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02-04-2009, 04:16 PM
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#301
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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We've also selected our countertop laminate...
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02-04-2009, 04:18 PM
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#302
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
We've also selected our countertop laminate...
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...yes... well...?
by the way, where are you sourcing both the marmoleum and laminate?
-Marcus
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02-04-2009, 04:26 PM
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#303
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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A bit anxious are we?! ;^)
Sorry I hit send too soon...
...it has a real "retro" look to it, very similar to laminates of the 50's. The color is a spot on match with the background color of our Zolatone - a "light chocolate milk" color and kinda looks like fabric. Nevamar Vision Vava #VA-2002
Shari
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02-04-2009, 04:30 PM
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#304
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by utee94
...yes... well...?
by the way, where are you sourcing both the marmoleum and laminate?
-Marcus
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I'm a Commercial Interior Designer...so I am able to get alot of the materials at cost from vendors I use. The linoleum we are having installed by the same guy that did our '64 GT Gerry Lynch - Lynch Floorcovering. He did a fabulous job on the first one...so we're having him do it again.
We haven't yet purchased the laminate - so I'm not sure exactly who we are going to get it from.
Shari
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03-16-2009, 09:58 PM
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#305
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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It's been a couple of weeks since I last posted to this thread...but we have been busy, Busy, BUSY working on Birdy!
We got the linoleum installed...we're really happy with how it ties the Zolatone & the cabinet finish sample together. There is woodwork between the floor and the walls everywhere in this trailer and the grey & orange-ish flecks in the linoleum are a perfect blend of the walls and the wood.
Shari
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03-16-2009, 09:58 PM
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#306
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
It's been a couple of weeks since I last posted to this thread...but we have been busy, Busy, BUSY working on Birdy!
We got the linoleum installed...we're really happy with how it ties the Zolatone & the cabinet finish sample together. There is woodwork between the floor and the walls everywhere in this trailer and the grey & orange-ish flecks in the linoleum are a perfect blend of the walls and the wood.
Shari
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Shari,
Did you use sheet, squares or click panels?
Bill
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Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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03-16-2009, 10:00 PM
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#307
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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We used the sheet linoleum and had the one seam welded. We have had the same (different color) in our '64 GT for 8 years and love it.
Shari
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03-16-2009, 10:11 PM
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#308
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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We also decided on the wood finish and got to work on the first batch of cabinets. Being that we are doing this whole thing in our garage instead of an oversized shop, we figure it will take about four or five batches of finishing.
We have two different formulas for the color-matching of old birch and new solid &/or birch veneers. For the old wood (which is oxidized with age) we are using one coat of a 4:1 ratio of clear to amber Shellac. The new wood (which is lighter) we are using one coat of straight amber Shellac. Then each are coated withe four coats of General Finishes Arm-R-Seal Urethane in a Gloss finish.
Shari
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03-16-2009, 10:18 PM
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#309
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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We used some long reach clecos to test fit the uppers before riveting them in place. Worked great!
Shari
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03-16-2009, 10:33 PM
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#310
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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The inside of the upper cabinets were painted with an oil based paint that is pretty close in color to natural birch. The original angles that held the upper cabinets to the walls were pretty rough...we used a shrinker/stretcher to bend a continuous extruded aluminum angle instead of the snipped/bent sheet aluminum. The cabinets and angles were all originally Zolatone (then painted by the PO) so it all blended together. Now that there is contrast between the wood and angle, it had to be cleaned up. Here's a pic of the angle for the curbside upper before it was installed....the streetside angle is the same but not curved.
Shari
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03-16-2009, 10:54 PM
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#311
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Then we riveted the uppers in place. The doors, drawers, medicine cabinet, dresser & kitchen cabinets are all done too. They are just set aside waiting to be installed. Next batch is the wall panels and shelving - which is all new birch using the old panels for templates and the closet & bathroom door frames which are all old wood. I was busy all weekend cutting the panels and stripping/prepping the frames...we hope to get them finished this week and complete by the end of the weekend. Then it will be on to the dinette and the beds ~
Also on tap, we ordered our Precision Temp ShowerMate insta-hot water heater today. Should arrive in about a week or so. Then Mr. InsideOut will get serious with the plumbing...in the meantime, he is working on making a new drip cap for over the door and polishing the vent stacks.
One last thing, we finally tested the 53 year old fridge...it worked! At least on propane...the electrical functions need some work, but gas is fine by me! That was a huge relief to my wallet...not having to buy a new fridge or have this one fixed! Now we can get to work cleaning this baby up ~
This is the fun part...putting things together and seeing progress.
Shari
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03-18-2009, 10:10 AM
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#312
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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Beautiful work on the cabinets, Shari. The interior is going to look amazing.
