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Saggy1021 02-14-2019 07:18 PM

New to Airstream
 
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Getting a 1993 34' Limited, just a little overwhelmed with what all to do. Tested a lot of stuff, only thing that doesn't seem to work is refrigerator. We turned it on A/C and gas both ran, but didn't seem to cool. We didnt leave it on very long so maybe I should test it longer. Air Conditioner Is another thing, it seems to cool, but I'm not sure how cold it will blow. Can you service these units? Keep seeing a lot of stuff about axles, should I be worried about them? This thing has been well taken care of, but it has sat for many years in a closed garage. We are going to be storing it outside under a metal carport. We really would like to take it on a short trip soon, but what should I be worried about? Also we dont have any keys, it seems they got lost, I talked to out of doors mart, and they seem to think they have a key to work on most of outside doors, I am worried about fresh water door and main door. I know I can get deadbolt key from locksmith but not sure about the other. Posted pictures of the locks
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SeeMore 02-14-2019 10:41 PM

Out-of-Doors Mart is correct that most of the outside locks are standard and the key code is the small number found beside the opening slot. I recently learned that 80% of all trailer RVs have the exact same key for outer hatches so the right key shouldn't be hard to acquire but don't think you are too secure. The main door key is different.

Even on a good day, testing the refrigerator takes hours to reach full cooling. At best, you can only quickly determine if the electric heating rod is working or the propane flame is on. Otherwise, you have to wait as much a whole day to reach <40 degrees in the refrigerator compartment.

The A/C unit only cools about 30 degrees from ambient so don't expect frost to emerge from the openings.

If the picture is current, I don't believe you have to worry about the axles as there is an appropriate amount of sidewall visible.

rowiebowie 02-14-2019 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saggy1021 (Post 2209918)
Getting a 1993 34' Limited, just a little overwhelmed with what all to do. Tested a lot of stuff, only thing that doesn't seem to work is refrigerator. We turned it on A/C and gas both ran, but didn't seem to cool. We didnt leave it on very long so maybe I should test it longer. Air Conditioner Is another thing, it seems to cool, but I'm not sure how cold it will blow. Can you service these units? Keep seeing a lot of stuff about axles, should I be worried about them? This thing has been well taken care of, but it has sat for many years in a closed garage. We are going to be storing it outside under a metal carport. We really would like to take it on a short trip soon, but what should I be worried about? Also we dont have any keys, it seems they got lost, I talked to out of doors mart, and they seem to think they have a key to work on most of outside doors, I am worried about fresh water door and main door. I know I can get deadbolt key from locksmith but not sure about the other. Posted pictures of the locks
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Welcome to the forum Saggy1021!

That rig is a real looker. Congrats.

Give the fridge quite a few hours to cool down, and check the exterior vent to make sure it is not obstructed.

Good luck.
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MontyV 03-03-2019 04:26 PM

great looking TT. the age of appliances should be taken into account in price, or the price you are willing to pay. AC and fridge can both be served and repaired or replaced. you will need to leave fridge on for a few hours to get a sense of cooling. put an oven thermometer inside. or ask the owners to turn it on the night before you come to look. AC works much faster but it takes time to really cool. even 20 minutes will tell you a lot. as to axles you look good in the photo. but crawl underneath and check that they are still pointed up on the ends. pull a wheel and check the brakes and bearings. if they are well maintained TT is probably well maintained as well. check the age of the tires. lots of folks think they should be replaced every 6-8 years regardless of tread wear. I think where the tires have been is more important. lots of sun and they degrade faster.

Saggy1021 03-07-2019 06:41 PM

Went to day and jacked up trailer to take tires off to get changed, went to lower rear jack for stability and it wont go down, it just clicks. Any ideas what it could be? Also I was told it would be ok to jack one side and change all tires, just worried about all pressure on one side of shocks.

dbj216 03-07-2019 07:39 PM

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Hello from Colorado: We have a 86 Limited 34'. I think you will love this 93.

