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09-17-2015, 08:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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stay tuned
Hi Becky, I may have gotten in over my head here. The Liner was apparently in excellent condition as found....see photo. Then, as I always do, I started digging in and found many things I did not like at all. So, it looks like I will do another "make it for myself" project. I have to get rid of the others and make room. I hate to because they were all labors of love and done right. This one will be special but might be to big for my tastes. I got it because it was so rare and so nice already. Stay tuned.
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09-17-2015, 09:07 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
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How long is she? I like the fact that she has 2 axles unlike a lot of the long vintage traylas😊.
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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09-18-2015, 07:50 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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For any Vintage
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09-22-2015, 08:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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Liner floor work slow but sure
I have cut the 3/4 inch floor boards and painted with high grade porch paint for weather proofing I then coat the edges with a smoothed out Tempro sealant. I take the cut to size floor board and use it as a forming template for the .032 aluminum belly pan.
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09-22-2015, 08:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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frame clean up and POR
Frame was in great condition....except for the rear crossmember
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09-24-2015, 06:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
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You have made the frame look new. 3/4 subfloor and .032 belly pan. You build them to last. Great idea to use the cut to size floor as a forming die for the belly pan curve. I had much difficulty with the rear curved belly pan segments on my 66. I used .025 material instead of the .032. The fronts were the formed aluminum "banana wraps" that take the difficulty out of forming the compound curves. the 86 has plastic banana wraps in front making the job even easier once the mold is made.
There is a lot of good work that goes on in the red barn of yours.
David
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09-25-2015, 08:00 AM
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1950 Flying Cloud 7039
1950 21' Flying Cloud
Allen
, Texas
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As I repair damage from a tire blowout I offer this suggestion. While you can, replace the wheel wells with sturdy steel. The thin galvanized wells do not hold up well to a tire thrashing. Also just behind the wheels reinforce the floor. Maybe screw a steel sheet to bottom of the floor.
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09-25-2015, 08:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1997 30' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1981 28' Airstream 280
San Antonio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FC7039
As I repair damage from a tire blowout I offer this suggestion. While you can, replace the wheel wells with sturdy steel. The thin galvanized wells do not hold up well to a tire thrashing. Also just behind the wheels reinforce the floor. Maybe screw a steel sheet to bottom of the floor.
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Good advice for when doing a rebuild. I have considered that.
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WBCCI# 9259 AIR# 38927 TAC-TX 14
Stop Littering-Spay & Neuter-- Adopt From Rescue
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09-28-2015, 04:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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floor boards an fit
I am using 3/4 inch scrap wood to hold the side wall and floor spacing. This seems to be the most difficult task so far.
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10-05-2015, 09:09 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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carriage bolt installation
This might be a tip to some. In order to have a flush floor for final work I had to have a way to flush the carriage bolt head. Hammer just did not do it. So I used a hole saw and cut a 1/8th inch deep , +/-, groove. Then a chisel out the center piece. The carriage bolt now can be hammered in flush.
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10-05-2015, 11:37 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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slight diversion
I have to watch the weather here in Texas. I figured I should strip the end caps before the first freeze coming here in three or four weeks. Do the outside work while I can. Then things move inside the Red Barn. I am using Citristrip. I usually use Aircraft Stripper, but will try this now.
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10-05-2015, 05:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
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Great idea on "counter boring" the carriage bolt heads. I used carriage bolts and hammered and ground them flush the best I could. I suppose I should have purchased "elevator bolts". I also had trouble getting the carriage bolts tight. I elected to use lock nuts. So I ended up cutting a screw driver slot in the head of the carriage bolt.
Actually with your idea to counter bore. You could bore the hole big enough to get a thin wall socket in there. And then use a regular hex head bolt and not have the trouble I had. Or use a smaller counter bore and then a socket head cap screw and an Allen wrench to hold the bolt steady while tightening it from the bottom.
I need to learn how folks bolt their subfloor and c-channel with elevator bolts.
David
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10-12-2015, 06:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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still on the floor and pan
Still fastening the floor to the frame and the shell to the floor/frame.
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10-12-2015, 09:57 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1955 22' Flying Cloud
mapleton
, Utah
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I have a polishing question Robin.Since you have done way more 55's than I ever intend to, what is the sequence you've worked out? I have started with the caswell black compound on a vented wheel and I do have a cyclo available when I get to that point. So what do I do in between?
BTW- the bronze window screens look awesome!!!!
keep up the great work
tim
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10-13-2015, 12:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
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end caps
Finished up the stripping of the caps....that was not fun or easy. Twice around with Citri strip then brass brush, Aircraft stripper and aluminum wool. Now I have the cap braced up and I am starting the polish.
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10-13-2015, 04:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
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Looking good, Robin! I do recall that being a huge pain! You're making great progress, as usual :-)
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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10-19-2015, 12:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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Endcaps update
Got the Jetsco yellow wheel first and the Jetsco sisal with red bar done. Then, for the heck of it a quick wool pad check with the new Vintage Trailer Supply medium grade polish.
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10-26-2015, 07:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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todays fill in work
Before I do the finish up un the belly pan I thought I could do the busy work. I used the VTS product Airbright coarse...to start the polish of the newly stripped cabinets. The inside floors of the cabinets were very difficult because of accumulated food spills, etc.
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10-31-2015, 04:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
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OK...so starts the arguments. Insulation
Again....I will just use this forum area to paste in information I plan to use. I am looking at Prodex applications, rock wool/aluminum faced duct material and closed cell foam. Here we go... Stay Away from Foil-Faced Bubble Wrap | GreenBuildingAdvisor.com
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10-31-2015, 04:55 PM
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1950 Flying Cloud 7039
1950 21' Flying Cloud
Allen
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Red Barn Liner
Try this and let's us know how it works. http://www.amazon.com/BrickWood-Oven.../dp/B00L9DOJ8Q
http://inspectapedia.com/Energy/Insulation_Ceramic.php
In my tests the two things that make the most difference is the conduction of the ribs and the other thing is how clean and shiny the skins are. Not the the side you see but the inner sides. For the same reason that insulation is foil lined your inner sides should be shiny. This is to deter radiant heat. You will need air space as anything that touches conducts.
The sunlight hits the outside. White reflects this radiation best. But it will get hot. This heat will radiate, conduct and convect through to the inner skin. The inner skin will radiate it or convect it to you. Shiny aluminum surfaces radiate less than painted surfaces.
Maybe you can replace your roof ribs with homemade molded carbon fiber ribs 😄 a joke but I bet a better solution.
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