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Old 12-31-2019, 11:12 AM   #1
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2020 27FB - Where is Your Converter?

While inspecting for issues on our new 2020 27FB GT, I found what I believe to be the converter laying in the wiring under the fridge against the wheel well. Is this common?
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Old 01-01-2020, 12:50 PM   #2
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Joe, does your GT have 30 or 50 A service? Being the curious type, I went out and checked our 2019 27' GT. I pulled the breaker panel and looked behind it but did not find the converter. Next, I checked under the wardrobe but only could see the water pump and furnace ducts. I could see the power plug on the wall but again, did not see the converter.

We toured the Airstream factory last April when our trailer was on the line and took the photo below of a GT in final assembly. You can see the converter next to the shower unit waiting to be put in position.

I would *hope* Airstream would throw a few screws in the converter's mounting holes to secure it. Maybe someone took a break and forgot to fasten yours before it was covered up?

Still looking for our converter! We have 50A service...

Good luck!
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Old 01-01-2020, 07:16 PM   #3
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Joe, does your GT have 30 or 50 A service? Being the curious type, I went out and checked our 2019 27' GT. I pulled the breaker panel and looked behind it but did not find the converter. Next, I checked under the wardrobe but only could see the water pump and furnace ducts. I could see the power plug on the wall but again, did not see the converter.

We toured the Airstream factory last April when our trailer was on the line and took the photo below of a GT in final assembly. You can see the converter next to the shower unit waiting to be put in position.

I would *hope* Airstream would throw a few screws in the converter's mounting holes to secure it. Maybe someone took a break and forgot to fasten yours before it was covered up?

Still looking for our converter! We have 50A service...

Good luck!
Jeff
Thanks Jeff. Ours is a 50A, we too visited Jackson Center to see it on the line, but ours was about 4 hours from being done when we saw it. Completion was the day before Thanksgiving, we were the next to last tour prior to the factory move.

I am just worried about it having proper ventilation and not being a fire hazard. I am not sure where it should be, but it doesn't seem to want to move any further towards the shower. For some reason my picture is upside down.
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Old 01-01-2020, 07:37 PM   #4
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Joe, good to know we both have 50A service. I agree with you about the airflow - you want to make sure the unit stays cool.

I reached out to another GT owner to see if he can check his unit. Hoping Bob has time to respond.

Is your photo taken straight on through the breaker panel opening or looking to the right (towards the shower)? Or did you take the photo from the access doors under the wardrobe?

I'll add two photos from ours; both taken through the breaker panel opening.
One you can see the shower (shot looking to the right) and the other straight on under the fridge.

Can you tell me where you found your converter in relation to either of my photos?
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Jeff, Thanks so much for your help. The picture is from under the wardrobe looking towards the lounge. It appears to be resting right behind the breaker panel.
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Mystery solved!

I heard back from Bob - he found the Inverter and 12v DC Panel under the curb side twin bed in the corner (will add photo). The inverter was secured with screws!

Following your tip about looking from the wardrobe side, I found the converted standing straight up in a pocket to the right of the breaker panel. I pulled the panel again, found a 110V cord plugged into the back of it and followed it to the converter. It’s not secured - just set in there.

I couldn’t pull it out because there’s a furnace duct in the way. I think I could disconnect it from the wardrobe access door and pull it back to get at the converter.

So, thanks to Bob for finding the inverter and Joe for sparking my interest to find the converter!
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Jeff, Thanks for looking, it is appreciated. I have my trailer at what was formerly Airstream of Western PA. They're chasing a couple water leaks (outside in) and I had them look at the converter. They made a stand for it behind the power center and securely mounted it.

Overall I am very happy with the Globetrotter. I don't know if I should have, but did expect some issues to chase down. There were issues on my 2009 23D the first couple years and I didn't expect this one to be any different.
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Thanks for bringing this up. I just checked my 2020 GT27FBT converter. It is not attached to anything laying loose on the floor under the refrigerator. I would hope this is not by design. I will be contacting Airstream on this. See linked video.

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On my 2018 the converter was laying loose between the fuse panel and heat vent and not fastened to anything. I purchased an upgrade converter and has JC install it on the left wall behind the panel the heating vent comes out of. It is accessible in that location, off the floor and secure so it can’t bounce around while traveling.
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GOUSC, I guess these are jest set in loosely. Mine is now mounted on stand-offs above the floor behind the power center. I hope to get a chance to take a picture sometime soon. My GT should be moving from the shop to storage sometime in the near future.
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At the (very) end of last summer’s Alaska trip, my converter went bad. Not sure if it was the fan or something inside the unit but it buzzed loudly when plugged into AC and charging. So that had me looking for it. It was behind the charging panel, sort of between the vertical space for the fridge and the wardrobe—very hard to see or get to. It was as others have mentioned just laying on the floor, and furthermore it had rattled around enough that it had ripped a hole in the ductwork right behind it. It’s among the warranty items being addressed at JC now.

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I purchased an upgrade converter and has JC install it on the left wall behind the panel the heating vent comes out of. It is accessible in that location, off the floor and secure so it can’t bounce around while traveling.
GOUSC, any chance you have a photo of that install and can give me a pointer on the model you replaced the stock unit with? I’d like to instruct JC to do the same (they called me about it on Friday, actually).
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It is behind the furnace vent panel. When JC installed they used too long of scews and they came out the back side of veneer and started shredding the divider curtain. Just a caution if JC does the work.
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I got my converter mounted to the floor behind the power center. It has ample ventilation and will not damage itself or something else. I am glad to have found this before it is an issue.
It is now in storage for the winter and I am anxiously awaiting our first trip with it this spring. I have access to it so I have some plans to prepare it for the upcoming season at a relaxed pace over the next few months.
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