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KlausWessel 08-04-2019 01:35 PM

Togo roadlink C2
 
Hi together.

Has anybody already installed the Togo Roadlink System on an Airstream Travel Trailer?

What DC Connection do work?

Does the Router Signal penetrate the Alu Skin ?

Thank you

Klaus

TeamKomar 09-04-2019 06:58 PM

Togo Roadlink - ATT
 
I see this thread has been up since Feb 2018, has nobody had any experience to share? We are very interested as well.

Thanks!

GeeSag 09-26-2019 11:55 AM

Has Anyone got ToGo working on their Airstream?
 
Another 22 days has gone buy since last post and no replies.

I am also wondering if anyone has got ToGo Working with their Airstream.

TerryHHI 09-26-2019 03:19 PM

We are picking our first Airstream next Wednesday. It is a 2020 Serenity 30 RBQ. The dealer is installing the TOGO system for us. Everything I’ve read on other forums sounds positive. I’ll let you know how it works after we get it up and running.

EKB847 09-29-2019 05:26 AM

What is the best way to install the ToGo?

Has anyone tried to install one without drilling holes in the roof? Could it be attached to the roof with adhesive?

GeeSag 09-29-2019 12:59 PM

ToGo on a pole
 
Hey Kelly:

I plan to put the ToGo on a pole.

I am not sure how the ToGo will transmit WiFi through the Sky Light / Windows.
But willing to experiment.

One huge benefit:
It only weighs about 4 lbs.
So, up on a pole, all I have to run is 12 volt. (and maybe three guy wires)

Benefit: It avoids all the feedback problems of Amplifiers with an internal and external antenna on the same frequencies.

Put the LTE Modem up as High as possible.
Get all the benefits of 2x2 MIMO.
Get all the benefits of "unlimited" data.

Worth a try.

Kelly,
Since you are on this thread, maybe you have good input over on the "Weboost Question" thread.
I value your input.

GeeSag 09-29-2019 01:02 PM

Welding bracket
 
Oh,
Did I mention:
Welding an aluminum bracket to securely mount the ToGo to the pole!

GeeSag 09-29-2019 01:17 PM

Category 4 Modem
 
For those following this Thread:

Definitely be cautious about drilling holes in your Airstream for a Category 4 LTE modem.

With Category 16 / 18 modems already on the market, and more to come.
Be a bit cautious about permanently installing anything that is already old technology.

What is the big difference between Category 4 and Category 16/18, and what does it mean to us Airstreamers

Carrier Aggregation.

Want Throughput: Then aggregate multiple carriers when possible.
By Carriers, we do not mean aggregate AT&T and VzW, we mean aggregate 700, plus AWS/PCS.

Throughput speeds take advantage of multiple carriers on the same VzW or AT&T network.

Only works if you have a good LTE coverage to begin with. Typically provides no benefit in rural areas where AWS and PCS are distance limited and not getting to the campground in the first place.

Anyone know if Carrier aggregation between 700 and 850 is available yet?

Tkalb2 09-29-2019 05:29 PM

My wife and I recently purchased our first airstream. This is exactly the same idea I had to avoid drilling into the roof of the airstream. I'm excited to see how you make out and if you've been able to install yours.

EKB847 09-30-2019 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeSag (Post 2293801)
Definitely be cautious about drilling holes in your Airstream for a Category 4 LTE modem.

You make a good point. I went to Mobile Internet Resource Center and found where they discussed the Category 4 issue. That may be the ToGo killer for me. I will have to wait and see what others experience before I buy it. Isn't it strange that more people are not telling their experience with the Togo?

turk123 09-30-2019 08:34 AM

The TOGO system is based on the same type of installation that Airstream is using for their connect system. The TOGO puts the router on the roof in the "round box". All you have to supply is the 12v power.

On a pole??? This thing is like 18" around! MIMO antennas work fine at 9 feet up. I'm not sure you will gain anything.

The ATT account is the same as the Airstream account. The TOGO uses a wireless router that only fault is the 2.4 Ghz radio. Why manufacturers keep slowing these things down is beyond me.

I have the connect system in my Classic and you should not worry about getting a WiFi signal through the skin of the trailer. Many of us have added a second router (5 Ghz) to the Peplink modem to improve speeds. My $17 router transmits 100 feet outside my trailer with no problems at all.

Inside the TOGO "box" is a circuit board that has a LAN connection that you could actually add a duel band router to. It could just sit in the box on the roof. The 5 Ghz band would give you twice the speed as the 2.4 Ghz. The 2.4 Ghz will travel further, but heck, you would be very close most of the time.

The TOGO is a winner in my opinion even though it is not an industrial strength modem like the Peplink. And as we learned about the Peplink, it is not on the leading edge of technology either. But they work very very well in this environment. It also is a fraction of the cost of the Airstream solution.

GeeSag 10-01-2019 02:59 AM

Trying to avoid drilling holes
 
My focus is to not drill holes for technology that is changing so rapidly.

The Tripod is only 12 feet, so for all practical purposes about the same as the 9 feet on top of the roof, so negligible benefit.

And the tripod is a hassle versus something permanently installed.

Tripod starts to shine when using Directional antenna.

I see the ToGo as fairly short lived based on the changing technology.

GeeSag 10-01-2019 04:02 AM

ToGo to get the AT&T Plan
 
I probably would not of bought the ToGo, if I could of gotten the AT&T $360 per year unlimited on a Nighthawk.

Getting the WiFI router was a plus for the ToGo. Maybe that is what pushed me over the edge to buy it.

Being able to get a WiFi higher up outside of the trailer for Campground WiFi as WAN seems attractive. Pulling in remote WiFi inside the trailer has been more miss than hit.

I would prefer the ToGo to use 2.4 GHz as WAN and 5.8 for local, but that is wishful thinking.

TerryHHI 10-02-2019 02:37 PM

I’ve been connected to our new TOGO Internet access for about 2 hours and here’s what I know so far.

Install was done by North Trails RV. Tech that installed said he used butyl tape and screws. He said butyl tape would have probably been enough.

App and connecting was not bad but not great. The app is a little clunky and not too intuitive. But it is functional. Make sure you get the number on the SIM card. You will need them to setup service with ATT.

The ATT online portion was easy. Input the ICC and SIM numbers. Give them $360 and that’s about it.

Then back to TOGO app and connect to network. 30 minutes or so to fumble around getting all the numbers and working through the app. And then it worked.

Inside speed are consistently 14 mbps up and down. We are in Fort Myers and my ATT phone has 2 bars of coverage.

So far, I’m thrilled with TOGO.

EKB847 10-02-2019 03:11 PM

ToGo
 
TerryHHI

That is great throughput. Now would be a great time for a road test. :wally:

Any chance you could post pictures of the install?

TerryHHI 10-02-2019 03:41 PM

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This is the side view of the install. Not much to see. Only an on/off rocker switch by the TV.

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albizu 10-02-2019 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryHHI (Post 2294849)
I’ve been connected to our new TOGO Internet access for about 2 hours and here’s what I know so far.

