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08-14-2012, 01:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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Special order Bubble
Ouch! I learned today that when replacing the original special order hydraulic brakes with an electrical system it gets complicated. Backing plates won't fit the spindles and there are hub conflicts too. The surge system is just a big mess that needs cleaning up. So, a new drop axle and brakes is in order. Gives time to work other things, however.
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09-28-2012, 12:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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The same, almost, not quite
For general interest and those that do want to see. Here are some side by side pics of the same year, same factory shop (LA) but different . Here are the comparisons of a 1956 Flying Cloud and a 1956 Bubble. Obvious at first, thanks to Pat McDowell pointing it out, are the roof panel widths of the center panel. Just the general downsizing.
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10-25-2012, 10:28 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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Things I am learning from this
I had heard about making your own ABS sealant/cement. I finally needed to use some and decided to try the recipe...
Took a piece of ABS sewer pipe and drilled and scraped enough shavings to fill a small baby food jar. I had no acetone....so I used MEK....filled the jar with both components and let it dissolve overnight. Then next day used a wooden stick to apply the mixture....now a smooth paste...as a sealant on a black tank fitting installation. Worked perfectly.
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10-25-2012, 10:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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floating floor thickness
Another thing I learned is that the clearance between the floor surface and the closed "door within a door" are so close as to affect door closing and threshold installation. A quarter inch floating floor does not allow an aluminum threshold to clear the bottom of the door. Remeasure...trim...fit...
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10-25-2012, 10:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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belly pan removal
I had to look inside the belly pan for my own peace of mind. I found that by just cutting around the perimeter...about 8 to 10 inches under the side curve....I could see everything, work where I wanted and reinstall new belly pan aluminum with sanitary flat sheet aluminum ....all without fighting the curved sides, the outriggers or tucking under the side rails.
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10-25-2012, 10:47 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
1984 31' Airstream310
Ajo
, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
.so I used MEK....filled the jar with both components and let it dissolve overnight. Then next day used a wooden stick to apply the mixture....now a smooth paste...
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Well done. MEK is great stuff! I've had good luck with cleaning cracked fairings with MEK and using fibreglass cloth and ABS glue (which contains MEK), as well. M
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10-25-2012, 11:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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clean it, POR it, insulate it
Had to get that stinky moldy mousey smell out....and do it right. I cut the belly pan out at the lower perimeter, pulled the "stuffings" out. Bleach with a hand sprayer. Painted the entire underside wood with a quality porch paint. Vulkemed all edges and floor penetrations. POR everything including my shirt (soaked thru to my skin and you know how that went..) and hair. Applying POR with a brush while upside down under a trailer results in drips...etc., etc. Measure and installed insulation...I used 1 inch aluminum faced foam in three layers. Kind of an experiment because I wonder if belly insulation is necessary at all. Installed four louvered, stainless panels for air circulation and evaporation.....what the heck, I had 'em.
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10-25-2012, 11:20 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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Plan access...
What ever I do is based on future access. So that in mind I layed out an easily accessible electrical system. Open the hinged seat door cover and you have a wide open, lighted electrical system.
Please note the entire old electrical system sitting on the seat beside the open door.
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10-25-2012, 11:35 AM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
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Nice work, Robin. Is that Allure or real cork that you used for the flooring? Either way, it looks good.
Thank for sharing that work with us.
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10-25-2012, 11:36 AM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
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Lookin' great Rob! Will we see you this weekend?
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10-25-2012, 11:50 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 19' Globetrotter
South Kingstown
, Rhode Island
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Wow, what great looking work, you are an inspiration. Thanks for showing the pics and post on the belly pan- I dropped ours when I did the floor, but would like to get in there to see stuff without attacking the curved parts again.
Thanks
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10-25-2012, 12:41 PM
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Rivet Master
1997 30' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1981 28' Airstream 280
San Antonio
, Texas
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Very nice indeed!! I am jealous! You have TWO fantastic whale tails.
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10-25-2012, 01:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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Thanks to all....It is real cork flooring. That thickness is cause for my door fit now. Am rechecking electrical system now.
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10-25-2012, 01:52 PM
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Rivet Master
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Very nice work, as always!
Cheers to you Robin.
Rich the Viking
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10-25-2012, 03:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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Thanks to TOP
Lance dropped a note to me to recheck something on the electrical system. I did and it was a serious error on my part...he caught it. See the discussion here about 50 AMP service. Yay! 50 amp Service upgrade - Done I had connected both the neutral and ground to the common buss in the breaker box. That got fixed fast. Thanks everyone.
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10-31-2012, 09:13 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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moving along
Part of the belly pan work was the repair of the damage from a blow out on the right tire.
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11-11-2012, 09:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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Anyone really use a Panel Ray
I am down to cleaning up the heater and really want to use it if it is safe and efficient. Any input?
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11-11-2012, 09:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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next question on Zolatone stains
The previous owner glued an asswarmer pad on the rear wall by the bed. I am having a problem removing the stain. I want to preserve the Zolatone because overall the original elsewhere is perfect.
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11-11-2012, 09:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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"kitchen" area almost done
Got the stainless for the stove installed
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11-11-2012, 10:03 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1955 22' Flying Cloud
mapleton
, Utah
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 464
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Looking great Robin. If I remember correctly R.J. Dial rebuilt several of the panel rays in his vintage thread. Good info on controls and operation.
tim
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