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murreywalker 03-03-2014 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ag&Au (Post 1422758)
It's the Holy Ghost petroglyphs in Horseshoe Canyon. a detached part of Canyonlands NP.
Although I'm pretty sure the Desert Archaic Culture that did this probably did not call him this, I guessing the big guy must be the Holy Ghost.

Ken

Well, you got the location exactly right, but I don't think it's "Holy".

It is the Great Ghost and that's close enough.

Cheers, Ag&Au!

Now, let's see some more posters and their visual stumpers.

Ag&Au 03-03-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by murreywalker (Post 1422776)
Well, you got the location exactly right, but I don't think it's "Holy".

It is the Great Ghost and that's close enough.

Cheers, Ag&Au!

Now, let's see some more posters and their visual stumpers.

I believe you're right. here is where I got the wrong name (picture on upper right).

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...62286460,d.aWc
Ken

50KIP 03-03-2014 07:25 PM

Lighthouses
 
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Since we are on a lighthouse theme, how about this one:



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Ag&Au 03-03-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 50KIP (Post 1422827)
Since we are on a lighthouse theme, how about this one:



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I'm not confident about it but:

Presque Isle on Lake Huron?

Ken

50KIP 03-03-2014 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ag&Au (Post 1422837)
I'm not confident about it but:

Presque Isle on Lake Huron?

Ken

No, look to the Right Coast. It is very old.

SteveSueMac 03-03-2014 09:08 PM

The Nubble in Maine??

murreywalker 03-03-2014 10:01 PM

It kind of looks like Ocracoke (sp), but that's just a wild guess.

xrvr 03-04-2014 06:37 AM

Please don't stop posting, this is one of the more interesting ongoing threads. I appreciate where you all have been and enjoy the photos. Thanks, jim

SteveH 03-04-2014 07:25 AM

I think #1263 is Concord Point Light, a lighthouse in Havre de Grace, Maryland, overlooking the point where the Susquehanna River flows into the Chesapeake Bay.

murreywalker 03-04-2014 08:28 AM

I agree Steve.

It's Concord Point, for sure.

youngpeck 03-04-2014 09:13 AM

#1257 is known as the "Holy Ghost" group, part of the Great Gallery of rock art in Horseshoe Canyon, which used to be called Barrier Canyon, whose name also refers to a style of rock art in Utah (both pictographs and petroglyphs) that is quite old in relation to most rock art found in these parts. This Barrier Canyon Style is also found in some areas of Arches, and I believe would be the style of the Wolfe Cabin petroglyphs near Delicate Arch, so SteveH's guess (in post #1258) is actually understandable.

What I'd like to know is how close you guys got your trailers to the canyon. I'm assuming you approached on the north road from Green River and walked down from the overlook to Horseshoe Canyon. Did you camp at the BLM campground there or drop your rigs somewhere along the line? I've been in from the south side, which is a pretty rugged four-wheel drive road, but I'd like to take my wife and AS back there sometime. I hear they have improved the (north-side) gravel road in the past fifteen years or so.

There is an interesting story about the Great Gallery in Horseshoe Canyon, which of course is considered to be one of the premier rock art panels in the United States, if not in the world. I have heard at least two versions of this, and some of the details are open for "discussion," but credible authorities consider it to be true:
There was quite a bit of oil explorations on the west side of the Green River back in the late 1920s and 1930s. In 1928 or 1929 an oil crew working near Horseshoe Canyon wanted to dynamite part of the Great Gallery off of the panel and take it back to Oklahoma to make a coffee table for the president of Phillips Oil Company. Some of the cowboys then tending cattle nearby got wind of it and rode down to see what was going on, and threatened to "put a couple of 30-calibre slugs in the engineer's hide" if he tried to harm the panel.
Sadly, this kind of thing never stops, and the looting of ruins and rock art all over the Southwest continues.

