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Old 04-17-2013, 05:47 AM   #1
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A Cloud named 'Spoon'

I thought I'd start a thread on our newest trailer. I'm not sure how this will go, but will try to keep it updated. To start with, having done many hot rods over the years, 'the tear down " is always exciting. We have found some very interesting things in the process. Of course change, old match covers, some still working after many years of dormancy. bobby pins, lighters , once several empty revolver casings, and of course lots of crud and dirt!!
Our 54 Flying Cloud made an uneventful trip from Lexington Ky, to Mich. on Sat. Immediately Sunday after church, Karen and I dove in to "clean" her up, or rather remove the whole interior. We stored what we thought would be possible resto parts and hauled of so far two loads of the not to be used stuff. Not much junk in this one- some old plates, a green tinted aluminum drinking cup, a medicine cabinet full of all the sixties type stuff in tubes, cans, and bottles, some old two sided razor blades, and a fairly huge pile of brochures from Yellowstone, Glacier, and the Grand Canyon.... all dated '77 & '79 At some point the old stove was wrestled out and in the middle of the move her name became apparent. Out fell an old silver spoon. We kept in and dubbed her "The Silver Spoon". As of last night she is empty, and the real work begins,now then that's the start of this project ... pictures to follow.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:20 AM   #2
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aww. it's kind of a shame all the vintage stuff (plates, brochures, etc) got chucked already? It was not something other folks (ebay) might find as treasures?

Pics, please!
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:16 AM   #3
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Yea I thought about that,... afterwords...., I got a grainier full of 'stuff' already. I'm a border line hoarder sometimes when it comes to old stuff that I "might" need some day, esp car parts, and now apparently AS related paraphernalia. That said I do still have a box of old screws, brackets, dirt,crud wet insulation, rivet heads, and mice do do I'd gladly offer up to those that have already done a resto, and miss the nostalgics of new beginnings.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:05 PM   #4
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Today was clean up the inside day along wih starting to take the inside panels off..... Has a cool little 10 gal fresh water tank....
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:09 PM   #5
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A couple outside pics and a strange awning set up. I was told it was a roll-up awning and those are strap tie dwons, but what are the ones on the ends?
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:16 PM   #6
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and the obligatory 'whale tail"
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:46 PM   #7
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:22 PM   #8
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the ones on the ends are loops to thread the rope that allows the "rope and pole" awning to be set up by one person (in theory). You start the sewn welt at one end and pull through to the other end while feeding smoothly from where you teeter precariously on your chair or step ladder.
Actually works pretty well with a little practice.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:28 PM   #9
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After another look it seems you might have additional hardware above and below the awning rail designed to possibly allow you to roll your awning and strap it to the side of the trailer instead of removing all the time. I would really appreciate it if you would take some close-ups of these and post them. Looks like a very useful idea.
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this is the first time ive seen the roll - up vintage awning and it is SOOOO cool. looks like maybe leather straps held it in place? Knowing what a PITA it is to place and remove a vintage awning, i can appreciate this hardware. Are you planning to keep it? Use it?
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I'll take a couple close ups tomorrow. As far as keeping/using it... that is so far down the line I haven't the foggest .....If not it would take a bunch of rivets to fill all the holes, each "loop" has three screws holding it in place!!
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There ya go, barry. The awning "tie downs" are a keeper. It will compliment the exterior look of the 50's. Awesome look! Great pictures.
By the way...i can wire indicator lamp for electric side of your water heater.
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Here are a couple of close ups of the 'catches... I wonder if maybe they clip on and off
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We worked on getting the inside panels down today... all except the end caps. Also pulled all the old wirings we could get to...Now we are in the middle of a thunderstorm w/ small hail and tornado watch,and it's still 74*
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Thanks goshawks00 for the closeups. I think if I can find something similar in stainless to rivet on I just might try this. It would be very nice not to have to completely remove and reinstall for short moves and much easier to secure in windy conditions.
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I'm still curious how it works... Maybe it's for a cover that buckles or clips on to the buckles to hold the awning up/ Any ideas?
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simplest solution would be to just roll up the awning and use either short straps with a hook at each end, or alternately a longer strap fed through the loops. Either one would utilize a simple cinch buckle to tighten. Simple and secure.
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So the interior is finally gutted... it's 38* out and I just finished taking down the two end caps. We are going to put in a wood panel interior, but need to do some wiring there first then decide whether to put the caps up and attach the 1/8" veneer to it, or install it w/o the end caps. Ideas?
We are still up in the air whether to put in bird's eye maple, to match the wood on the Ford 51 woodie, or go with the Baltic birch. I like both. Anyway we are way down the road before either happen. Things will begin to slow down now as it's about time for baby birds.

One thing that was funny, as I was working on the last cap rivets in the rear, the wife came in and walked back to see what I was doing... Suddenly the trailer did a wheelie and grounded out on the back bumper, was real glad I had blocked the wheels as she was ready to roll down the hill. Luckily when we moved foreword it came back down on the tongue jack without issues. Whew!!
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Stored the end caps in the grainery for now and worked on taking the floor out. Didn't take long and it's all out now except the front end piece. I made a quick pattern to check the front shape with the rear ...Luckily they are both the same. With that bit of info I left some of the front floor attached but took enough out that I could pull out the insulation and clean it up. Once the body comes off I will make duplicates from the existing front floor to match both ends.
The frame is in surprisingly good shape... I'll have to replace a couple of pieces and stiffen several others but all in all I'm happy with their condition.
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I did the same Wheelie in my driveway while doing the demo on my 55FC. A 5 gallon plastic bucket under the rear bumper fixed the issue.
I also found that the curves, while not exactly the same, were so close that when I recut I averaged them out to a 22" radius for perfect symmetry (made my OCD wife very happy). Note also on my 55 the front cuts are perpendicular while the rear are angled to match the slope of the stern, 107 degrees IIRC, so remember to add an appropriate amount of length there. I also took the time to add stainless steel hold down plates since it is easy now-much harder later.
I was really amazed at how light and balanced these trailers are when empty.Quite easy to lift the tongue and roll it around the yard solo.
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