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Old 06-04-2020, 01:41 PM   #1
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Caravel Fiamma bike rack

Has anyone installed a Fiamma bike rack on a 2020 Caravel 16? If so what size and types of screws did you use?
It seems in the videos that two of the screws on each arm go through a rib. The other two look kinda useless.
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Old 06-04-2020, 02:03 PM   #2
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It looks easy enough to install. Drilling into the aluminum is a bit scary.
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Old 06-04-2020, 02:13 PM   #3
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Has anyone installed a Fiamma bike rack on a 2020 Caravel 16? If so what size and types of screws did you use?
It seems in the videos that two of the screws on each arm go through a rib. The other two look kinda useless.
Do you have links for those videos?

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Old 06-04-2020, 02:22 PM   #4
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I’ve watch those videos. Informative but they don’t answer a few questions. Type and size of hardware required. If someone has installed one of these on a Caravel 16 I would be interested in the exact location and size 9hardware they used.

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Old 06-04-2020, 04:02 PM   #5
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So I rewatched the Airstream install video. I guess I missed it the first 10 times but it looks like the arms are attached with 4 #10 1 inch stainless steel screws. The two outer go through the rib. The two inners look like they don’t do much. Does that sound about right to those that have installed them?
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Old 06-05-2020, 10:04 AM   #6
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The Fiamma bike rack takes 4 #10, 1 inch long stainless steal to install on each side. I put one on the back of our 34' classic a year and a half ago. Coming back from California a year ago let December the left side arm broke, Fiamma sent me new parts free and I fixed it. This year heading to Arizona both arms broke and we lost both bikes and the rack. We just hope there was no accidents because of it coming off. It broke off at the pivots and the screws are still tight in the airstream. I am not the only one to have a problem with this rack.
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Old 06-05-2020, 10:19 AM   #7
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Thank you for speaking up about this issue. I have been on the fence about which way to go, Fiamma or custom hitch through the rear bumper. The 2 Fiamma's I have seen looked a bit flimsy. I'll stick to a Kuat and install a receiver.
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Old 06-05-2020, 10:36 AM   #8
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I installed one on our 19’ Tommy. All of the necessary hardware was included. It was not hard to install, but I was concerned drilling into the aluminum. In The end it is working great two years later.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:04 AM   #9
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Fiamma Bike Rack easy fix!

We installed our Fiamma bike rack on our 2015 FC-25 about three years ago. Very pleased with the ease of install and the ease of use in the years since. Over 10,000 miles of travel in the Midwest and east coast and Canada.


Early on, and reading the negative reviews on this website regarding the arms breaking, I did have a mild concern. We did discover one of the arm pivots broken during one short trip, which was temporarily repaired using a philips screwdriver and duct tape. What was happening was the vibration going down the road caused the arms to "settle" downward on the rack, thereby stressing the 'horizontal" hinge aluminum casting to the point of fracture. Once that breaks, there is no support from the arm.


After replacing the broken are, I solved any future problems by simply drilling a small pilot hole and screwing in a stainless steel round-head self-tapping screw immediately below the ideal position for the arm. This prevents any movement of the arm, prevents any stress on the cast aluminum hinge mechanism, and has lasted for the two years since the fix.


Simple, easy, and I would recommend anyone with the Fiamma rack do this before future travel. Replacement arms are pricey.


Fiamma should include such directions and the two screws in their package, for installation after the rack is mounted and ideal positions are determined. That would save them (and us) lots of replacement expenses!


Good luck. And I recommend the Fiamma rack for the Airstream units.
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Old 06-05-2020, 11:13 AM   #10
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we installed the rack on our 22FB
be sure to replace the cast alum hinges on the AS body with SS welded ones

the cast ones will breaks easyily

our pics are here
https://www.airforums.com/forums/f54...ck-201721.html
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Old 06-05-2020, 01:13 PM   #11
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Fiamma bike rack on Sport 16

I had a rear bumper and Fiamma on my Sport 16. I have not replicated the Fiamma bike rack program on my 19' Winick. The Fiamma arms breakage was a concern and are weight challenged for 2 bikes.

I have intentionally did not add a Fiamma to my 19' Winick. There are lots of lightweight folding bikes that can fit inside a TV available, minimizing space and logistics.

The advantages are easy access to rear bumper and rear storage compartment in addition to weight support issues and improved bike security. It is really a pain in the neck to access the rear storage compartment with the Fiamma rack too since it does not pivot vertically as with most receiver hitch mounted bike racks.

In summary, my first option is TV bike storage (offers more security and less struggle with bikes). I would choose a receiver hitch to mount to front of TV as the second option, the third option is rear-mounted AS receiver, and my last option is the lightweight Fiamma AS option in retrospect. Good luck with your choice.
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Old 06-05-2020, 01:21 PM   #12
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Thanks everyone! For Tommyglenn. Do you think that some small hose clamps would serve the purpose the same purpose? I think I understand your description. If you have time for a picture I would greatly appreciate it.
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Old 06-05-2020, 01:24 PM   #13
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How much weight did you have on the rack? I’m not accusing you of wrong doing . I’m just trying to get an idea of the issues.
Do you think it could have been caused by the same issue that tommyglen described?
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Old 06-05-2020, 01:29 PM   #14
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Additionally for tommyglen. Would it make sense to mark the position of where the arm connects to the rack with a permanent market to monitor slippage?
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Old 06-05-2020, 02:27 PM   #15
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Has anyone installed a Fiamma bike rack on a 2020 Caravel 16? If so what size and types of screws did you use?
It seems in the videos that two of the screws on each arm go through a rib. The other two look kinda useless.
I have a Fiama bike rack in Jupiter, FL to sell. I can tell you how,it is to be installed, as have done so on 2 Airstreams, a 23’ and 25’.
Call jim at 5617186161.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:57 PM   #16
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Fixed a bad install of Fiamma bike rake

We had a new Fiamma bike rack put on our 2018 Flying Cloud 23CB when we first bought it at the Airstream Adventures Northwest in Seattle. We traveled a lot and on our way back to Alaska, the left arm broke like most everyone here has talked about. My husband did a lot of research and bought some stainless steel screws and on our fall trip down to the Lower 48, we stopped in Seattle again and made them install it properly, which was putting the upper arms lower than they originally had done. They concealed the old holes with rivets. It worked fine for a cross-country trip with 2 Trek bikes for the rest of the fall. This spring, I had my 50 lb. eBike on it (without battery). Hope this helps.
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Old 06-05-2020, 09:25 PM   #17
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So one more question. What type of carriage bolts come with the rack? Galvanized zinc or stainless? Something else?
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Old 06-06-2020, 08:58 AM   #18
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Shiny16,

We had 2 townie bikes that weighed about 15 lbs each for a total of 30 lbs. Wen the first arm broke I attributed that to the I10 interstate in California as it was somewhat washboard form about 10 miles. But when we were told we lost the whole thing we were on I70 between Glenwood Springs and Parachute CO. The road was very smooth. Don't know if it is too much over hang from the tires to the end on our 34" trailer.
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Here's another option

I watched this, seems to be very sturdy and well made





Link to Kuat Sherpa
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Old 06-06-2020, 05:41 PM   #20
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Fiamma bike rack fix

Here is pic of the 25-cent fix for the Fiamma “breaking” arms.

Just a self-tapping screw!
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