Install was done by North Trails RV. Tech that installed said he used butyl tape and screws. He said butyl tape would have probably been enough.

App and connecting was not bad but not great. The app is a little clunky and not too intuitive. But it is functional. Make sure you get the number on the SIM card. You will need them to setup service with ATT.

The ATT online portion was easy. Input the ICC and SIM numbers. Give them $360 and that’s about it.

Then back to TOGO app and connect to network. 30 minutes or so to fumble around getting all the numbers and working through the app. And then it worked.

Inside speed are consistently 14 mbps up and down. We are in Fort Myers and my ATT phone has 2 bars of coverage.

So far, I’m thrilled with TOGO.

Thanks for this Terry. Quick question. If you can share, how much was the total cost including installation? Also, I’m assuming that the only instal inside was a switch? Can you share a picture of what it looks like installed?

Thanks!!

GeeSag 10-02-2019 06:27 PM

The Bottom is not Flat
 
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For those considering adhesive,
See photo below.

The bottom is not flat.

Let me re-phrase that: It is flat, but made up of a series of ridges for structural integrity, so the tops of the ridges form a flat surface, but there is not much bonding surface for adhesive mount.

GeeSag 10-02-2019 06:47 PM

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She wants To Go.


Or just any square or circle on the floor must be sat upon........After all,
that is the code of the cat.

GeeSag 10-02-2019 07:15 PM

No RSRP
 
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Here is first bit that I find interesting. (See Screen Shot)

I would expect to see RSRP, SINR, and RSRQ, Because I like those sort of things.

I guess I have been demoted from geek cubed back to geek squared (for those that have been reading the thread WeBoost Question)

See attached what it shows for LTE Signal Strength.

48%

What's that?

GeeSag 10-02-2019 07:21 PM

Anyone know the default Password?
 
Does anyone know the default password to log in via a web browser.
The default IP address is 10.11.12.1
and it comes up with login
default user: admin
which I would expect.

But does anyone know the default password for the web access? Please send it in private message.
The Manula is lacking the level of detail.
Surely, and Hopefully, they have not got us locked out of seeing the WiFi side of our own router.


I am hoping to see RSRP and SINR over on a web guy portal.

Remember: Hope is a strategy!

TerryHHI 10-02-2019 07:47 PM

Total cost for hardware and install was $695.

Iíll post a picture of switch tomorrow.

GeeSag 10-02-2019 08:06 PM

Interesting ToGo Challange: Too Many Redirects
 
Here is an interesting thing to report about ToGo.

When I use ToGo on either my Macbook or windows PC,
and I go to AirForums.Com
and then try to login,

I get into a "Redirect" problem.
Happens on both PC and MAC.

But then I go back to Centurylink DSL (WiFi), and I can log into airforums.com just fine.

And it is repeatable: When using ToGo WiFI to PC and MAC, and ToGO is LTE as WAN,
I get too many redirects on attmpting to log into airforums.com.
But then I swtich PC or Mac over to use Centurylink WiFi and I connect just fine.

Can anyone on Airforums, explain too many redirects?


I did the Safari: System > Preferences > Privacy > Cookies > Manage Data > Remove All.....still same result.

And yet when I repeat and go back to Centurylink DSL (WiFI), I can can log into airfourms just fine.

While on ToGO, I can surf and get various articles on Wall street Journal to verify I am getting valid internet access.

Just too many redirects problem on ToGo PC or Mac thru ToGo out through AT&T LTE.

Any Help Please?

GeeSag 10-02-2019 08:42 PM

Scary WiFi WPS WPA2 ---- No Password
 
This is scary: No password needed to join.

The ToGo is set up for WPA2.

And as part of WPS allowing auto-join without a password if a user pushes a WPS button on the WiFi access point, all is fine.

Except:

There is not button to push on the ToGO.

Then why did my MacBook connect via WiFi to the ToGO and not ask fo a password?

My iPhone and my PC both required I enter the WiFI Password.

But the MacBook did not.

Sort of scary.

Maybe someone in air forums can better explain all the cool new capabilities of WPS and auto-join that allows devices to auto join without pushing anything on the wifi access point and not entering a password.

Sort of what is the point of WPS WPA2 if it is wide open for auto join.

Maybe there is a setting I need to toggle in the ToGo.

Any Help would be appreciated.

wulfraat 10-02-2019 09:17 PM

Togo roadlink C2
 
Togo looks like an interesting option. I am curious about real world speeds everyone is seeing in the wild? Itís great that the plan has no hard caps or throttles, and is only subject to network management at times of tower congestion.

Itís unfortunate though that itís based on quite outdated category 4 cellular modem hardware with limited band coverage and no carrier aggregation.

Iím still on my Verizon prepaid unlimited $65 / mo plan with the same uncapped / unthrottled usage with network management... this plan was only offered for a brief period in late 2018 / early 2019 before being discontinued and I am one of the lucky few who got in on it..... the advantage is that the plan is not locked to a device and can be leveraged on the very latest category 18 modem (inseego 8800) with broad spectrum support, carrier aggregation, 4x4 MIMO antenna system all combined to deliver up to about 70Mbps download speeds out in the wild....

TerryHHI 10-03-2019 05:43 AM

This morning in Fort Myers we are getting 18 mbps download and 10 up with TOGO. Accessing web feels just like home. I imagine if we were pushing up big files we would notice slower speeds. We donít push big files so isnít an issue.

Streamed Netflix last night with no lag or buffering.

Still impressed with TOGO. We are headed to Cedar Key tomorrow. We will see what happens in a rural situation.

turk123 10-03-2019 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeSag (Post 2294981)
This is scary: No password needed to join.

The ToGo is set up for WPA2.

And as part of WPS allowing auto-join without a password if a user pushes a WPS button on the WiFi access point, all is fine.

Except:

There is not button to push on the ToGO.

Then why did my MacBook connect via WiFi to the ToGO and not ask fo a password?

My iPhone and my PC both required I enter the WiFI Password.

But the MacBook did not.

Sort of scary.

Maybe someone in air forums can better explain all the cool new capabilities of WPS and auto-join that allows devices to auto join without pushing anything on the wifi access point and not entering a password.

Sort of what is the point of WPS WPA2 if it is wide open for auto join.

Maybe there is a setting I need to toggle in the ToGo.

Any Help would be appreciated.

I understand that the TOGO's router is completely software accessible. If that is true, log into the router and check to see if the "Guest" access is turned on from the factory. You can shut it off. I would also shut off WiFi as WAN if that is turned on. Just like the Airstream installation, and the Peplink modem, this may have that turned on from the start. WiFi as WAN polls the area you are in looking for wifi signals. If you get into a campground that has campers with hotspots, it will check every one. The Peplink does this every two seconds not something you want happening while streaming Netflix. It can cause a ten-fold reduction in bandwidth.

Some modems offer WiFi as WAN with a 30-second search interval. That makes them less noticeable and less hit is taken on the speed. Best to turn it off. Campground WiFi never works anyway.

