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Sport 16 STL 09-05-2019 12:05 PM

for anyone considering a solar generator
 
I have been researching Goal Zero and other brands of solar generator/battery packs. This seems like a great value and i took advantage. Wanted to share in case anyone else has been considering a solar generator.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...or/description

Paprika 09-05-2019 01:11 PM

Just a cautionary note about Kickstarter projects: don't expect delivery on schedule. These kinds of tech projects often ship six months to two years after the promised delivery date. That doesn't mean their promoters are trying to cheat you, but unexpected technical and production snags are par for the course with Kickstarter projects.

In short, if you need a lithium-based powerpack this year, buy a known brand off the shelf. If you absolutely must have a Kickstarter "early bird" bargain, be prepared to wait for it. I've backed a couple dozen Kickstarter projects over the years, and I speak from experience.

Paulinekeogh 10-20-2019 02:41 PM

But how does it operate? Do you hook it up to the Airstream batteries to charge them or do you plug it into the electrical socket on the exterior of the trailer as you would in a campground with hook ups?

uncle_bob 10-20-2019 02:50 PM

Hi

A bit more caution on Kickstarter:

You are fronting these people money. Your "donation" goes out when you hit the button. They may or may not send you anything down the road. If they send you nothing, your ability to get your money back .... not so much ....

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It appears to be no different than other solar to battery to inverter "power packs". Calling them a generator confuses more than it helps.

Bob

pmclemore 10-20-2019 02:52 PM

Vaporware

Pat

Sport 16 STL 10-21-2019 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulinekeogh (Post 2300105)
But how does it operate? Do you hook it up to the Airstream batteries to charge them or do you plug it into the electrical socket on the exterior of the trailer as you would in a campground with hook ups?

It has a built-in mppt solar charger, and a inverter. Some people have integrated similar products, like Goal Zero, into the trailer electrical system. I haven't figured out how to do that so I am initially good to use it for a 110 source while boondocking,
and as a backup it the trailer batteries are depleated. I have a solar suitcase that will recharge the unit. I will also use it at home during power outages.

OTRA15 10-21-2019 10:33 AM

"Goal Zero" search results on this site:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Goal...=airforums.com

https://www.airforums.com/forums/f448...-193642-2.html

Peter

FYI
FWIW

Adventure.AS 10-21-2019 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sport 16 STL (Post 2285272)
I have been researching Goal Zero and other brands of solar generator/battery packs. This seems like a great value and i took advantage. Wanted to share in case anyone else has been considering a solar generator.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...or/description

What is the advantage of a portable battery pack? Why not just solar panels to charge your house battery. If you want more battery capacity put in a larger battery box with two batteries. It is not a 'generator' and will not power very much for very long.

Mollysdad 10-21-2019 11:51 AM

Solar generator, eh?
Sounds like a battery to me.
"Just plug in any solar panel to charge."
"Recharges in two hours and provides 1600 watts of power."
Pardon me if I spit my coffee out at that claim.

DKB_SATX 10-29-2019 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mollysdad (Post 2300367)
Solar generator, eh?
Sounds like a battery to me.
"Just plug in any solar panel to charge."
"Recharges in two hours and provides 1600 watts of power."
Pardon me if I spit my coffee out at that claim.

I DESPISE the deceptive advertising practices of these "entrepreneurs" and "inventors" who market this crap. A generator is a thing. A portable battery pack (with or without solar charging) is also a thing, but a VERY different thing than a generator.

Wayne&Sam 10-29-2019 03:42 PM

I pledged three times on Kickstarter at much lower dollar amounts. One came through, the other two just went away with no explanation. For that much money, I'd be wary.

Wayne&Sam 10-29-2019 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle_bob (Post 2300113)
Your "donation" goes out when you hit the button

No, you're only charged if they hit their goal. Then see my previous post.

gsp 10-30-2019 12:57 AM

Looks like the same exact thing as the bluetti, except that you have to wait to get it.

https://www.maxoak.net/portable-sola...s/show/51.html

You can buy a lot of 100w solar panels for that price though...

DKB_SATX 10-30-2019 09:11 AM

Maybe one could pursue an FTC complaint against con-men purveying a "solar generator" that's neither a generator nor includes any sort of solar panel...

Sport 16 STL 10-30-2019 10:03 AM

Some of the comments are very rigid. When you buy a generator does it come with gas? Is that false advertising if a generator just sits, doesn't generate, until you add gas?
A solar generator is the same. It sits, until you add the panels. The technology on battery storage units are rapidly improving and changing all the time.
I chose to go with a solar unit as I have a small sport 16 and didn't want to mess with the weight, gas storage and transport, and the noise. Maybe try thinking outside of the box.

Shiny16 10-30-2019 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sport 16 STL (Post 2303154)
Some of the comments are very rigid. When you buy a generator does it come with gas? Is that false advertising if a generator just sits, doesn't generate, until you add gas?
A solar generator is the same. It sits, until you add the panels. The technology on battery storage units are rapidly improving and changing all the time.
I chose to go with a solar unit as I have a small sport 16 and didn't want to mess with the weight, gas storage and transport, and the noise. Maybe try thinking outside of the box.

Can you explain the difference between this and a portable battery? Couldn’t you just buy an extra battery and attach a solar panel and charger? Or does this do something I’m missing?

DKB_SATX 10-30-2019 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sport 16 STL (Post 2303154)
Some of the comments are very rigid. When you buy a generator does it come with gas? Is that false advertising if a generator just sits, doesn't generate, until you add gas?
A solar generator is the same. It sits, until you add the panels. The technology on battery storage units are rapidly improving and changing all the time.
I chose to go with a solar unit as I have a small sport 16 and didn't want to mess with the weight, gas storage and transport, and the noise. Maybe try thinking outside of the box.

This is a battery bank with a built-in inverter. It's a very nice battery, but it's still a battery. Words have meanings, that's how language works. I'm not saying this is useless, I'm saying it's NOT A GENERATOR.
Generator: a dynamo or similar machine for converting mechanical energy into electricity.
There's a difference between "thinking outside the box" and "not thinking at all." I have a portable solar setup, and I use it instead of a generator whenever it's practical to do so. I prefer it because it's silent and clean, but I don't call it a generator.

Airabel 11-01-2019 11:15 AM

We've had a Goal Zero Yeti 400 for several years and love it. It's basically a AGM battery with several options for recharging electronics, monitoring what's being charged, and recharging the generator. We use it while boondocking to run led lights, satillite radio, and tv.

drbrick 11-27-2019 01:23 PM

For great info on solar generators go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBYjEK-HK4

Sport 16 STL 11-28-2019 10:56 AM

For those with a solar battery, wouldn't dare use generator even if the solar panels generate power to charge the battery.
How do you integrate it in your trailer if trailer battery is low?
I am thinking of adding a 12 volt lighter plug, to run lights etc.


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