And, Murrey, I hope to claim that "consolation prize" from you sometime when you are in "the neighborhood." Please keep up the good photographic work. I too have enjoyed this thread, and I don't think we have grown tired of any one person's photos--they are all of such high quality and composition. Keep them coming!!

murreywalker 03-04-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by youngpeck (Post 1423031)
#1257 is known as the "Holy Ghost" group, part of the Great Gallery of rock art in Horseshoe Canyon, which used to be called Barrier Canyon, whose name also refers to a style of rock art in Utah (both pictographs and petroglyphs) that is quite old in relation to most rock art found in these parts. This Barrier Canyon Style is also found in some areas of Arches, and I believe would be the style of the Wolfe Cabin petroglyphs near Delicate Arch, so SteveH's guess (in post #1258) is actually understandable.

What I'd like to know is how close you guys got your trailers to the canyon. I'm assuming you approached on the north road from Green River and walked down from the overlook to Horseshoe Canyon. Did you camp at the BLM campground there or drop your rigs somewhere along the line? I've been in from the south side, which is a pretty rugged four-wheel drive road, but I'd like to take my wife and AS back there sometime. I hear they have improved the (north-side) gravel road in the past fifteen years or so.

There is an interesting story about the Great Gallery in Horseshoe Canyon, which of course is considered to be one of the premier rock art panels in the United States, if not in the world. I have heard at least two versions of this, and some of the details are open for "discussion," but credible authorities consider it to be true:
There was quite a bit of oil explorations on the west side of the Green River back in the late 1920s and 1930s. In 1928 or 1929 an oil crew working near Horseshoe Canyon wanted to dynamite part of the Great Gallery off of the panel and take it back to Oklahoma to make a coffee table for the president of Phillips Oil Company. Some of the cowboys then tending cattle nearby got wind of it and rode down to see what was going on, and threatened to "put a couple of 30-calibre slugs in the engineer's hide" if he tried to harm the panel.
Sadly, this kind of thing never stops, and the looting of ruins and rock art all over the Southwest continues.

And, Murrey, I hope to claim that "consolation prize" from you sometime when you are in "the neighborhood." Please keep up the good photographic work. I too have enjoyed this thread, and I don't think we have grown tired of any one person's photos--they are all of such high quality and composition. Keep them coming!!

Youngpeck, in 2010, when I hiked down (and trudged up), I was camped at Goblin Valley State Park.

And it's a forty mile drive from Goblin to the parking lot of Horseshoe. From Goblin to Highway 24, the road is just fine.

That said, once you're on the eastern side road going to the canyon, you're on washboard all the time. And that's about 35 miles of REALLY bad washboard.

There's no way I would pull my trailer to that parking lot. AND, when you get there, there's no facilities.

If I were you, I would just plan on getting up a little earlier at Goblin.

By the way, I called the Horseshoe Unit, and the Ranger said he would meet me in the Horseshoe parking lot and guide me down, if I would meet him at 9 in the morning. I said I would, and we did. He helped a great deal.

WRT oil production. It was my belief that yes, there was exploration there, but it was for Uranium, not oil.

If you've got any more questions, let's take it to PM, and not annoy the others on this thread.

Murrey

SteveH 03-04-2014 10:09 AM

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Here's another light house that's fairly distinctive, and someone should get almost instantly. On the East Coast

50KIP 03-04-2014 10:10 AM

Concord Point is correct! War of 1812 "battle" fought there.

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murreywalker 03-04-2014 10:13 AM

After Youngpeck's post, I began to question my description of the Great Ghost figure in a previous post.

Many do call it the "Holy Ghost".

And many others call it the "Great Ghost" because of its height. I have always known it as the GG. Here's one attribution.

Horseshoe Canyon - Canyonlands National Park

And another.
Horseshoe Canyon - Canyonlands NP, Utah - American West Travelogue

My opinion is that it's known as the GG amongst photographers, and HG, elsewhere.