TerryHHI 10-03-2019 06:56 AM

The TOGO manual and app act like you make a choice between ATT data or WiFi. The apps makes you select one or the other and then connects to the selected source. The app then shows you the source. I donít believe thereís a way to combine or aggregate connectivity.

I havenít tried WiFi yet because it isnít available where we are staying.

GeeSag 10-03-2019 04:42 PM

ToGo on a PoGo
 
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Here are a couple screen shots of ToGo on a PoGo (i.e. pole)

I am getting 17 meg down inside the trailer at 6:00 pm Thursday night in the Raleigh Durham area, so I expect the network is somewhat congested this time of night.

The 17 meg is based on the ToGo App speed test, not my PC speed test.

Notice: it only shows download, not upload in the app speedtest.

ToGo will not allow log in via the web Browser GUI. if you put in 10.11.12.1, it brings up the web brouser GUI interface with login auto-populated with admin, but I do not know the password.

I emailed Winegard tech support. They were clear: ToGo is phone app only. Not Web access for end users. They are not giving out the password. They were clear on that.

It also accepts SSH, but without a password, a login prompt to the SSH connection was as far as I got.

No response to Telnet.

The ToGo is AMAZINGLY Light.....it is a plastic shell filled with air.
I was shocked how light it was.
I am not worried about the pole at all.


And for all the naysayers out there, I do have Guy Wires.

GeeSag 10-03-2019 06:39 PM

17 meg down 12 meg up 150 feet away
 
So the WiFi off Togo appears to be strong.

I am sitting in the house 150 feet away from the ToGo outside in a carport.

The house has Aluminum siding, (Think Tin-Man Movie)

So WiFi Penetration from there to here is fairly amazing.

And add to that the ToGo is sitting medium height next to the side of the Airstream, the Airstream is also blocking direct line of sight.

Definitely a plus one for ToGo WiFi when using LTE WAN

nryn 10-03-2019 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeSag (Post 2294981)

Then why did my MacBook connect via WiFi to the ToGO and not ask fo a password?



My iPhone and my PC both required I enter the WiFI Password.



But the MacBook did not.



This behavior has nothing to do with your ToGo equipment. Assuming your iPhone and your MacBook use the same AppleID, after your phone is connected to a network, your other devices will all automatically have the password to that network (presumably via Keychain). This feature debuted 3-4 years ago I think.

Hope that helps.

GeeSag 10-03-2019 08:14 PM

No Visibility to who is connected
 
Thanks nryn.
Yeah one of my coworkers explained to me today also about the Apple devices sharing the same id.

At first it was shocking to expect to be requested a WiFi Password and not get requested.


This does point to one "Feature" of the ToGo that I do not like: The lack of seeing any real data on the ToGo, such as the list of devices currently connected.

The data shown in the App for ToGo I would rate as "Abysmal" in terms of what I would expect from any WiFi / LTE Modem.

I guess AT&T feels the user does not need to see any of that data.

TerryHHI 10-04-2019 03:30 PM

TOGO report. We had internet issues during the drive from Fort Myers to Cedar Key, FL. For some unknown reason we could see the TOGO unit but could not connect to Internet.

Once we arrived in Cedar Key everything started working and speeds are great - 27 mbps down and 7 up.

daleyocum 10-04-2019 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryHHI (Post 2295482)
TOGO report. We had internet issues during the drive from Fort Myers to Cedar Key, FL. For some unknown reason we could see the TOGO unit but could not connect to Internet.

Once we arrived in Cedar Key everything started working and speeds are great - 27 mbps down and 7 up.

That makes sense if there wasn't AT&T service on the drive. The Togo has a router inside it so you'd always be able to see it even if it can't connect to the internet.

GeeSag 10-07-2019 06:21 PM

Does ToGo support UMTS HSPA?
 
I will be monitoring connectivity as we drive.

I suspect the ToGo does not support UMTS HSPA (In other words 3G or AT&T's first attempt at 4G before LTE)

The NightHawk and the AT&T "Wireless Internet" Device do appear to support UMTS.

I had the AT&T Wireless internet device on a recent drive in Appalachia and was noticing how many times it switched from LTE to UMTS.

So I suspect the Nighthawk / Wireless Internet Devices would allow connectivity in these remote areas while the ToGo probably would not.

The RVMobileInternet indicates the ToGo to support UMTS HSPA, but the actual product from Winegard makes no mention of supporting it on the product documentation.

Does anyone know if ToGo does support UMTS HSPA? (alias pre-LTE high speed packet data access)

My Thoughts are: if a person can live with the limited data plans of the NightHawk or the Wireless Internet Device, then they are a superior product in several ways.

P.S. I agree with Chris & Cherie: Wireless Internet is about as bad a product name as ever.

Tkalb2 10-09-2019 06:10 PM

GeeSag do you mind sharing the Info on mounting bracket you used for your Togo? I’m thinking about a similar mount on my weboost antenna pole.

daleyocum 10-09-2019 06:35 PM

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I used these brackets from McMaster along with VHB tape and Silkaflex to mount mine. Given the speed technology in this area is moving I didn't want to drill holes to mount it. Sadly these only come in 3/8" bolt size so you have to drill out the hole on the Togo. It takes a 1" 3/8-16 stainless bolt and two stainless washers for each hole.

GeeSag 10-09-2019 07:13 PM

Aluminum Angle Bracket
 
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My bracket is
Two pieces of 1 inch aluminum angle to match the bolt holes on the ToGo
One piece of 2 inch aluminum angle to cross brace
One 2 inch flat to extend the 2" angle to provide enough vertical separation of the U-Bolts to get the U-Bolts low enough on the Pole to avoid them being right at the very top. This also keeps the pole slightly off the bottom of the ToGo when mounted to avoid any pressure on the center of the ToGo.

Two Antenna Mast Bolts to match the inch and a half pipe diameter.

A little welding, drilling and painting
And, Oh, did I mention and a little lack of patience.
In terms of not waiting a full 24 hours for the Paint to cure.......Dry to Touch means Dry to Test, doesn't it!

Tkalb2 10-10-2019 04:21 AM

Awesome thanks for the ideas.

EKB847 10-10-2019 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleyocum (Post 2296894)
”Given the speed technology in this area is moving I didn't want to drill holes to mount it. Sadly these only come in 3/8" bolt size so you have to drill out the hole on the Togo.

Nice install.

I found a link to these as a possible “no holes” mount alternative. Still not perfect because the ToGo floats above the roof instead of being flush mounted, but getting there.

https://rvsolarstore.com/index.php?r...product_id=112

GeeSag 10-14-2019 08:48 PM

Update on ToGo
 
Here is an Update on ToGo performance
Location: TCPC Airstream Campground, Tennessee

Perfect place to test ToGo, WeBoost, MiFi, Yagi, MIMO, OTR Omni
Both AT&T and Verizon have relatively bad cell coverage signal strength.

ToGo was able to get 4 Meg down and 1 meg Up
on a reasonably consistent basis on the Tripod 12 feet in the air.

