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Old 07-21-2009, 06:41 PM   #1
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I'm going this weekend to pick up the latest addition to the herd. It says it's a 54 Sovereign, but the pics of the back look vertical, not sloped, which i think make it a 1953. Looks great in the pics! Can't wait to see it in person. Here's some details:

rear twin beds
midship wet bath (street side) no tub.
13 panel end caps

It's got lots of potential! And interestingly, not as many windows as most Sovereigns. I dunno what I plan on doing with it yet. Probably do a complete resto in a few years, once I get the other trailers up to snuff. The old big ones don't come along that often. At least I got one!

I think I need to find a home for the globe trotter project. I'm running out of parking spots!

More this weekend, after my rescue mission to get her!

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Old 07-21-2009, 06:53 PM   #2
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Hi all,

I'm going this weekend to pick up the latest addition to the herd. It says it's a 54 Sovereign, but the pics of the back look vertical, not sloped, which i think make it a 1953. Looks great in the pics! Can't wait to see it in person. Here's some details:

rear twin beds
midship wet bath (street side) no tub.
13 panel end caps

It's got lots of potential! And interestingly, not as many windows as most Sovereigns. I dunno what I plan on doing with it yet. Probably do a complete resto in a few years, once I get the other trailers up to snuff. The old big ones don't come along that often. At least I got one!

I think I need to find a home for the globe trotter project. I'm running out of parking spots!

More this weekend, after my rescue mission to get her!

JP
JP,

Congrats, I have been watching that one. It is just like my double door, except, of course, you have only one door and it is in much better shape.

The exact year is debatable. We all assume that RJ's site is correct, but you have an Ohio built trailer with the serial number 5018, mine is 5006. The factory opened in 1953, just how many could they have build in 1953? It could very well be that both of ours are 1954s and the sloped back did not come about until 1955.

Liner2 on his site has different window locations than ours, maybe that one is a California trailer?

Regardless, again congrats and good luck. Now I know who to contact about original cabinets and construction.

Hopefully, we can get together some day and compare trailers. The long 1953 or 1954 trailers are very rare.

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Old 07-21-2009, 07:16 PM   #3
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Cool! I'd love to see pics of yours, too. The one I just got on eBay looks really complete. That's hard to find these days. I REALLY like the rear bedroom, midship bath, and the fact that it looks to be relatively dent-free. WHat a nice surprise that would be.

I need to get my rescue equipment together tomorrow. That's when all the other airstreams come in handy! each can donate a wheel or 2. ha! I hope they're 6 lugs on the sovereign. He also said it was a 2 5/8 ball, not a 2. That must be a recent addition.

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Old 07-21-2009, 07:23 PM   #4
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That's great JP, I'm really looking forward to seeing it.

I looked at a 56 Sovereign here in Austin a couple of months back. The owner wasn't sure if he was going to sell it or not, I gave him my card but never heard back, and I drove by the lot a couple of days ago and it's no longer there. But, my wife would have killed me if I had bought it anyway, so that's probably a good thing.

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Old 07-21-2009, 07:47 PM   #5
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Cool JP!

Dacia was telling me last night about you looking at this trailer on Ebay.

I can't wait to see what you do with it.

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Old 07-21-2009, 07:56 PM   #6
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This one is going to be (pardon the pun) WAY down the road! Need to finish the tradewind and 18 footer, and do something with the trotter project first. NO MORE HOBBIES FOR ME! I'm all full! ha!

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Old 07-21-2009, 08:56 PM   #7
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Cool! I'd love to see pics of yours, too. The one I just got on eBay looks really complete. That's hard to find these days. I REALLY like the rear bedroom, midship bath, and the fact that it looks to be relatively dent-free. WHat a nice surprise that would be.

I need to get my rescue equipment together tomorrow. That's when all the other airstreams come in handy! each can donate a wheel or 2. ha! I hope they're 6 lugs on the sovereign. He also said it was a 2 5/8 ball, not a 2. That must be a recent addition.

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JP,

I hope you meant 2 5/16" ball which is most likely a newer addition. The wheels should be 6 lug on a 30'r if they are 15" wheels. I wish you luck and safe travels getting her home.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:01 PM   #8
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I'll bet most of us have been following that trailer on eBay. So great it's going to a really good home where it'll have a great future.

Congrats on getting a 13 panel.

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Old 07-21-2009, 09:04 PM   #9
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Another one? Dang Jordan, what you need is a hobby to get yer mind off aluminum. BTW, we have free parking in McDonough if'n you run of room at yer place.

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Old 07-21-2009, 09:25 PM   #10
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Cool! I'd love to see pics of yours, too. The one I just got on eBay looks really complete. That's hard to find these days. I REALLY like the rear bedroom, midship bath, and the fact that it looks to be relatively dent-free. WHat a nice surprise that would be.

I need to get my rescue equipment together tomorrow. That's when all the other airstreams come in handy! each can donate a wheel or 2. ha! I hope they're 6 lugs on the sovereign. He also said it was a 2 5/8 ball, not a 2. That must be a recent addition.

JP
JP,

There are several pictures in my thread: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f334...ner-17291.html Start one of your own, we need two in that sections.

My Liner had a 2" ball, so make sure of what you have, I changed it to a 2 5/16" to match my Safari.

The Liner originally had 5 lug split rims, but this trailer does not have the split rims. In addition, there was a locator pin on the drums and a hole in the wheels.

I have attached a picture of the wheels and the floor plan which Fred C sent me. He has a complete brochure.

Bill
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:41 PM   #11
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Welcome to the Liner/SOTR club!

I knew this one had your name on it. And this time you didn't have me competing against you for it either.

Congratulations! I'm tickled pink for you.

The offer for the extra wheels from my SOTR still stands if you need them for anything. My coupler was for a 2 5/16s ball. If you need to use it to get her home, stop by the house on the way to Kentucky.
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:33 AM   #12
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The Liner originally had 5 lug split rims, but this trailer does not have the split rims. In addition, there was a locator pin on the drums and a hole in the wheels.

I have attached a picture of the wheels and the floor plan which Fred C sent me. He has a complete brochure.

Bill
Wow! Thanks for all the info! Nothing like another old airstream to get me hooked on the forums again. :-) I haven't been on here in a LONG time. My trailer is identical to the one in the brochure. I'd love to see more original pics on it, if you have them.

On the wheels, when you say "this trailer does not have split rims" are you referring to yours or the one I bought? I definitely don't have any extra 5 lug wheels lying around here, so that could be a problem when I go to get it.

I guess the vertical back side could be a 54, then? Again, I'll know more this weekend when I go to get it. Quite exciting! the ad says overall length of 29 feet, too. I like that. It's so hard to tell from the pics how long it really is. Believe it or not, I've got pretty tight quarters here to turn things around.

It looks like we're going to be looking for a lot of the same parts (like the tail lights, for example). Let me know if you find a source. I'm kicking myself now for selling the heater pipe off a 54 last year on eBay... who would have known??

ANYWAY, I'll post some pics from the ad. More this weekend from me, hopefully!

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Old 07-22-2009, 04:42 AM   #13
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I've started a new thread here. Sorry for posting it under the wrong section! I won't be updating this thread anymore.
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