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Old 09-09-2021, 07:39 PM   #1
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Feedback on Caravel 16 and 19 ft

Im looking for feedback on pros & cons between the 16 and 19 ft Caravel. Been waffling back and forth for almost two years - its time to decide.

Im in love with the front/ back panoramic windows of the 16. Worry about: being too small, but mostly about the wet bath and one grey/black tank.

The 19 has extra space, separate shower along with separate grey/black tanks. But it looses the back panoramic window.
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Old 09-09-2021, 07:57 PM   #2
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So much depends on where you plan to camp and for how long.

For instance, if you plan to camp at a campground, suddenly, the panoramic windows give you a clear view of the trailers around you, and give those campers a clear view of you inside your trailer.

If you go boon docking on BLM land, the view from inside is better, but then, what are you doing sitting inside your trailer? Go outside! Also, if you are boon docking, the small tanks will be full after one weekend, typically.

IMHO, I find the trailer more useful as a camper/aluminum tent; a place to shower, sleep, and occasionally eat or prepare food; so the view whilst sleeping or showering is moot. What is really handy, on the other hand is the wall space to hang thing or for storage. I go outside for the big view; the regular windows still leave in plenty of light and air.
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Old 09-09-2021, 08:45 PM   #3
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I spent the last two weeks in a state Park and was certainly glad to have the view from the panoramic bedroom window during 2 days of continuous rain.
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Old 09-09-2021, 09:00 PM   #4
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Find a nice used 19' for similar pricing of a new 16' .. if I were you and you were me.
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Old 09-10-2021, 09:15 AM   #5
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i would get the 19'

if you want a great view, go outside.

combined grey water / black water tank is no bueno.

if you generate too much grey water, you don't want that blackwater backing up into your drains......
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Old 09-10-2021, 09:18 AM   #6
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Feedback on Caravel 16 and 19 ft.

I have had both of these sized Airstream trailers and the wet bath is a significant drawback. You sleep in the back on both models and the additional space in the 19 is more viable and enjoyable. Remember they are including the A-frame, so you are really talking 13' & 19'. The independent shower is a big upgrade. I'd never go back to the 16' (13'). Good luck.
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Old 09-10-2021, 09:39 AM   #7
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I have had both of these sized Airstream trailers and the wet bath is a significant drawback. You sleep in the back on both models and the additional space in the 19 is more viable and enjoyable. Remember they are including the A-frame, so you are really talking 13' & 19'. The independent shower is a big upgrade. I'd never go back to the 16' (13'). Good luck.


Its 16.5 inches to 19.5 inches
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Old 09-10-2021, 09:39 AM   #8
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Get the 19
You will find the shower and separate tanks are worth way more than the view which you won’t miss as much as the shower and double tanks
We have a 16. Moving up to a 23. 16 works for a single person. It has given wonderful service across the continent twice. Limitation is you need sewer service if camped for motte than 3 days
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Old 09-10-2021, 09:41 AM   #9
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We have the 16 and really love the windows. Its just the two of us so were happy with the compact size and find it versatile and easy to maneuver. The combination gray/black water tank isnt a problem as most of our camp sites have had dumps. Maybe I would not be so happy if boondocking more often.
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Old 09-10-2021, 10:10 AM   #10
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To me the 19 has way more advantages, only you can decide.
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Old 09-10-2021, 11:13 AM   #11
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We LOVE the 16! We have a 2014 27’ and the 2021 16’. We use the 16 way more. It is just so easy to be flexible and spontaneous on the road (and off). Yes, you do have to manage your holding tank. Drinking water can be brought along in a 5G bottle. We have solar and a 2500 generator which gives us plenty of flexibility. We find that the holding tank can last around 4 days off the grid for us. But nothing beats a panoramic window view from bed when you’re dispersed camping…. It is nice and cozy for you and your partner…
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:29 PM   #12
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Three feet longer twice as big.
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Old 09-10-2021, 01:25 PM   #13
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Dont confuse Bigger w. Better
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Old 09-10-2021, 01:30 PM   #14
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Im looking for feedback on pros & cons between the 16 and 19 ft Caravel. Been waffling back and forth for almost two years - its time to decide.