Dropped tripod down to 5 feet at night time and tripod was between tongue of trailer and truck.......ToGo lost LTE connection at this height.

ToGo reported LTE signal strength of 28 to 32% at the 12 feet. So probably fairly bad cell coverage.

Verizon MiFi reported RSRP -114 dBm outside, and when inside on WeBoost would allow extremely slow Web pages, Not usable.....too slow....too slow for even a speedtest to complete.

ToGo up 25 feet in the air on a flag pole made no difference in the download speed. and increased the upload by about 1/2 meg.

Rotating the ToGo 90 degrees up on the flagpole showed the dependence on direction......Upload dropped in half when turned 90 degrees. So for all the screwed down mounted ToGo's, direction might make a difference in tough coverage areas.

Putting ToGo inside right next to the indoor WeBoost antenna had good improvment to the uplink and bad for the downlink......The uplink doubled to 2 meg compared to the 12 foot pole. Downlink was cut in half down from 4 meg to 2 meg.

GeeSag 10-14-2019 08:59 PM

Pictures
 
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Here are a few pictures

daleyocum 10-15-2019 12:53 AM

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Interesting and encouraging results!

I had a really hard time getting my AT&T data account. The banks for four different credit cards determined it must be fraud. Not sure why, maybe because my physical and bill-to addresses are different. In the end I had to stay on the phone to my credit card companyís Tier 3 support while they turned off all fraud detection and watched the $360 charge come through and then turn fraud detection back on.

Also note that youíll need the number off the SIM card in the Togo to register it so get that before you climb on the roof!

Finally you must connect to the Togo using their app while that Togo it connected to the internet through WiFi in order to register it. I set up a iPhone hotspot to do this.

By far the most time consuming registration process Iíve seen. Follow the instructions to the T. Once setup it seems great.

By the way, hereís a photo of thatís inside that dome.

GeeSag 10-15-2019 09:40 AM

Similar Credit Card Fraud Blockage
 
Thanks Daleyocum

I had similar Credit Card Fraud blockage......It took me a few minumtes to figure out to answer the Creditcard email everything was OK in time to get the AT&T to respond.

Thanks for the Picture of the Cover Off.

This makes me question my results of the "Rotate 90 degess" and the drop in the uplink. Maybe I should try a rotate 45 degrees in succession and re-measure. With the two antenna at 90 degrees, I am not sure why rotating 90 had much effect in my case. I can see where rotating 45 might make a bigger difference.

As far as getting the ICCID and the IMEI for registering with AT&T, the phone app showed those under "About" which kept me from have to go back to look at the SIM card.


The picture also makes it clear that this unit will not last long due to corrozion.
Does not appear to be hermetically sealed. I have concerns about 70 mile per hour rain making its way up into the enclosure from those bottom holes.
The thin clear plastic bottom cover does not seem to provie much in the way of sealing.

I am guessing at how long these units last.
Based on other historical electronics in this telcom sector: To expect much more than 5 years of useful life is probably a reasonable upper limit.
Due to the lack of sealing, and corrosion suspicions, I am hoping for more than one year, so somewhere between 1 and 5.
If it is 1 year, then the $399 plus the $360 starts to not look quite as attractive as the Newer generation ATT Wireless Internet Device $199+ $60/month for 50 meg, (Requiring 2 year contract.) $199 + $720 for first year. ($860 versus $920, and the 920 gets a much newer modem.)
We can also compare the NightHawk, $249 + $50 per month prepay at 10G, but 10G is not like "Un-limited"

GeeSag 10-15-2019 06:17 PM

One Vertical, One Horizontal
 
One interesting point:
From Dale's photo:
One LTE antenna is vertical and one is Horizontal.
So rotating 90 degrees or 45 degrees probably really makes no difference.


Interenting that cell tower would be Plus and Minus 45 degrees, and the ToGO is vertical and horizontal, for whatever that is worth relative to matching polarization, and if it actually makes any real world diference.

daleyocum 10-16-2019 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeSag (Post 2294956)
Does anyone know the default password to log in via a web browser.
The default IP address is 10.11.12.1
and it comes up with login
default user: admin
which I would expect.

But does anyone know the default password for the web access? Please send it in private message.
The Manula is lacking the level of detail.
Surely, and Hopefully, they have not got us locked out of seeing the WiFi side of our own router.


I am hoping to see RSRP and SINR over on a web guy portal.

Remember: Hope is a strategy!

I had this same issue of it asking me for an admin password that’s not in the manual. Called tech support. The answer I got is they want you to use the QR code on the manual. Only one device can be the admin device at a time oddly. I started out with my tablet and then wanted to log in to the admin interface with my phone. Turns out I had to go to my tablet and tell it, through the Winegard app, to forget my Togo and then go to the phone and scan the QR code and register that device. You can’t be connected to the Togo when you do this. Crazy! I’d suggest taking a picture of your manual’s QR code and other relevant data should you ever loose the manual.

RV2019 10-22-2019 01:27 PM

Turk123
So Dalyocum posted a photo of the inside of the ToGo. What brand and model modem would you add internally and where would you place the modem? If above the circuit board would that interfere with the antennas or would the circuit board interfere with the signal traveling down to inside the RV?

And what is there to gain other than speed from the 5Ghz wireless? Can the wireless aspect of the ToGo be turned off?

daleyocum 10-22-2019 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RV2019 (Post 2300807)
Turk123
So Dalyocum posted a photo of the inside of the ToGo. What brand and model modem would you add internally and where would you place the modem? If above the circuit board would that interfere with the antennas or would the circuit board interfere with the signal traveling down to inside the RV?

And what is there to gain other than speed from the 5Ghz wireless? Can the wireless aspect of the ToGo be turned off?

The idea of a Togo is it's a one piece solution. It includes the 4G radio, a router, and a 2.4Ghz WiFi radio all integrated. You wouldn't typically add anything more to it. It is bound to AT&T and the special, truly unlimited but subject to network management, plan that goes with it.

I'm using it instead of my WiFi Ranger router and hotspot.

The 2.4Ghz part may seem surprising but they selected that so that the signal would have no difficulty going through the skin of the trailer and would also go a goodly distance around the campsite. So far it seems to work fine. You wouldn't gain speed in most cases by going to 5Ghz as the limiting factor is the 4G speed.

It's not the most high tech of 4G receivers as it doesn't include the most recent bands. Not sure how much difference that will make in practice.

It does include an ethernet port under the dome (unsupported officially) which you might be able to connect to equipment inside your rig if that was important to you, a 5Ghz router for example. Again this isn't supported so I don't know if it actually works.

RV2019 10-22-2019 06:12 PM

Dalyocum
Turk123 suggested in an earlier post (page 1) that a router could be added inside the Togo.

I've read elsewhere that the 5Ghz would provide a faster internet speed as the 2.4 limits it. It was specifically mentioned with the original system with peplink where adding a 5Ghz modem increased internet speed. So I thought a 5Ghz would help here too. Surely 5Ghz could penetrate and be available inside along with close by outside.