-Marcus
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03-18-2009, 09:27 PM
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#313
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3 Rivet Member
1965 17' Caravel
Mountainous
, Utah
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 203
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Shari, could it be you who is giving the Zolatone demo at the FCU Vintage Rally? Hope so, I'll be there ready to spatter.
Dan
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03-18-2009, 10:08 PM
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#314
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
Shari, could it be you who is giving the Zolatone demo at the FCU Vintage Rally? Hope so, I'll be there ready to spatter.
Dan
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No, unfortunately we aren't going to be able to attend the FCU Rally...we are trying to get OUR restoration project done for this season - can't afford a weekend away this spring. Maybe next year ~
However, we will be having lots of restoration seminars at the RMVAC Rally...and our trailer will be done and there!
Shari
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03-21-2009, 06:16 PM
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#315
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Rivet Master
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Then we riveted the uppers in place. The doors, drawers, medicine cabinet, dresser & kitchen cabinets are all done too. They are just set aside waiting to be installed. Next batch is the wall panels and shelving - which is all new birch using the old panels for templates and the closet & bathroom door frames which are all old wood. I was busy all weekend cutting the panels and stripping/prepping the frames...we hope to get them finished this week and complete by the end of the weekend. Then it will be on to the dinette and the beds ~
Also on tap, we ordered our Precision Temp ShowerMate insta-hot water heater today. Should arrive in about a week or so. Then Mr. InsideOut will get serious with the plumbing...in the meantime, he is working on making a new drip cap for over the door and polishing the vent stacks.
One last thing, we finally tested the 53 year old fridge...it worked! At least on propane...the electrical functions need some work, but gas is fine by me! That was a huge relief to my wallet...not having to buy a new fridge or have this one fixed! Now we can get to work cleaning this baby up ~
This is the fun part...putting things together and seeing progress.
Shari
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Things are looking great. Congrats on the working fridge. Those old vintage units give so much personality to the coach.
Just curious as far as your tankless H2O heater, was there a particular reason you went with the ShowerMate instead of an RV500 or a Twin Temp model?
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03-22-2009, 10:03 AM
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#316
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugarfoot
Things are looking great. Congrats on the working fridge. Those old vintage units give so much personality to the coach.
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Thanks! We were thrilled the fridge works...it's so cool!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugarfoot
Just curious as far as your tankless H2O heater, was there a particular reason you went with the ShowerMate instead of an RV500 or a Twin Temp model?
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Yes. The RV500 is basically a replacement for a regular water heater - it requires a large hole on the side of the trailer. The ShowerMate can be installed so it vents out the bottom. The Twin Temp Jr. and Twin Temp are essentially the the same as the Shower Mate, except they have added cabin heating functions which we didn't want or need - the Jr. has fewer zones. And finally, cost:
RV500 - $1054
ShowerMate - $1450
Temp Temp JR. - $3250
Twin Temp - $4650
The reason we went with tankless to begin with is two-fold:
1) all our plumbing is up front and we didn't want the added weight of carrying water up there
2) aesthetics - we didn't want a ugly cover on the side of the trailer
Shari
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03-22-2009, 10:08 AM
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#317
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Rivet Master
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,116
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Thanks, Shari. Elvis will be going tankless and eventually the Tradewind, but I hadn't even considered the ShowerMate. Good info.
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03-22-2009, 10:58 AM
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#318
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3 Rivet Member
1965 17' Caravel
Mountainous
, Utah
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 203
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Shari,
If I went for the ShowerMate for my 65 Caravel, do you think I could vent it out through the original Bowen shroud on the side of my trailer? Some people think those old aluminum Bowen shrouds are ugly, I personally think they're a work of art and much prefer it over Atwood type covers.
Dan
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03-22-2009, 03:48 PM
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#319
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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The ShowerMate has a flexible S.S. hose vent...I don't see why it couldn't be rigged up to go behind a Bowen shroud. I totally agree, I think they are very cool!!!! Birdy didn't have one, but Maxwell does. If/when we change out Maxwell's water heater we will do whatever it take to keep the Bowen shroud.
Shari
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03-23-2009, 08:11 AM
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#320
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,092
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Visited Shari and her workshop on Friday. Wow! The Zolatone in Birdie is as great looking as the photos, maybe better. I asked if she had re-skinned the inside, since I couldn't see any old holes. Nope, put a pop rivet in the hole, Zolatone it, and it is totally invisible!
Shari's work in rescuing the old cabinetry is amazing--it preserves that great 30s look. Can't wait to see it installed. This is a shot of her small but well-organized back yard.
Shari, thanks for the tour!!
Zep
PS--I know Shari will say her husband has a lot to do with this, but I don't believe it...
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