Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-30-2021, 07:27 AM   #81
Rivet Master
 
dbj216's Avatar

 
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
Conifer , Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 6,721
Images: 1
I just finished installing a MaxAir vent fan in the 69 Globe Trotter 21'. The old fan had a broken blade, and wasn't very effective. I must say the Max Air is a well designed piece. It has a "variable fan speed" control, it runs in reverse creating a "ceiling fan" experience, it has a tinted plastic cover that allows some light in, but not Colorado glaring sun, and it has a permanent rain shield so if you leave the vent open, you don't get wet.

I had to enlarge the opening a bit so it would fit, and I had to make a "picture frame" between the exterior skins and interior skins for the mounting screws to attach to. Thin Airstream aluminum on the roof would not adequately support the MaxAir in my judgement.

The Fantastic Fans are along the same line, but I don't have experience with them. My friend helped me install the MaxAir and he wants one or two for his Sovereign.

David
__________________
WBCCI #8607 VAC Region 11
KnowledgeBase trailer renovation threads: 69 Globetrotter, 76 Sovereign, 75 Overlander, 66 Trade Wind Such fun !
dbj216 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2021, 12:55 PM   #82
Rivet Master
 
kidjedi's Avatar
 
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aopsahl7 View Post
Talk to me about your ideas for the off road airstream.. I am all ears!
I've got a 31' Excella from which someone removed the middle (to repair another trailer). So if I put the front and back end together, I've essentially got a Bambi with all dual pane windows. I've been watching progress from a couple forum members who have installed Timbren axle-less suspension systems. Basically, you set up a trailer with four wheels and no axles, and each wheel has it's own suspension. It's a pretty cool system, and the guys who installed them are using them on 31' trailers, so a 17 foot "Bambi" shouldn't be a problem.

I already pull my 25' Landyacht with a diesel Jeep KJ 4x4, and I've been in some pretty crazy places, but with another 8 feet shaved off, no axles to hinder clearance, and four wheel independent suspension, I should be able to really take advantage of this cool place in which we live.

I have already been implementing systems and ideas that make four season boondocking much easier, so those will obviously be implemented: much better insulation with thermal barriers on all ribs, all mechanicals and lines grouped together for easier "freeze proofing" in winter, tanks set up to allow for four season use, an elevated sleeping platform to allow for space below for dogs and storage as well as an isolated area that is easier to heat/cool in extreme situations, and so on.

I plan on using Coosa or hopefaully sourcing the material that Airstream is now using for subfloors (depending on how well it works in the field), and building out the underside to be tougher than typical (reinforcement, undercoating, not housing items that are fragile, etc.).

This trailer will also be quite a bit lighter than stock Airstreams.

My goal is to have a short, custom Airstream that looks really cool going down the road, but can also access spaces that a "regular" Airstream can't go.
__________________
25' 1972 Airstream Trade Wind Land Yacht (heavily customized)
2006 Jeep Liberty CRD (diesel)
BeahmStream.com
kidjedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2021, 01:02 PM   #83
Rivet Master
 
kidjedi's Avatar
 
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 973
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbj216 View Post
The Fantastic Fans are along the same line, but I don't have experience with them. My friend helped me install the MaxAir and he wants one or two for his Sovereign.
I can confirm that with a little bit of modification, you can install a Fantastic Fan in an existing Airstream roof vent (the original vent). I have an "office" in my yard (the middle portion of a 31' Excella) that utilizes a Fantastic Fan in the original Airstream vent housing.

I have also been experimenting with various high capacity 12v computer fan set ups instead of a Fantastic Fan. They don't move as much air, but as such, they are much quieter. It becomes an issue of configuration to maximize airflow (multiple points of entry) and preventing water ingress.
__________________
25' 1972 Airstream Trade Wind Land Yacht (heavily customized)
2006 Jeep Liberty CRD (diesel)
BeahmStream.com
kidjedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2021, 01:53 PM   #84
2 Rivet Member
 
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by kidjedi View Post
I've got a 31' Excella from which someone removed the middle (to repair another trailer). So if I put the front and back end together, I've essentially got a Bambi with all dual pane windows. I've been watching progress from a couple forum members who have installed Timbren axle-less suspension systems. Basically, you set up a trailer with four wheels and no axles, and each wheel has it's own suspension. It's a pretty cool system, and the guys who installed them are using them on 31' trailers, so a 17 foot "Bambi" shouldn't be a problem.