My second question was about turning Wifi off on the ToGo. This would prevent broadcasting it's existence and only allow setup (linking to campground, etc. wifi) through the wired secondary router. Not sure if that is necessary or important.

daleyocum 10-22-2019 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RV2019 (Post 2300910)
Dalyocum
Turk123 suggested in an earlier post (page 1) that a router could be added inside the Togo.

I've read elsewhere that the 5Ghz would provide a faster internet speed as the 2.4 limits it. It was specifically mentioned with the original system with peplink where adding a 5Ghz modem increased internet speed. So I thought a 5Ghz would help here too. Surely 5Ghz could penetrate and be available inside along with close by outside.

My second question was about turning Wifi off on the ToGo. This would prevent broadcasting it's existence and only allow setup (linking to campground, etc. wifi) through the wired secondary router. Not sure if that is necessary or important.

I am dubious that 5Ghz would increase speed in most situations unless there was extreme congestion on the 2.4Ghz band. The Togo uses 2.4Ghz 802.11n so that speed is rated at 74mbs with no congestion. I'm not sure if the Togo is MIMO on 802.11n where it is using multiple channels to go even faster. Most of the time I'm seeing 4G speeds in the 2Mbs-20Mbs range so the WiFi isn't the limiting factor.

5Ghz would be faster for device to device communication within the RV but that would only come into play if you had a server or were doing significant computer to computer data transfers.

Not sure if you can turn off the WiFi, I haven't tried. If nothing is connected to it, though, and if you were using 5Ghz anyway it wouldn't matter.

GeeSag 10-23-2019 12:09 AM

5 GHz had more to do with Peplink than 2.4 versus 5 GHZ
 
I thought the advantage of adding the second WiFi router to the Airstream Connect had more to do with limitations of the Peplink router than with 5 GHz versus 2.4 GHz.

I thought the early findings by Turk123 had to do with the CPU on the Peplink is limited, and it is polling both the WiFi-as-WAN and polling WiFi-as-LAN, and with the limited CPU of the Peplink, this was limiting the throughput.

Maybe Turk123 can correct me if I am wrong.

It did not have as much to do with 5 GHz WiFi allows faster speeds than 2.4 GHZ.
It had to do with the Peplink was limiting throughput by polling both WiFi-as-WAN and WiFi-as LAN.

And adding the second modem allows to use WiFi-as-WAN in campgrounds that have good WiFi, and use the second WiFi router for the internal re-broadcast. Thus eliminating the Peplink from trying to process two different WiFi at the same time.

And when using LTE as the source in Airstream connect, the Peplink was still polling the WiFi-as-WAN side of the Peplink router unless WiFi-as-WAN was disabled.
So adding the second router doubled the speed by removing the Peplink trying to process two different WiFi (WAN and LAN)


Is Peplink also a category 4 LTE modem? ToGo is apparently. So with Category 4, it does not allow carrier aggregation. So the speeds through a LTE network are going to be limited to single carrier. So the advantages of 5 GHz WiFi being faster than 2.4 GHz WiFi becomes less an issue.
When using WiFi-as-WAN in a campground, it will often need to be 2.4 GHz to get the distance to the campground access point. So adding 5GHz inside the trailer does not add much to the throughput if still limited by either 2.4 GHz WAN or LTE WAN.

The ďdoubling of SpeedsĒ that Turk123 was referencing was based on avoiding the limitations of the Peplink trying to process both WAN and LAN, and not so much to do with 5GHz versus 2.4 GHz WiFi.

I look forward to being corrected.

turk123 10-23-2019 07:48 AM

Hi guys! I have relatively no experience with the ToGo as I own the Airstream connect system and have done extensive testing of it. The Peplink modem had a maximum "speed" of 24MB down with its 2.4 GHz radio. Seeing numbers like 20 Mb down with the ToGo leads me to believe that it is a similar radio.

We more than doubled the bandwidth by using a second 5 Ghz router connected to the Peplink. I've had 65 MB down and 34 up at some locations, so the second 5 Ghz router worked very well with this system.

I understand you can access the router software with the ToGo. That is something Airstream locked up in our system. If Togo has WiFi as WAN turned on to also access campground WiFi, I would definitely try turning it off. All modems (even the more expensive ones) suffer from this feature turned on when in a rich environment with many hotspots available for it to check as in a campground. It checks them all and in the case of the Peplink, it does it every 2 seconds bringing the modem to its knees. There is only one frequency in the ToGo (like the Peplink) so the signal is shared slowing the cellular connection.

I'm not an expert at putting radio antennas together and not sure there would be a problem adding the second router right to the ToGo "box". I do not believe it would interfere and it would be simple to test. I do know that there will be no problem getting a signal from the 5 GHz radio inside the trailer. My second router IN the trailer travels for 75 feet all around the outside of the trailer with very little signal loss. Besides, you want to use the signal outside the trailer also.

Of course, you could run a cable down into the trailer and mount the second router there. To me, it just doesn't make sense. To reset the routers, I would add a switch to the 12v power running to the ToGo so you can take all power away from both to reset or restart.

The circuit board has an ethernet port right on it that is undocumented in the manual. It does work fine. You could start by connecting an Ethernet cable to the port and to your computer. Once connected, see what speed you get. That is what you will achieve by adding the 5 GHz second wireless router. That is how the second router idea was born on the Airstream Connect system, a direct connect.

GeeSag 10-23-2019 07:51 AM

Of course this is ToGo Thread
 
Of course this is a ToGo thread and not a Peplink thread, but the above comments about 5 GHz versus 2.4 GHz probably apply to ToGo as well.



And if anyone is able to use the internal ethernet port inside the ToGo, please let us all know how you are using it.


And I am curious about if adding a second WiFi router to ToGo doubles the speed similar to the problems found with Airstream Connect.

So if anyone does get that ethernet port working, we are very interested.


I have been reluctant to open the case for fear of voiding warranty.

And having already to of shipped back the first ToGo, I am not looking to try to void warranty. (Of course that first return was more to do with the vendor on Amazon shipping a used unit as new that could not be registered, but it did have some small part rattling around inside that had the familiar sound of a surface mount component having come loose)

RV2019 10-23-2019 08:41 AM

On the airstream connect the extra modem increased the speed up and down. Does that help with a weak cellular connection? Let say 1 bar signal gets 2mbps using the internal radio, would you get more mbps using the 5 Ghz? I assume the 2mbps would be a combination of low signal and the reduced flow thru with the wifi polling.

And for the new modem, any idea what brand and model would be 12v and fit inside the Togo?

turk123 10-23-2019 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RV2019 (Post 2301045)
On the airstream connect the extra modem increased the speed up and down. Does that help with a weak cellular connection? Let say 1 bar signal gets 2mbps using the internal radio, would you get more mbps using the 5 Ghz? I assume the 2mbps would be a combination of low signal and the reduced flow thru with the wifi polling.

And for the new modem, any idea what brand and model would be 12v and fit inside the Togo?

