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robertwarren 11-27-2018 11:58 AM

Full Time Winterizing Thoughts
 
Robyn and I are full timers currently at Raccoon Mountain RV Park outside Chattanooga, TN. We are expecting a low tonight of 27 F. Last night we put the thermostat on Zone 2 @ 70, Furnace and Auto Fan. We also disconnected the campground water at the faucet and drained the hose. We were comfortable. The temperature is expected to stay below freezing starting 6pm today for about 12-hours. The only other thing we plan to do is open all the inside doors when freezing outside. We have water in the water heater using the electric to keep it warm. Also, we do not use any water until it is not freezing outside. Given the above any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!

Lily&Me 11-27-2018 12:54 PM

You sound good to go, to me. :)

Maggie

Adventure.AS 11-27-2018 01:00 PM

Put an insulated skirt around the bottom of the trailer (there are plenty of commercial options) and put some heat lamps in there. You can also buy (or make) a heated water hose. Try some heat tracer cables around your waste tank valves and sewer hose.

uncle_bob 11-27-2018 02:59 PM

Hi

I'm not really sure that the "use no water until it's above freezing" part is needed. If anything, moving water through the pipes will reduce the chance of freezing.

Bob

robertwarren 11-27-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by uncle_bob (Post 2184188)
Hi



I'm not really sure that the "use no water until it's above freezing" part is needed. If anything, moving water through the pipes will reduce the chance of freezing.



Bob


I was concerned that the outside hose would freeze. However, I can connect it to Trinity through a Y and let one leg drip. Thank you for prompting me to rethink my thoughts!

robertwarren 11-27-2018 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lily&Me (Post 2184153)
You sound good to go, to me. :)



Maggie



Thank you

robertwarren 11-27-2018 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adventure.AS (Post 2184154)
Put an insulated skirt around the bottom of the trailer (there are plenty of commercial options) and put some heat lamps in there. You can also buy (or make) a heated water hose. Try some heat tracer cables around your waste tank valves and sewer hose.



Thank you

uncle_bob 11-28-2018 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle_bob (Post 2184188)
Hi

I'm not really sure that the "use no water until it's above freezing" part is needed. If anything, moving water through the pipes will reduce the chance of freezing.

Bob

Hi

..... ahhh.... the missing link - you fill the fresh water tank. Set up the way you are, it's not going to freeze.

Bob

Acheron2010 11-28-2018 06:56 AM

The only other things I am doing is using reflective insulation between the windows and shades, a Camco insulated insert over the fantastic fan, and carpet runners for the toes.

A W Warn 11-28-2018 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by robertwarren (Post 2184138)
Robyn and I are full timers currently at Raccoon Mountain RV Park outside Chattanooga, TN. We are expecting a low tonight of 27 F. Last night we put the thermostat on Zone 2 @ 70, Furnace and Auto Fan. We also disconnected the campground water at the faucet and drained the hose. We were comfortable. The temperature is expected to stay below freezing starting 6pm today for about 12-hours. The only other thing we plan to do is open all the inside doors when freezing outside. We have water in the water heater using the electric to keep it warm. Also, we do not use any water until it is not freezing outside. Given the above any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!

Check the propane tanks, making sure one is 100% full.

Finding propane in the middle of the night is almost impossible!
(I'm telling you this because I've done it :blush:)

robertwarren 11-28-2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by A W Warn (Post 2184345)
Check the propane tanks, making sure one is 100% full.

Finding propane in the middle of the night is almost impossible!
(I'm telling you this because I've done it :blush:)



Thank you!

wsrb 11-28-2018 10:02 AM

We just spent two weeks in Wisconsin with freezing temperatures at night. The coldest down to 12 degrees. Keep the furnace running and all will be fine.

