-29-2019 01:41 PM

Hi

Note to self: Avoid Peter Sinks, Utah as a camping option. It just hit -34.7F there. :) :)

Of course, 250' higher in elevation it only got to zero. Very much a weird micro climate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weath...ld-oozes-east/

Bob

Halford1 10-29-2019 01:48 PM

try coastal areas of Central to South California. Temps stay around 70's in winter.

Pahaska 11-11-2019 06:28 PM

I went into the AI at noon to do some work, wearing just a T-shirt. I heard the wind startup at about 2 PM. I came out at 5 PM at 37 degrees and gusts up to 50 mph. The wind is calmer now, but they are predicting a low of 29 tonight

I have the tank heaters on and a ceramic heater running overnight.

Typical Texas weather.

nateallen80 11-11-2019 09:01 PM

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I went into the AI at noon to do some work, wearing just a T-shirt. I heard the wind startup at about 2 PM. I came out at 5 PM at 37 degrees and gusts up to 50 mph. The wind is calmer now, but they are predicting a low of 29 tonight



I have the tank heaters on and a ceramic heater running overnight.



Typical Texas weather.



Record cold around here (and elsewhere, I know). 29 sounds downright tropical [emoji27]Attachment 356083

Hawk-ination 11-12-2019 03:54 PM

I think our windchill was -8 degrees last night. Lovely.

Halford1 11-12-2019 05:41 PM

once you wear Columbia Sportwear, you would not want to come inside...

Acheron2010 11-12-2019 06:12 PM

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Gonna be 14 tonight. Furnace keeping pace, no problems. I have insulation on the windows and two blankets on the bed. Snug and comfy.
At Cumberland Gap National Historic Park.

uncle_bob 11-13-2019 06:47 AM

Hi

There are pipes that run under the floor of the trailer. At some combination of temperature and time they will indeed freeze. Things like the inlet pressure regulator (if your trailer has one) are vulnerable to this as well.

One interesting thing to watch is the real temperature at the location you are in. The local weather station may not be in the same setting you are in. I have seen 5 degree differences between "my campsite" and the local report in terms of the low. ( = they reported 5 degrees below what I got to).

Since the pipes are *under* the trailer, wind makes a difference. If you pulled into the campsite on a normal fall day, the ground is not frozen. It will keep things warm. (in the spring ... maybe not ...). Running the trailer at 40 inside heats the floor less than having it at 80.

All of this stuff makes it tough to guess just what a "don't go there" temperature actually is.

Bob

Acheron2010 11-14-2019 07:38 AM

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Hi

There are pipes that run under the floor of the trailer. At some combination of temperature and time they will indeed freeze. Things like the inlet pressure regulator (if your trailer has one) are vulnerable to this as well.

Bob

I thought the newer trailers furnace system was ducted in such a manner to keep the under the floor piping and tanks from freezing?

85MH325 11-14-2019 08:08 AM

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I thought the newer trailers furnace system was ducted in such a manner to keep the under the floor piping and tanks from freezing?

From the '19 Flying Cloud owner's manual:

"The furnace on Flying Cloud models, excluding the
20 ft. model, is ducted to provide heat to tanks and
plumbing to prevent freezing."

I had a Bigfoot 25' four-seasons trailer for nine years with the furnace ducted to the tanks. While you'll be fine while parked, I would caveat the owner's manual information with that the furnace will likely not be able to keep up with freezing temps while actually driving. It may do fine while you're parked, but if you're travelling in sub-freezing temps, even with the furnace on, you may experience frozen plumbing; and of course the colder the temps, the greater the odds of your plumbing to freeze.

The only safe way to do extended travel in sub-freezing temperatures is to winterize your plumbing. Any other "solution" may or may not work. And remember, the things most likely to break from freezing are your water pump, faucet bodies, and toilet flush valves. The pex plumbing is pretty tough... those items are quite fragile.

Hawk-ination 11-14-2019 11:57 AM

If only forum words could convey the amount of joking I do, first off...I invite the poster who is from California to come to Iowa at -40 and see if Columbia Sportswear cuts it ;). Second, my post is not for people who are camping IN THE COLD, I want out!!

Ha.... but seriously, keep posting, I actually love seeing what trips your trigger, even if it is cold and snow!
And back to the sportswear, we purchased e-bikes last year and although I have been out snowmobiling, it's the bikes AND the clothing that I have found that keeps me out in the cold the longest so far after living in the midwest cold winters for a long time. Otherwise there's many of us who ditch the warm clothes and just stay inside most of the winter, which actually isn't good for you and it's more fun to be outdoors. Glad there's some of you that brave the cold in your Airstreams! I'm personally looking for warmer adventures but maybe I'll get brave enough to try it some day! Kudos to you! Love to see what you like in life, so keep sharing please!

uncle_bob 11-15-2019 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Acheron2010 (Post 2307883)
I thought the newer trailers furnace system was ducted in such a manner to keep the under the floor piping and tanks from freezing?

Hi

That ducting only works just so well. You do have things like the city water inlet that are hanging out in the air far away from any furnace ducts. There's only so much they can do. Get enough wind going from the wrong direction and things may freeze up faster than you might think .... Are you ok at 10 F? Will you have a problem at 20F? Very much a "that depends" sort of thing.

Having your hot water heater split in half from freezing it going to cost a bit more than the back flow valve on the city water supply. Both will be a bit inconvenient. The odds of the hot water tank freezing when things are turned on and working is near zero.....

Bob

mpsgolf 11-15-2019 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Caffeinated (Post 2301227)
The high today in Palm Desert CA is 98. Just saying.

Mike

Did you feel the recent 3.5 quake just north of Palm Desert?

Last time we were there, we had TWO in the 3-4 range but they were farther north so we didnít het the full quake.

InterBlog 11-16-2019 07:03 AM

Non-random observation:

Birds sing because they have feathers. Joyous warm feathers.

Iím in deep east Texas during this record cold. For us, waking up to 25 - 35 degrees every morning in November is unusual. What saves the day is goose down blankets and clothing, because nothing else can match itís performance. I donít have goose down pants because we have so little need for that kind of investment here (about $200). But Iíve got my jacket and Rumpl. Itís a good thing. With the usual surface area to volume challenge that the Interstate presents, thereís no keeping it warm at or below freezing even with the furnace.


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