When testing the Peplink modem we found that any bandwidth seems to double in speed using the second modem. I tested this with the WiFi as WAN turned off, so no polling. Testing this with a direct connection to the board and your computer will be the best test to get started.

When you look for a modem, just check the small transformer that comes with it. It should say 12v. Just cut off the transformer and wire direct (with 5a fuse!) I do know that the Apple wireless modem used 5v at one time or even now. If you have one of these, you can buy a stepdown device to drop 12v to 5v.

RV2019 10-23-2019 08:58 AM

What is the $17 modem that you use?

And for those that have the Togo, is there a way to post screenshots of the software pages? Can the WiF as WAN be turned off?

turk123 10-23-2019 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RV2019 (Post 2301056)
What is the $17 modem that you use?

And for those that have the Togo, is there a way to post screenshots of the software pages? Can the WiF as WAN be turned off?

I believe this is the one I used. Got it on sale at fry's for $17.

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AC120...nk%2Caps%2C176

RV2019 10-23-2019 09:41 AM

That looks too large to install inside the Togo. Wondering if a travel router would work. However, no real antenna. Something like this:

TP Link AC750

daleyocum 10-23-2019 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeSag (Post 2300974)
I thought the advantage of adding the second WiFi router to the Airstream Connect had more to do with limitations of the Peplink router than with 5 GHz versus 2.4 GHz.

I thought the early findings by Turk123 had to do with the CPU on the Peplink is limited, and it is polling both the WiFi-as-WAN and polling WiFi-as-LAN, and with the limited CPU of the Peplink, this was limiting the throughput.

Maybe Turk123 can correct me if I am wrong.

It did not have as much to do with 5 GHz WiFi allows faster speeds than 2.4 GHZ.
It had to do with the Peplink was limiting throughput by polling both WiFi-as-WAN and WiFi-as LAN.

And adding the second modem allows to use WiFi-as-WAN in campgrounds that have good WiFi, and use the second WiFi router for the internal re-broadcast. Thus eliminating the Peplink from trying to process two different WiFi at the same time.

And when using LTE as the source in Airstream connect, the Peplink was still polling the WiFi-as-WAN side of the Peplink router unless WiFi-as-WAN was disabled.
So adding the second router doubled the speed by removing the Peplink trying to process two different WiFi (WAN and LAN)


Is Peplink also a category 4 LTE modem? ToGo is apparently. So with Category 4, it does not allow carrier aggregation. So the speeds through a LTE network are going to be limited to single carrier. So the advantages of 5 GHz WiFi being faster than 2.4 GHz WiFi becomes less an issue.
When using WiFi-as-WAN in a campground, it will often need to be 2.4 GHz to get the distance to the campground access point. So adding 5GHz inside the trailer does not add much to the throughput if still limited by either 2.4 GHz WAN or LTE WAN.

The ďdoubling of SpeedsĒ that Turk123 was referencing was based on avoiding the limitations of the Peplink trying to process both WAN and LAN, and not so much to do with 5GHz versus 2.4 GHz WiFi.

I look forward to being corrected.

Now I understand. It makes sense that turning off the campground WiFi polling would make things faster. Iíll be in my trailer with the Togo in two weeks so Iíll let you know if that function of the WiFi can be turned off. The app wonít let me do anything when Iím not connected through the ToGo so I canít tell away from the trailer. Maybe someone will beat me to it.

By the way, thereís no warranty seal broken by taking off the dome of the ToGo. Unscrew four torx screws and youíre in. If you made modifications that can be undone I donít think anyone would know if you needed to send it in under warranty.

turk123 10-23-2019 08:15 PM

The TPlink is only 7 x 4 inches. Pretty small.

The WiFi as Wan will kill your speed. On the Peplink it caused a 10X speed loss in a 60 camper campground. Cradle Point industrial modems use a different cycle to try to avoid the slowdown. They set the interval at 30 seconds instead of 2 seconds. You hardly notice the pause at that interval. It still takes a hit, but not as often.

We used "Speedtest" as our benchmark testing software. You can do the same so everyone has the same baseline when posting speeds here.

I still believe the ToGo is a good way to go. One of the videos I watched had a sysop at a campground testing the ToGo. He was picking up a campground WiFi at 400 feet while testing the Togo inside his trailer. It looks like the software will let you shut off the WiFi feature so it doesn't interfere with the cellular. Let me post the video here:

https://youtu.be/F1Uzlqg3qxI

This may give you more info on how the interface works.

TerryHHI 10-24-2019 03:11 PM

We are staying at Ivy Acres, 201 Ivy Acres Dr, Piedmont, SC 29673 (just outside of Greenville, SC). We have 14 Mbps down and 4 up.

We tested the speed on the drive from Hilton Head to Greenville and were consistently seeing download speeds in the 8 to 10 Mbps.

TOGO had been off for about a week. We flipped the on switch this morning snf by the time we were in the truck and rolling we were up and running.

JONESN4 11-07-2019 08:00 AM

Was you ever able to get the admin password? I have tried admin admin and several others but no luck so far.

daleyocum 11-07-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JONESN4 (Post 2305773)
Was you ever able to get the admin password? I have tried admin admin and several others but no luck so far.

I know it prompts you for an admin password but according to their support department that's not how you administer the device. What they expect you to do is scan the QR code on the manual cover from whatever device you are going to use to administer the unit. Strangely you can only have ONE admin device at a time. If you want to switch, you need to deregister the first device and then register with the second. It's not all that easy so you wouldn't do it frequently.

By the way, I was able to fiddle around with mine last weekend in terms of turning off the WiFi as LAN function in order to improve throughput. The interface is set up so you select the internet source, either WIFI or cellular, and then the unit takes it from there. It doesn't automatically switch back and forth like my old WiFiRanger does. I assume, but don't know for sure, that when unit isn't getting it's internet connection from WiFi it doesn't timeshare the radio with the broadcasting it's doing inside the trailer.

Speedtest from my phone outside (also on AT&T) and this rooftop unit was about the same so that's a good sign. That might not always be true as my newer iPhone can use some of the newer bands that this unit can't. I was in an area with only a bar or two of AT&T service.

JONESN4 11-08-2019 06:55 AM

TOGO login Password
 
daleyocum,

Thank you for your reply, I understand how to use the app, I am referring to 10.11.12.1 from a web browser. I am wanting the password for other reasons and my own security.

daleyocum 11-08-2019 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JONESN4 (Post 2306042)
daleyocum,

Thank you for your reply, I understand how to use the app, I am referring to 10.11.12.1 from a web browser. I am wanting the password for other reasons and my own security.

I see. Youíd need to sweet talk Wineguard or Togo support out of it then. If you are successful let us know and what it gives you access to.

SilverHouseDreams 11-09-2019 11:50 PM

Iím glad I happened to see this thread, as I refuse to buy devices I donít have passwords for. What happens when they stop maintaining the app? Or the app isnít compatible with your specific device any longer? Web interfaces are universal, locking a user out of them is just bad design.