VT Wanderer 11-28-2018 10:28 AM

When, or if, you ever have the need to winterize, I have a detailed data base of how I winterize our 2014, 27ft., Flying Cloud. Works great for me living in northern VT. If you would like a copy, email me at: sgraner@aol.com

HHPJ 11-28-2018 10:53 AM

Since you are full timers, next season you should hang out here in the Palm Springs area... RV lots can be rented 450-600 a month here or if you are a Thousand Trails Elete member, there are three parks in the area stay three months!! 71 Degrees today

NoMoreDRV 11-28-2018 11:02 AM

We camp year round in Canada. Last week it was -16C (3F) for 48 hours and we were full of water. We kept the indoor temperature at 66F which was sufficient to keep the tanks from freezing. Nothing else - no skirts, no extra heaters - nada. Usually we supplement our heat with electric but that isn't a good idea when it's going to be that cold. Our parks are all winterized so the exterior hose wasn't an issue.
We winterized with antifreeze on the weekend because all good things do come to an end but, we have never had any problems with having water in our tanks when we keep the rig as warm as toast.

PCJ 11-28-2018 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by robertwarren (Post 2184138)
Robyn and I are full timers currently at Raccoon Mountain RV Park outside Chattanooga, TN. We are expecting a low tonight of 27 F. Last night we put the thermostat on Zone 2 @ 70, Furnace and Auto Fan. We also disconnected the campground water at the faucet and drained the hose. We were comfortable. The temperature is expected to stay below freezing starting 6pm today for about 12-hours. The only other thing we plan to do is open all the inside doors when freezing outside. We have water in the water heater using the electric to keep it warm. Also, we do not use any water until it is not freezing outside. Given the above any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you!

We've camped even colder than that, it get much colder we turn on our tank heaters (gray, black and fresh water), I assume you don't have them. If not I think you'll be fine with what you're doing.

SemperBadger 11-28-2018 11:34 AM

I frequently run the heat pumps for as much of the day/night as possible to reduce the load on the propane - and I am paying for the electric anyway so might as well use it, assuming that you aren't being metered. When it gets close to freezing and the efficiency drops off I switch to the furnace - **especially since the heat pump does not provide warm air to the sealed underbelly!** I was pleasantly surprised to see how effective the HPs were with even significantly cooler air to work with and I have saved a fair amount of $ using less propane.

CalifBob 11-28-2018 04:51 PM

Below Freezing
 
I've spent two winters in Colorado above 6000ft. During both winters the temperatures went to -14f for several days at a time. The other advice about keeping water in the on-board tank and keeping the hot water heater going 24/7 worked for me. If you are going to be in -32f temps, why not get a Camco heated water hose? I've found they work to below 0. But wherever you are staying has to also have a heat tape on their water supply.

When it gets below Of things begin to get difficult. At -14 my internal water tank froze at the bottom where the outlet and sensor are. You mentioned a Y fitting which I would imagine is metal. That is the first thing that will freeze.

The tank outlet/dump valve also often will freeze - but using a silicon lubricant on it helps.

I also put the heat-shrink plastic on all windows that do not open. It seems to help a lot.

As to propane, I as well as many others, manually close one of the two tanks. Then if one runs out, you'll know fairly quickly and can then turn the back-up on (invariably at 3am)and refill the first tank the next day. In this way you never run completely out of propane.

It is also important to keep your internal propane heater on a comfortable setting and just leave it there. This eventually heats even the hidden areas of the trailer. If you have a newer tailer, there are heater ducks that go to the under floor covered area where the top of your black water tank and hoses are. This keeps them from freezing until it gets down to 0 to -10 degrees. Using an electric space heater often means the propane heater doesn't kick on.

Popcornkid 11-28-2018 07:33 PM

Lots of good advice , we stay in the South Okanagan BC for the winter months in a 30 ft - '05 MH Land Yacht-SL the only problem is the slide , the seals leak outside air , installed spray foam under the floor between the frame rails and use a heated rug ( https://www.amazon.ca/SpeedHeat-Rugb.../dp/B00067ASOA ) , always toasty warm , no need for skirting yet , been down to -15C last year.

bgbrannon 11-29-2018 09:48 AM

I bought the Pirit heated water hose. www.pitithose.com
i needed 100' and it was $200. heated w/thermostate so it runs from 42 degrees to 50 and shuts back off. it is also 100% lead free


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