Jack the trailer from the axle mounting plates, never from the axle tubes underneath. Don't worry about the shocks one bit. Loosen the lug nuts and jack it up to remove the wheels. If you are going to crawl underneath, place a jack stand on the axle mounting plate or on the frame rail just behind the axle mounting plate.

The BAL stabilizer that doesn't work is unusual. It is just a simple acme thread ball screw actuating the linkage. They are not difficult to replace and not difficult to remove.

You have to have 30 amp service to run that AC. Don't run it on a household circuit. The fridge will take time to cool down as mentioned. You can run that on 15 amp household circuit.

The trailer looks nice. Covered storage is a big plus. Here is a photo of our 86 Limited just for fun. I've done a lot of work to this trailer.

David

Saggy1021 03-08-2019 07:16 PM

The tires on this trailer were in really great shape, but really old. We replaced them with tow master str's they are a cheap tire, but just going to use them for short trips for a few years while we learn the trailer. Anybody have experience with these tires.

Saggy1021 03-10-2019 02:39 PM

Another question. Left side wheels spin freely freely, but they make a scratching sound. What could that be?

TRIPPPIN 03-10-2019 03:12 PM

In my opinion could be rust and dirt only but if it has been sitting I would pull the wheels and drums and do a proper inspection

Saggy1021 03-27-2019 03:26 PM

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Got it home today, finally! I got keys to all locks now, except deadbolt. Anyone know how to get the cylinder out so I can get it re-keyed.Attachment 336693

dbj216 03-27-2019 06:57 PM

Congratulations on getting the trailer home.

Maybe you can take a close up picture of the deadbolt, both from the outside and then from the inside so we can see which one it is.

A locksmith visit is always an alternative as they will certainly know how to remove it and get a key make for it.

David

Saggy1021 03-27-2019 07:27 PM

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What about this, it seems like it should be a table that folds out, but I cant figure it out. Anybody have insight?Attachment 336711

Saggy1021 03-27-2019 07:47 PM

Also , can you order the clips for the curtains that go in the channels?

dbj216 03-28-2019 07:45 PM

My trailers are much older than yours. My fold up tables simply hang on the hinges. I just pull from the floor level and up they come. There is a leg on the back of the table that folds down to support it. Maybe Airstream now has some keeper. Mine just swing in the breeze.

The plastic curtain guides are likely available. One of my favorite sources is Vintage Trailer Supply. Here is a link to what they offer. Outdoormart in North Carolina is also a very good source of Airstream parts.

David

https://www.vintagetrailersupply.com...tains-s/65.htm

Saggy1021 03-28-2019 08:47 PM

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This is outside of lock and inside on wallAttachment 336805Attachment 336806

dbj216 03-29-2019 07:05 PM

Thanks for the photos; worth a thousand words you know.

I would remove the two round head machine screws with your phillips screwdriver. Pull out the inside deadbolt actuator, likely a square rod inside. Then on the outside of the trailer, remove the deadbolt lock. It will have a gasket around it most likely. The rod can stay in place in the door. Put a piece of tape over the hole to keep rainwater out.

I suspect any locksmith can key this lock with no problems. Saves a house call.

David

Saggy1021 03-30-2019 09:45 PM

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Refrigerator still doesn't seem to cool. Does it look like the ammonia mixture has leaked out? I see the little bit of greenish yellow, but it doesn't seem to be enough. This thing sat for a long time, but it doesn't look to have been used very much if at all. Previous owner replaced original fridge. I'm just wondering, should I replace the whole fridge or just the cooling unit if it comes to it. Both AC and propane work and heat. Sorry to ramble, just wondering if there is anything to try, or what to do to get it working or replaced. ThanksAttachment 336955

n2916s 03-31-2019 07:48 AM

Probably dead--either fluid loss or internal corrosion has stopped circulation. I rebuilt mine with an overhauled cooling unit. Took a few hours, simple to do. That was 12 years or so ago and it still works fine.

Saggy1021 03-31-2019 11:40 AM

Are all the replacement units pretty much the same?

dznf0g 03-31-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Saggy1021 (Post 2225732)
Are all the replacement units pretty much the same?