I already pull my 25' Landyacht with a diesel Jeep KJ 4x4, and I've been in some pretty crazy places, but with another 8 feet shaved off, no axles to hinder clearance, and four wheel independent suspension, I should be able to really take advantage of this cool place in which we live.

I have already been implementing systems and ideas that make four season boondocking much easier, so those will obviously be implemented: much better insulation with thermal barriers on all ribs, all mechanicals and lines grouped together for easier "freeze proofing" in winter, tanks set up to allow for four season use, an elevated sleeping platform to allow for space below for dogs and storage as well as an isolated area that is easier to heat/cool in extreme situations, and so on.

I plan on using Coosa or hopefaully sourcing the material that Airstream is now using for subfloors (depending on how well it works in the field), and building out the underside to be tougher than typical (reinforcement, undercoating, not housing items that are fragile, etc.).

This trailer will also be quite a bit lighter than stock Airstreams.

My goal is to have a short, custom Airstream that looks really cool going down the road, but can also access spaces that a "regular" Airstream can't go.


That sounds awesome.

I am pretty happy with the height. Itís big but so is the ground clearance.

I am taking a similar approach with making it a true 4 season trailer as well as off grid!
__________________
1974 Ambassador (Boondock or Bust) - In Progress

Denver, CO
Aopsahl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2021, 01:54 PM   #85
2 Rivet Member
 
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by kidjedi View Post
I can confirm that with a little bit of modification, you can install a Fantastic Fan in an existing Airstream roof vent (the original vent). I have an "office" in my yard (the middle portion of a 31' Excella) that utilizes a Fantastic Fan in the original Airstream vent housing.

I have also been experimenting with various high capacity 12v computer fan set ups instead of a Fantastic Fan. They don't move as much air, but as such, they are much quieter. It becomes an issue of configuration to maximize airflow (multiple points of entry) and preventing water ingress.


I would have done the Maxxair but they are about 3X the price and I really just want the basic functionality of exhausting hot air when needed. I donít see myself running the fans when itís raining as I could always keep the big side windows open. We shall see!
__________________
1974 Ambassador (Boondock or Bust) - In Progress

Denver, CO
Aopsahl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2021, 02:04 PM   #86
Rivet Master
 
kidjedi's Avatar
 
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aopsahl7 View Post
I would have done the Maxxair but they are about 3X the price and I really just want the basic functionality of exhausting hot air when needed. I donít see myself running the fans when itís raining as I could always keep the big side windows open. We shall see!
You never need a fan in the rain... until you do. I have gone back and forth on this issue a lot. Mostly, I just don't like littering the top of the rig with all kinds of garbage that sticks up and takes away from the lines.

My land yacht has vent lids that tilt, but my Argosy has vent lids that lift uniformly (at all four corners)... if it's a gentle rain you can get away with keeping the non-tilting ones open.

I'm actually more for figuring out how to put fans in windows for cross-breeze. Any holes in the roof are mostly good for leaks.
__________________
25' 1972 Airstream Trade Wind Land Yacht (heavily customized)
2006 Jeep Liberty CRD (diesel)
BeahmStream.com
kidjedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2021, 06:22 PM   #87
2 Rivet Member
 
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by kidjedi View Post
You never need a fan in the rain... until you do. I have gone back and forth on this issue a lot. Mostly, I just don't like littering the top of the rig with all kinds of garbage that sticks up and takes away from the lines.

My land yacht has vent lids that tilt, but my Argosy has vent lids that lift uniformly (at all four corners)... if it's a gentle rain you can get away with keeping the non-tilting ones open.