RV2019 11-11-2019 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleyocum (Post 2305826)
I know it prompts you for an admin password but according to their support department that's not how you administer the device. What they expect you to do is scan the QR code on the manual cover from whatever device you are going to use to administer the unit. Strangely you can only have ONE admin device at a time. If you want to switch, you need to deregister the first device and then register with the second. It's not all that easy so you wouldn't do it frequently.

By the way, I was able to fiddle around with mine last weekend in terms of turning off the WiFi as LAN function in order to improve throughput. The interface is set up so you select the internet source, either WIFI or cellular, and then the unit takes it from there. It doesn't automatically switch back and forth like my old WiFiRanger does. I assume, but don't know for sure, that when unit isn't getting it's internet connection from WiFi it doesn't timeshare the radio with the broadcasting it's doing inside the trailer.

Speedtest from my phone outside (also on AT&T) and this rooftop unit was about the same so that's a good sign. That might not always be true as my newer iPhone can use some of the newer bands that this unit can't. I was in an area with only a bar or two of AT&T service.

So, if you connect the ToGo to wifi does it continue to poll other wifi sources and slow things down?

daleyocum 11-12-2019 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RV2019 (Post 2307031)
So, if you connect the ToGo to wifi does it continue to poll other wifi sources and slow things down?

I donít know why it would but that doesnít mean it doesnít. In my limited testing I couldnít measure a slow down when connected to LTE.

JONESN4 11-13-2019 06:34 AM

So update. I was able to get password into the TOGO, but don't get to excited. Even with the access it doesn't give you anymore info or settings then the app. No port forwarding or custom configurations like a standard router. So all the people out there that are trying can give up, no need to continue the search. Still loving the TOGO, it has been great so far.

CWSWine 11-14-2019 08:44 AM

I use a WIFI Ranger GoAc that is about three years old to connect to my TOGO and Verizon MIFI plus it will also connect to the campground WIFI. What's nice it will do load balancing between connections. Here is what WIFI Ranger says:


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The Multi-WAN Load Balance mode makes it possible to spread your data usage across multiple internet connections simultaneously. This feature is very useful for combining the speed and dependability from both WiFi and Cellular. In many cases, the speed of local WiFi networks is slow but the dependability is good. On the other hand, Cellular can often be less stable but much faster. With Load Balancing, the best of both WiFi and Cellular are combined for solid reliability and fast speed.
When using outdoor and indoor unit in a paired setup, Multi-WAN is even more useful, as your indoor WiFiRanger can be connected to a separate local WiFi source than your outdoor unit, giving you two WiFi Networks. This means you could have one WiFi Network as your primary, while having up to two more combined connections-- one WiFi and one Cellular.
Configuring Load Balance:
1. Select Load Balance for Multi-WAN Mode drop-down on Setup tab
2. Check Multi-WAN for each desired Internet Connector
3. Click Save
4. Connect Internet Connectors to internet on Main tab or await automatic connections





https://wifiranger.com/knowledge-bas...=kb&kbartid=48


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steilkurve 12-08-2019 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryHHI (Post 2294849)
Iíve been connected to our new TOGO Internet access for about 2 hours and hereís what I know so far.

Install was done by North Trails RV. Tech that installed said he used butyl tape and screws. He said butyl tape would have probably been enough.

App and connecting was not bad but not great. The app is a little clunky and not too intuitive. But it is functional. Make sure you get the number on the SIM card. You will need them to setup service with ATT.

The ATT online portion was easy. Input the ICC and SIM numbers. Give them $360 and thatís about it.

Then back to TOGO app and connect to network. 30 minutes or so to fumble around getting all the numbers and working through the app. And then it worked.

Inside speed are consistently 14 mbps up and down. We are in Fort Myers and my ATT phone has 2 bars of coverage.

So far, Iím thrilled with TOGO.

Very interesting. Question: How did they get the 12V to it? Did they pierce a hole on your roof?

TerryHHI 12-09-2019 05:44 AM

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Very interesting. Question: How did they get the 12V to it? Did they pierce a hole on your roof?

If my memory is correct, I donít believe they did made a new hole. I believe went in through an existing hole. The rooftop unit is located over the refrigerator. The 12 v switch is located on the wall between the refrigerator and the dinette.

Hereís a zoomed in picture of the installation. It doesnít show enough of the access point to determine. Iím going to the trailer on Wednesday to get ready for a trip. Iíll get a better picture.

Attachment 357455

daleyocum 12-09-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by steilkurve (Post 2314310)
Very interesting. Question: How did they get the 12V to it? Did they pierce a hole on your roof?

On newer trailers that donít have solar you could also use the solar prewire Airstream installs. Youíd just hook those wires (left loose in the ďRats NestĒ typically, to 12v through a fuse. I drilled a new hole and use the wire gland that came with the unit and sealed with Silkaflex but going down the fridge vent is also common.

steilkurve 12-09-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TerryHHI (Post 2314357)
If my memory is correct, I donít believe they did made a new hole. I believe went in through an existing hole. The rooftop unit is located over the refrigerator. The 12 v switch is located on the wall between the refrigerator and the dinette.

Hereís a zoomed in picture of the installation. It doesnít show enough of the access point to determine. Iím going to the trailer on Wednesday to get ready for a trip. Iíll get a better picture.

Attachment 357455

Thanks. If you can, would love to see how they got it in.

steilkurve 12-09-2019 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleyocum (Post 2314438)
On newer trailers that donít have solar you could also use the solar prewire Airstream installs. Youíd just hook those wires (left loose in the ďRats NestĒ typically, to 12v through a fuse. I drilled a new hole and use the wire gland that came with the unit and sealed with Silkaflex but going down the fridge vent is also common.

It is indeed a newer trailer with solar pre-wire but I do have solar so that’s not an option. And the fridge vent option isn’t one either for me as my 2020 Bambi 22FB has a no-vent Novakool fridge. I’ve heard of using the black tank vent but not crazy about putting a whole through that...

daleyocum 12-09-2019 07:51 PM

I don’t have the same aversion to drilling wire holes that others do, so long as you use a high quality gland and Silkaflex 221 to seal it. Airstream does it all the time. I use an extra long drill bit that can go all the way through in one go.

steilkurve 12-09-2019 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daleyocum (Post 2314597)
I donít have the same aversion to drilling wire holes that others do, so long as you use a high quality gland and Silkaflex 221 to seal it. Airstream does it all the time. I use an extra long drill bit that can go all the way through in one go.

Does it not affect your warranty?

That being said, I appreciate your courage!

Question, do you go with a gland that screws in and then use Silkaflex or do you hold in place with Silkaflex?

daleyocum 12-10-2019 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by steilkurve (Post 2314615)
Does it not affect your warranty?

That being said, I appreciate your courage!

Question, do you go with a gland that screws in and then use Silkaflex or do you hold in place with Silkaflex?

Sometimes I use screws but on a small one like that I’d just use VHB tape and then Silkaflex over it. AMsolar uses 3M VHB 4950 tape to attack solar panels to the roof so I use that as well.