Now that's my "anal" contribution of the month. :D

Ag&Au 03-04-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by murreywalker (Post 1423036)
Youngpeck, in 2010, when I hiked down (and trudged up), I was camped at Goblin Valley State Park.

And it's a forty mile drive from Goblin to the parking lot of Horseshoe. From Goblin to Highway 24, the road is just fine.

That said, once you're on the eastern side road going to the canyon, you're on washboard all the time. And that's about 35 miles of REALLY bad washboard.

There's no way I would pull my trailer to that parking lot. AND, when you get there, there's no facilities.

If I were you, I would just plan on getting up a little earlier at Goblin.

By the way, I called the Horseshoe Unit, and the Ranger said he would meet me in the Horseshoe parking lot and guide me down, if I would meet him at 9 in the morning. I said I would, and we did. He helped a great deal.

WRT oil production. It was my belief that yes, there was exploration there, but it was for Uranium, not oil.

If you've got any more questions, let's take it to PM, and not annoy the others on this thread.

Murrey

I for one find exchanges like this educational, so don't feel like it's bothering us. I believe one of the OP original ideas is to share information about these places we post.

Ken

Ag&Au 03-04-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by murreywalker (Post 1423063)
After Youngpeck's post, I began to question my description of the Great Ghost figure in a previous post.

Many do call it the "Holy Ghost".

And many others call it the "Great Ghost" because of its height. I have always known it as the GG. Here's one attribution.

Horseshoe Canyon - Canyonlands National Park

And another.
Horseshoe Canyon - Canyonlands NP, Utah - American West Travelogue

My opinion is that it's known as the GG amongst photographers, and HG, elsewhere.

Now that's my "anal" contribution of the month. :D

I found a description that credited the "holy" name to the local Mormon community way back when.

Ken

youngpeck 03-04-2014 12:12 PM

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For what it's worth (and I hope this is not too far off-topic) before the uranium exploration in the '50s there was quite a bit of oil exploration on the west side of the Colorado River all the way west and south toward Goblin Valley. Two of the prominent landmarks just west of Canyonlands National Park's Maze Unit (which is that portion west of the junction of the Colorado and Green rivers, and south of the "detached" Horseshoe Canyon unit by several miles) is Elaterite Butte and Elaterite Basin, so-named because of the "carbonaceous" mineral deposits, ie., shale oil, found there. This is arguably why such a magnificent, butte-, mesa-, and canyon-infested region remains outside of the actual park, and resides in the less developmentally restrictive Glen Canyon National Recreation Area.


I sense I ought to "quit talkin' and start chalkin'" and contribute my own photos to this thread. So here are two photos of the same locale, the second provided so as to provide a better perspective. The clues: it is in the Southwest, and is in a unit of the National Park Service. Anybody know where it is?

murreywalker 03-04-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by youngpeck (Post 1423116)
For what it's worth (and I hope this is not too far off-topic) before the uranium exploration in the '50s there was quite a bit of oil exploration on the west side of the Colorado River all the way west and south toward Goblin Valley. Two of the prominent landmarks just west of Canyonlands National Park's Maze Unit (which is that portion west of the junction of the Colorado and Green rivers, and south of the "detached" Horseshoe Canyon unit by several miles) is Elaterite Butte and Elaterite Basin, so-named because of the "carbonaceous" mineral deposits, ie., shale oil, found there. This is arguably why such a magnificent, butte-, mesa-, and canyon-infested region remains outside of the actual park, and resides in the less developmentally restrictive Glen Canyon National Recreation Area.


I sense I ought to "quit talkin' and start chalkin'" and contribute my own photos to this thread. So here are two photos of the same locale, the second provided so as to provide a better perspective. The clues: it is in the Southwest, and is in a unit of the National Park Service. Anybody know where it is?


Is this located in the Maze district of the Canyonlands?

youngpeck 03-04-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by murreywalker (Post 1423274)
Is this located in the Maze district of the Canyonlands?

No--it's in Arizona, and you can drive on pavement to within a quarter-mile of this vantage point.


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