I'm actually more for figuring out how to put fans in windows for cross-breeze. Any holes in the roof are mostly good for leaks.


Makes sense. I had Fantastic Fans on our old 21í Winnebago and it rained a few times when we needed the fans. I just raised the vent enough to let the air out and it worked. Definitely canít run them on the high setting but it moved enough air to be comfortable.

Completely agree on cross flow. Would be cool to have a powered side vent but again seems like overkill. My feeling is if itís too hot have another beer .
__________________
1974 Ambassador (Boondock or Bust) - In Progress

Denver, CO
Aopsahl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2021, 10:34 PM   #88
2 Rivet Member
 
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
Drilled out the rivers in all three roof vents. Had to do it from the interior which was challenging. Plus drilling over your head a good 50+ rivets is not fun. But it is done.

Tomorrow I will remove the old roof vents and get ready to install the fantastic fans and skylight.
__________________
1974 Ambassador (Boondock or Bust) - In Progress

Denver, CO
Aopsahl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2021, 10:56 AM   #89
Rivet Master
 
kidjedi's Avatar
 
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aopsahl7 View Post
Tomorrow I will remove the old roof vents and get ready to install the fantastic fans and skylight.
I assume you're saving everything, but I'd be interested in those old vents if you're just recycling them.
__________________
25' 1972 Airstream Trade Wind Land Yacht (heavily customized)
2006 Jeep Liberty CRD (diesel)
BeahmStream.com
kidjedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2021, 11:04 AM   #90
Rivet Master
 
Slats's Avatar
 
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City , Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 504
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aopsahl7 View Post
I need a 50x50 shop ha ha. But for now my project progress is based on the weather!

Yeah, well, I have one (or should say that my nephew graciously lets me use his). Sometimes I think I might be further along on my project, if working outdoors imparts any sense of urgency.
Slats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2021, 11:20 AM   #91
Rivet Master
 
kidjedi's Avatar
 
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slats View Post
Sometimes I think I might be further along on my project, if working outdoors imparts any sense of urgency.
In the midwest it does (it's gonna rain!).

In CO it doesn't. If it isn't sunny today, it will be tomorrow!
__________________
25' 1972 Airstream Trade Wind Land Yacht (heavily customized)
2006 Jeep Liberty CRD (diesel)
BeahmStream.com
kidjedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2021, 01:18 PM   #92
2 Rivet Member
 
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by kidjedi View Post
I assume you're saving everything, but I'd be interested in those old vents if you're just recycling them.


All yours! DM me.
__________________
1974 Ambassador (Boondock or Bust) - In Progress

Denver, CO
Aopsahl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2021, 06:16 PM   #93
2 Rivet Member
 
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by kidjedi View Post
In the midwest it does (it's gonna rain!).

In CO it doesn't. If it isn't sunny today, it will be tomorrow!


CO weather has a mind of its own and I love it. I schedule my work around the next days weather.
__________________
1974 Ambassador (Boondock or Bust) - In Progress

Denver, CO
Aopsahl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2021, 09:29 PM   #94
2 Rivet Member
 
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
Grabbed some pictures after getting the stairs back on.

I was in a bit of a rush on the year down that I realize I am missing some critical stair parts. Currently I have the stairs you see in the picture with the 4 bolts on. Itís actually functional in the down position but it obviously doesnít stay up as I am missing the levers etc. Any ideas?

