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Old 08-19-2009, 01:13 PM   #81
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I got pictures and a progress report from Trailer Buff this week. Taking things apart can be very revealing. Elvis has seen some rough times. He's been in a flood (I was told this when I bought him), he's been in an accident (this I was NOT told) and the frame is worse off then we realized.

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"Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. Better than he was before . . . Better - Stronger - Faster.

There is a major list of things to do now. I'm at the point where final choices need to be made, some very soon. For instance, the tub is out for rebuild. I need to pick a color. I was originally thinking pink. Kind of a subtle nod to Elvis' pink cadillacs? Only better color than the tub's original dirty pink. Now I'm thinking maybe white. It would match the original sink which is in good shape. What if I got tired of pink?
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:38 PM   #82
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How could anyone get tired of PINK?


Sorry Dacia, that had nothing to do with Airstreams or the color of your tub. But PINK is my favorite color...
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Dacia,

It may sound odd, but I am glad your frame was in worse shape than previously thought. You will have a new and stronger frame to hold up Elvis' big rear end (Think 70's Elvis for you imaging folks). Fresh steel and better design will make Elvis better than the original would have been.

Do we get more pics (pretty Please)? This is like the list of baseball players who tested positive for steroids in 2003. Every 2-3 months we get a leaked name. We want the whole list and we want it now!

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Old 08-19-2009, 05:01 PM   #84
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Old 08-19-2009, 05:08 PM   #85
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Keep us updated on the choices you make. We all are traveling on this journey with you.

BTW, pink was a popular color for bathrooms in houses built in the 1950's (as was turquoise), but I would get really tired of either real quick. Oddly enough so was gray.
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Old 08-19-2009, 05:54 PM   #86
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I always say you should have lots of color in your life in order to live a colorful life. So, choose any color you like.


But do please remember who you named this trailer after..
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oh, also.... I will give you a pink saniware toilet for your project if you like.
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:27 PM   #88
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"Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. Better than he was before . . . Better - Stronger - Faster.
yeah. and it'll cost about...6 million.

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Old 08-21-2009, 01:15 PM   #89
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yeah. and it'll cost about...6 million.

Lee Major's his not, but . . . uhmm, yeah, pretty much.

Frank, you are certainly one of the most colorful individuals I know. I very much appreciate you offer for the pink saniware toilet. Don't think I'm betraying Elvis completely, but after careful thought I've decided on a white tub. There will still be ways to hint at pink Cadillac bliss. Remember, my tub is built in with a surround.

Elvis's pink Cadillacs were actually pink AND white. He owned at least one famous pearl white Caddy, his 1960 Fleetwood limo with gold trim.



My Dad liked Elvis and liked Cadillacs too. Here's a couple of shots of the 1958 Caddy I grew up with. He bought it at a West Palm Beach car used car lot in '62 or '63. It was white, big, and comfortable. We took countless family trips in it. That's Dad on the far right with the black hair.

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I loved that car. Dad loved it too but Mom hated it. She said it was like "driving the Queen Mary". We drove it until it near died in '75. Dad let me drive it (without a driver's license in spite of Mom's protest) to the junk yard. What I wouldn't give to have this Caddy back now!

Believe me Frank, I won't disappoint you. You will still see lots of color in Elvis.
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a friend of mine has a 58 caddy just like that, ('cept it's black) sitting in a garage, waiting patiently for that "some day" to arrive to be restored.
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Dacia,

As long as you don't take the color to this extreme, you should be fine. By the way, do you know if this BBQ shack is in TN? I may have to make a pit stop there while visiting you this week!!!!

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On Edit...this is Marlowe's in Memphis, TN. YAHAWWWWWWWWW! I'm going!
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Chuck, if "someday" never comes, tell your friend to give me a call. I'll just bet a '58 Caddy would pull Elvis just fine. The trunks in those things were HUGE - big enough to hold maybe four bodies.