.. but mostly about the wet bath and one grey/black tank.
We LOVE our 2021 16 Caravel. My wife can feel claustrophobic in confined spaces and needed the panoramic bed window. We (she) books camp sites based upon the view and privacy. We DO NOT stay in cramped open sites. Looking up at the stars, waking to incredible sunrises (warm in bed), and the added openness while sitting at the dinette eating meals are all great pluses.

We are VERY frugal with our water usage, and we almost always dry camp or boondock. Hook up sites are a luxury we rarely go for. Weve gone 10 days before black combo tank had to be dumped and fresh water tank was empty. We usually go 4-5 days EASILY with black around 50%. Just saying, you can make it work. We capture water in the galley sink in a bowl and use that gray water in the toilet. We added a custom counter and sink in the bathroom and capture that water in a 1 gallon jug, and again use that in the toilet. We use body wipes instead of using the wet-bath shower (used twice, using about 8 gallons), or book camp sites that have showers available (much easier, has worked great).

We park our 16 in our driveway, with our truck, with just enough space to walk behind trailer to load and clean (19 would be a problem). This saves paying for a storage facility, or parking truck on the street. I love the ability to easily maneuver the 16 into ANY camp site.

Negatives of 16:
1) no bathroom sink (we fixed that with custom counter and stainless steel sink). 2) under bed storage is very difficult to access (I fixed with trays on 24 sliders, modified doors, and added motion sensor lights).
3) hood vent motor/squirrel cage extremely noisey and poor air flow (repaired, modified, still noisey but working now, mostly).
4) HATE the light switch/dimmer for ceiling lights over dinette & bedroom (place electrical tap over the hole inside cover to block annoying white light, and have built custom covers to prevent accidental activation while leaning back at dinette, or hitting the switch when in bed - VERY BAD). Same switches in 19.
5) Getting fitted sheets on the bed is a pain, but doubt 19 would be much better.
6) Bathroom is tight but manageable. We have teak floor which adds another 2. I have to duck my head a bit. I would prefer another light fixture all together, and more convenient switch location, but we rarely turn this light on (too bright, ugly yellowish stripes, too massive for location).

We (wife and I) have put almost 5,000 miles on our 16, just finishing a six week trip, ready to go out again. For us: Plenty of storage, easy to tow, tanks not limiting at all, windows are GREAT! Removed microwave and replaced with a drawer. 180w solar on roof, replaced AGMs with lithium Po4.

Other small modifications:
1) shelf under dinette table, between bench seating.
2) removed bottom curtain rail at dinette and bedroom (hated them).
3) two 4 deep shelves in bedroom for convenient places to put our stuff (glasses, phone/watch charging, hang keys), etc.
4) removed Blu-ray player and shortened box.
5) added shelves in all cabinets to increase capacity.
6) rebuilt silverware drawer and drawer under dinette bench to maximize storage capacity.
7) added USB charging port at dinette, since we DO NEED to charge devices there too, not just in the bedroom which is a difficult location to use as designed.

Your usage may vary, of course, but I hope this helps with your decision.

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Old 09-10-2021, 02:55 PM   #15
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Last night we slept with the widows open. 70 degrees inside, Florida bugs & mosquitoes outside. Stars amazing.
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Old 09-10-2021, 08:12 PM   #16
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Have you ever looked at a 20 footer? Amazing difference from a 19. And the best kitchen layout ever.
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Old 09-11-2021, 01:18 AM   #17
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We were looking hard at a 19CB. Ended up with a 20FB and glad we did. The bathroom is much bigger and the galley has significant increase in counter space and a large double wide stainless sink. Take a peek at the 20. Click image for larger version

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Old 11-20-2021, 11:32 PM   #18
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For whatever it’s worth, I’ve been very happy with our 16RB and we’ve only had it 6 months.

Recently I had to practically live in it for 6+ weeks both by myself and a couple weeks with my husband. He had minor complaints about the wet bath but I set it up to work well. I love a challenge. We camp with full hookups. Haven’t done any boondocking yet.

I love the layout of this little trailer.
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