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0381.JPG
Views:	10
Size:	554.9 KB
ID:	392118

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0380.JPG
Views:	10
Size:	493.2 KB
ID:	392119

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0379.JPG
Views:	9
Size:	441.3 KB
ID:	392120
__________________
1974 Ambassador (Boondock or Bust) - In Progress

Denver, CO
Aopsahl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2021, 06:11 PM   #95
Rivet Master
 
kidjedi's Avatar
 
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 973
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aopsahl7 View Post
I was in a bit of a rush on the year down that I realize I am missing some critical stair parts. Currently I have the stairs you see in the picture with the 4 bolts on. Itís actually functional in the down position but it obviously doesnít stay up as I am missing the levers etc. Any ideas?
I can take a look at what's missing when I come down there and we can compare it to mine and figure out how to replace what's needed.
__________________
25' 1972 Airstream Trade Wind Land Yacht (heavily customized)
2006 Jeep Liberty CRD (diesel)
BeahmStream.com
kidjedi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2021, 06:16 PM   #96
Rivet Master
 
dbj216's Avatar

 
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
Conifer , Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 6,721
Images: 1
Those folding aluminum stairs are neat, but kind of a pain. A replacement is maybe $850. I believe there are three kinds of bolts that hold the various joints together, and they are expensive too. I think we paid maybe $25 for each bolt.

Out of Doors Mart has step parts, for a price of course.

We could not get the up position retention mechanism to work right when we reassembled the stairs. So we just made a simple latch that holds the stairs up from the outside.

David
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1912 Step Outriggers Positioned-800x600.jpg
Views:	8
Size:	70.8 KB
ID:	392171   Click image for larger version

Name:	1910 Steps Out Front-800x600.jpg
Views:	8
Size:	64.1 KB
ID:	392172  

Click image for larger version

Name:	1912 Step Link Bolt Parts-800x600.jpg
Views:	9
Size:	73.4 KB
ID:	392173  
__________________
WBCCI #8607 VAC Region 11
KnowledgeBase trailer renovation threads: 69 Globetrotter, 76 Sovereign, 75 Overlander, 66 Trade Wind Such fun !
dbj216 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2021, 11:42 PM   #97
2 Rivet Member
 
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by kidjedi View Post
I can take a look at what's missing when I come down there and we can compare it to mine and figure out how to replace what's needed.


Very nice.
__________________
1974 Ambassador (Boondock or Bust) - In Progress

Denver, CO
Aopsahl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2021, 11:43 PM   #98
2 Rivet Member
 
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbj216 View Post
Those folding aluminum stairs are neat, but kind of a pain. A replacement is maybe $850. I believe there are three kinds of bolts that hold the various joints together, and they are expensive too. I think we paid maybe $25 for each bolt.



Out of Doors Mart has step parts, for a price of course.



We could not get the up position retention mechanism to work right when we reassembled the stairs. So we just made a simple latch that holds the stairs up from the outside.



David


Iíll look on out of doors and see what they have. I donít even know what I am missing.
__________________
1974 Ambassador (Boondock or Bust) - In Progress

Denver, CO
Aopsahl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2021, 06:09 PM   #99
2 Rivet Member
 
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
Started working on the roof. 1 fantastic fan in and 2 patches from the old TV antenna and plumbing vent.

Whoever thought roofing tar was a good idea should find a building to jump off.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0394.JPG
Views:	9
Size:	528.6 KB
ID:	392237
__________________
1974 Ambassador (Boondock or Bust) - In Progress

Denver, CO
Aopsahl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2021, 06:10 PM   #100
2 Rivet Member
 
Denver , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 92
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aopsahl7 View Post
Iíll look on out of doors and see what they have. I donít even know what I am missing.


They have everything. Just a lovely $150 in basic parts.
__________________
1974 Ambassador (Boondock or Bust) - In Progress

Denver, CO
Aopsahl7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
full-time living 1974 Ambassador fiarra Full-Timing 2 11-22-2012 12:49 PM
What is the Estimated Price for Full or Partial Restoration? coltmccoy General Repair Forum 54 04-02-2011 06:40 PM
Full Restoration Costs? MORA Dollars & Cents 13 06-05-2010 12:05 AM
Wire AWG (gauge) needed for full restoration. briheath Electrical - Systems, Generators, Batteries & Solar 6 06-07-2009 09:14 AM
Just Joined, Just Started a Full Restoration HamiBambi Member Introductions 10 07-06-2006 07:25 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.