Steve, no pink BBQ pig Airstreams in Chattanooga, but I can take you to Petunia's Silver Jalapeno. Chattanoogas best fish taco from the Taco Babes! - Petunias Silver Jalapeno

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Put it on the list of things to do. We are going there.
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The next time we're in Chattanooga I will have to look up Petunias Silver Jalapeno. Maybe you could show us the ropes.
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Old 08-23-2009, 06:08 AM   #95
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Will do, come on up anytime!
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I just caught up! Go white on the tub. Scratches won't show as bad. :-D

For what it's worth, I had to replace 5 cross members and 4 outriggers on my 18 footer frame... and that trailer is half the length of yours!

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I just caught up! Go white on the tub. Scratches won't show as bad. :-D

For what it's worth, I had to replace 5 cross members and 4 outriggers on my 18 footer frame... and that trailer is half the length of yours!

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Affirmative, the tub will be white. The toilet too. Last week, thanks to Combatmedic pulling me into the clearance isle, I found a Thetford Aria Classic low profile at Camping World for $120 less than PPL's best price. A quick call to Trailer Buff to confirm compatibility and it was mine. More weight than plastic, but you gotta love a china throne.

JP, I hope you don't find the same frame issues with your '54 Liner especially since we both have far forward axles for trailers so big. We've found that Elvis was originally meant to be a 26 or 27 footer. It appears that when the order for a 30 footer came in (at the end of the production year no less) Airstream simply added more rear frame to a shorter one laying around the factory. To top that, they used a thinner gauge metal with no reinforcement for the extra ear weight. Rear end sag wasn't exclusive to the 70's models.
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JP, I hope you don't find the same frame issues with your '54 Liner especially since we both have far forward axles for trailers so big. We've found that Elvis was originally meant to be a 26 or 27 footer. It appears that when the order for a 30 footer came in (at the end of the production year no less) Airstream simply added more rear frame to a shorter one laying around the factory. To top that, they used a thinner gauge metal with no reinforcement for the extra ear weight. Rear end sag wasn't exclusive to the 70's models.
Really? Was yours just spliced together? WEre the sides puckered out any at the wheels? That's usually a sign. I think mine is just slightly, but I'm not sure if it's from that, or having the tires manhandled in there (aka, pull out the skin to make room for the hub).

SO, what are you doing to address the sag?

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Dacia,

To restore your faith in the goings-on at the the Airstream factory in the 50's, it is sound engineering practice to use lighter material at the extended end of a cantilevered structure. This is not to say that the whole shoot'n match was sufficiently engineered to withstand the punishment Elvis has probably received over the last half Century. As we all know, even standing in one place for 50 years can make a few things sag.

It's good to see that Elvis has found an owner willing and able to do what it takes to shore up his loins and get him all gussied up for another 50 years.
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Really? Was yours just spliced together? WEre the sides puckered out any at the wheels? That's usually a sign. I think mine is just slightly, but I'm not sure if it's from that, or having the tires manhandled in there (aka, pull out the skin to make room for the hub).

SO, what are you doing to address the sag?

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JP, I don't know if "spliced" is the right word. I'm going on what Trailer Buff has told me and I never noticed puckering at the wheels. I wouldn't have known to look. To address the sag, it's a shell-off complete frame restoration/rebuild.

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To restore your faith in the goings-on at the the Airstream factory in the 50's, it is sound engineering practice to use lighter material at the extended end of a cantilevered structure. This is not to say that the whole shoot'n match was sufficiently engineered to withstand the punishment Elvis has probably received over the last half Century. As we all know, even standing in one place for 50 years can make a few things sag.

It's good to see that Elvis has found an owner willing and able to do what it takes to shore up his loins and get him all gussied up for another 50 years.
Thanks, Steve. It's good to know there was some engineering logic involved. You do restore some faith with your explaination. And you are right. I don't think anyone at the factory would have expected Elvis to be structurally sound today had they known what he would go through. It's practically a miracle that any trailer used as extensively as this one would even be intact.

Sagging after 50 years? No comment!
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