I suppose it would effect your warranty if you had a leak at that spot but otherwise no one has ever said anything.

merryweather 12-10-2019 11:05 AM

Togo Roadlink
 
I contacted Togo and they said that the Togo Roadlink would not work for an aluminum skinned RV.

Here is the reply I got from Erica:
"The Roadlink is not ideal for an all metal RV body like an Airstream, but don't worry, we have a similar unit that is sold exclusively thru Airstream and their authorized dealers!"

Anybody having any issues with getting service? The price savings alone is incredible compared to what the Airstream Connected would be.

I am just a little nervous about buying something and it not working.

Thanks.

TerryHHI 12-10-2019 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by merryweather (Post 2314712)
...

I am just a little nervous about buying something and it not working.

Thanks.

I was a little nervous before we purchased our system. I couldnít find anyone that had actually used one on an Airstream. So far, we have had nothing but good luck. I try to post speeds from our campsites to give everyone an idea of how it is working. It has been fast enough for us to stream Netflix whenever we want.

Iíve found about the same download and upload speeds whether Iím inside the AS or sitting outside and only a slight drop off when using it in our tow vehicle. Iím guessing this is distance related.

Iíve not read about anyone having speed issues with an aluminum skinned trailer. Maybe someone else has had a different experience.

We are happy we decided to use Togo for our Internet access.

davloose 12-10-2019 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merryweather (Post 2314712)
I contacted Togo and they said that the Togo Roadlink would not work for an aluminum skinned RV.

Here is the reply I got from Erica:
"The Roadlink is not ideal for an all metal RV body like an Airstream, but don't worry, we have a similar unit that is sold exclusively thru Airstream and their authorized dealers!"

Anybody having any issues with getting service? The price savings alone is incredible compared to what the Airstream Connected would be.

I am just a little nervous about buying something and it not working.

Thanks.

I installed mine on the roof of my Airstream, after testing it sitting in place. Works fine through the metal roof, same as immediately outside the unit. This past weekend at Lake Texana, I was getting 50-60Mbps up and down, very nice!

daleyocum 12-10-2019 10:30 PM

Itís been working fine for me as well. The WiFi is full four bars everywhere inside the trailer and outside nearby. While I can see in theory the aluminum would degrade the WiFi signal but in practice it just doesnít work out that way.

TerryHHI 12-11-2019 01:06 PM

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Thanks. If you can, would love to see how they got it in.

Hi steilkurve,

Hereís as a picture I could get with my selfie stick (forgot the stepladder). It looks like they went in the refrigerator vent. I thought that was what the technician told me but I wasnít sure.

Attachment 357551

In the storage lot on Bluffton, SC Iím getting 25.7 mbps down and 15.2 up inside the trailer and outside Iím getting 48.7 down and 18.7 up. Thatís a larger difference then Iíve experienced in other locations.

Terry

steilkurve 12-11-2019 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TerryHHI (Post 2315004)
Hi steilkurve,

Hereís as a picture I could get with my selfie stick (forgot the stepladder). It looks like they went in the refrigerator vent. I thought that was what the technician told me but I wasnít sure.

Attachment 357551

In the storage lot on Bluffton, SC Iím getting 25.7 mbps down and 15.2 up inside the trailer and outside Iím getting 48.7 down and 18.7 up. Thatís a larger difference then Iíve experienced in other locations.

Terry

Ok. Tx

daleyocum 12-18-2019 03:15 PM

TOGO Plan canceled!
 
Well, this is quite the disappointment. I would use stronger language but this is a family forum. AT&T has pulled the plug on this $30 unlimited plan for both TOGO and Airstream connect! And, currently, existing customers won't be grandfathered in!!!

For those who just paid a lot of money to have the Airstream connect installed or, like me, a fair amount to install a TOGO this is quite the slap in the face. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and this get's reconsidered.

IF YOU HAVEN"T YET PURCHASED AND INSTALLED A TOGO OR AIRSTREAM CONNECT, KNOW THAT IT'S A ONE YEAR THING.

https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/ale...ary-16th-2020/

SteveSueMac 12-18-2019 03:52 PM

Wow....


Well - one less thing on my ticklist for the factory this summer....

AT&T should be ashamed of themselves. They guessed wrong so going forward they donít want to do a plan thatís a money drain. But you enticed customers based in an expectation - the VERY LEAST they could do is grandfather current customers as a demonstration of good faith.

Disgusting quite frankly.....not a surprise, but disgusting nonetheless.....

DKB_SATX 12-18-2019 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveSueMac (Post 2316780)
Wow....


Well - one less thing on my ticklist for the factory this summer....

AT&T should be ashamed of themselves. They guessed wrong so going forward they donít want to do a plan thatís a money drain. But you enticed customers based in an expectation - the VERY LEAST they could do is grandfather current customers as a demonstration of good faith.

Disgusting quite frankly.....not a surprise, but disgusting nonetheless.....

If T-Mo gets a bunch of 600mhz coverage out in the boonies they're going to be a much better choice than AT&T anyway. Hopefully it'll cost AT&T a few customers for their bad behavior.

daleyocum 12-19-2019 09:13 AM

Instructions for getting the admin password for TOGOs, which are needed to use them with other carriers, have been posted at https://help.runswithtogo.com/find-my-mac-number

This isn’t urgent but as long as your plan is still working, of course.

RV2019 12-27-2019 09:17 AM

Does anyone have info on TravelData?
https://traveldata.page

$49/month for unlimited data. Nothing on the website says anything about carrier. It does say it is un-throttled. I sent them an email to see if their service would work with the ToGo and their response was that I'd need their SIM card. Would need one anyway for whatever service was used.

One can also pause this service so you pay for only the months needed. They did say in the email that partial months could not be done so if you use it a day in the month you pay for the month.

I really wanted the Togo but the loss of the plan makes me rethink it. $700 for only 1 year unlimited (Togo and plan) is expensive when one doesn't full time in the RV. $360 or so in future years would be OK but now what does one do next year? I saw the TravelData plan mentioned on the RVMobileInternet site. I'd assume it is legit but their webpage does not give a lot of information.

DKB_SATX 12-27-2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RV2019 (Post 2318692)
Does anyone have info on TravelData?
https://traveldata.page

$49/month for unlimited data. Nothing on the website says anything about carrier. It does say it is un-throttled. I sent them an email to see if their service would work with the ToGo and their response was that I'd need their SIM card. Would need one anyway for whatever service was used.

One can also pause this service so you pay for only the months needed. They did say in the email that partial months could not be done so if you use it a day in the month you pay for the month.

I really wanted the Togo but the loss of the plan makes me rethink it. $700 for only 1 year unlimited (Togo and plan) is expensive when one doesn't full time in the RV. $360 or so in future years would be OK but now what does one do next year? I saw the TravelData plan mentioned on the RVMobileInternet site. I'd assume it is legit but their webpage does not give a lot of information.

If you look in detail at their website, each of their plans comes with an AT&T SIM so that's who they're using.

RV2019 12-27-2019 04:14 PM

Thanks. Is there a website that discusses these alternate data companies? RVMobileInternet only gave a list.


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