Look at rvcoolingunit.com. been very happy with my replacement unit. Now 8 years old.
It is a reman unit.

Saggy1021 04-02-2019 09:24 AM

Anyone know much about the thermal breakers they used in these units? I had one click off, and it has never come back on. It says they are automatic but nothing. I looked in the box and have no idea what to do with these.

dbj216 04-02-2019 07:48 PM

I wonder if you are referring to the circuit breakers involved in the trailer's external lighting and the like. That may be the only place they are used anymore. If one went open, and if now your tail lights don't light, there's gotta be a reason the breaker got hot and went open, like a short in the wire.

Some of these breakers do have a manual reset, but most use a bimetal strip that moves one way (to open the circuit) when hot, and moves the other way when it cools. If the breaker is defective for some reason, you can try to replace it. Your local car parts store may have one available. Or they are readily available on the internet.

https://www.delcity.net/store/12V-Au...98669.h_198846

Diagnosing electrical problems can be a challenge, especially for me. But I'm getting better at it the more I do. You will too.

David

Saggy1021 04-07-2019 11:20 AM

Thanks for everyone's help. Another question I have is, i bought a sewer hose but the end is not big enough to go onto airstream. Is there an adapter I need? What size?

skyguyscott 04-07-2019 12:26 PM

Welcome!
 
Airstream trailers have a unique sized sewer coupling for reasons no one ever explained to me. Most RV supply stores have an adapter, just tell them you need a sewer hose adapter for an Airstream.

Also, here is a handy link to a resource you'll find very helpful:

https://vintageairstream.com/restorat...ers-resources/

Lumatic 04-07-2019 12:40 PM

So you got the big puppy, congrats.

The circuit breakers are a bit of a puzzle. Mine are not "automatic". There is a very small reset button on the already small breaker.

Your sewer connection is likely Thetford. An adapter to go from the Thetford fitting to Valterra is out there at most RV stores.

Saggy1021 04-10-2019 03:28 PM

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Ok, I've got more questions. The bumper got bent when it was pulled out of garage when I picked it up. What is best option on this. Is it a problem the way it is? It doesn't seem like based on the other side that water getting in is a problem, but I wondered about rodents. The storage for the sewage hose gets water in it, there is no drain hole, so does the water just sit in there. And the side storage compartments at the bottom seem like water will get in. Is that an issue?Attachment 337841Attachment 337842Attachment 337843Attachment 337844Attachment 337845

Lumatic 04-10-2019 03:34 PM

My bumper storage area has drain holes. I don't think Mickey will be a problem.

dbj216 04-11-2019 06:11 PM

Hi Saggy: I suggest you get the rear bumper area repaired. I see a gap between the molding and the flange. This could be a excellent rainwater ingress right at the OSB subfloor. This area needs well sealed against rainwater.

The bumper storage area is "external" so to speak and water getting in their is no biggie. I too have drilled drain holes in the aluminum sheeting below this area just to let rainwater drain out. Airstream "basements", or the area below the subfloor and above the belly pan are infamous for water retention. Some folks work hard to seal it all up, and others like me drill holes and let the water drain out and the area dry up with better ventilation. I drill 1/4" drain holes so water drips out and mice don't get in.

David

Saggy1021 04-16-2019 07:57 PM

I'm looking for stuff we need for first trip, something that came to mind was a jack. Scissor or bottle best? The trailer has a spare, but I don't see a jack anywhere.

Lumatic 04-17-2019 09:09 AM

I use a bottle jack.

The easiest way to change a tire is to get a plastic lifter. You drive up on it with one wheel and the flat will be suspended above the surface so you can change it.

Saggy1021 04-17-2019 10:00 AM

Does that work with triple axel?

Lumatic 04-17-2019 11:23 AM

You might need to lift 2 wheels, but no reason it wouldn't work.

Saggy1021 04-17-2019 07:48 PM

I bought 1 of the plastic things for my 2 axle utility trailer, but you are saying I need 2?

Lumatic 04-18-2019 09:15 AM

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I bought 1 of the plastic things for my 2 axle utility trailer, but you are saying I need 2?

Try one and see if you can lift your other wheel off the ground.

Saggy1021 04-29-2019 07:18 PM

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Got it into "It's" home today. Another question, the sewer drain is leaking what seems like fluid from the black tank. It's not all of it, because if you pull the lever more comes flowing out. But when you have the sewer cap on, quite a bit backs up in there and flood out when you take the cap off. Is there a seal or something that needs replacing?Attachment 339417

dbj216 04-29-2019 08:30 PM

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Got it home and a nice home it is. Waste water dump valves often leak. Your trailer may still have the original valves and seals.

Hold on to your hat, fixing it is a rather big project. Airstream conveniently installed the valves under the big tank covers, so they have to be removed to access the valves. They should have provided a "maintenance access door" but alas, they did not.

My valves were leaking also and I just replaced them both. I prefer the Valterra blade valves as the sealing design is simpler. The valves are about $20 each. The replacement project took me a week.

Here are some photos of what I did maybe 8 years ago. So far, no leaks.

David

Saggy1021 05-02-2019 07:08 PM

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Got it home and a nice home it is. Waste water dump valves often leak. Your trailer may still have the original valves and seals.

Hold on to your hat, fixing it is a rather big project. Airstream conveniently installed the valves under the big tank covers, so they have to be removed to access the valves. They should have provided a "maintenance access door" but alas, they did not.

My valves were leaking also and I just replaced them both. I prefer the Valterra blade valves as the sealing design is simpler. The valves are about $20 each. The replacement project took me a week.

Here are some photos of what I did maybe 8 years ago. So far, no leaks.

David

Thanks David, what are the holding tanks made of? Gray,black, and water.

dbj216 05-02-2019 08:13 PM

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Hi again: The tanks are made of polyethylene plastic material. It is a thermoplastic material. They are "rotomolded". Here is a photo of the fresh water tank out of our 86 Limited 34'. I had a plumbing leak below the subfloor and above this tank. So out it came so I could make repairs. The second photo is the molder's insignia. Inca Plastics has been molding water tanks for the RV industry for decades.

David

Saggy1021 05-02-2019 08:32 PM

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Hi again: The tanks are made of polyethylene plastic material. It is a thermoplastic material. They are "rotomolded". Here is a photo of the fresh water tank out of our 86 Limited 34'. I had a plumbing leak below the subfloor and above this tank. So out it came so I could make repairs. The second photo is the molder's insignia. Inca Plastics has been molding water tanks for the RV industry for decades.

David

Ok, good. So I shouldn't have to worry about the tanks being messed up. The freshwater tank had water in it for years, I have flushed it several times now, with bleach, and drove it around filled once. Im still worried about using it. It should clean well though if it is plastic, I guess.

dbj216 05-03-2019 07:07 PM

I bleached my fresh water tank last night and flushed it twice today. We are taking a week long trip to Utah leaving tomorrow. Bleach is a very good disinfectant. I took a glass of water after I filled the tank with fresh water. Tasted good with no odors.

Your plumbing ought to be clean now.

David

Saggy1021 06-03-2019 08:52 PM

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We finally got to go camping, even if it was just a night. Everything with the airstream was great, except the kitchen faucet leaked. The travel up the mountain was not so swell. Never have liked Ford's, and do less now. But we have what we have. There were a lot of airstreams at the KOA we were at in Boone. Our boys were ready to sell the house and move into the airstream full time.Attachment 342451Attachment 342452Attachment 342453

Saggy1021 06-27-2019 09:01 PM

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Nice and Clean, ready for wax!Attachment 344701

dbj216 06-28-2019 07:15 PM

Looks very nice indeed. David

Saggy1021 07-15-2019 07:25 PM

What do you all use for chocks, and when I go to level from side to side, can i not just do the front and back wheels and let middle hang?

Lumatic 07-16-2019 08:55 AM

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can i not just do the front and back wheels and let middle hang?

Yes


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