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07-16-2021, 11:59 AM
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Rivet Master 
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,298
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Never had 2 AC's or an Airstream as new as those. But I can say that no Airstream is really very well insulated because they are only 1 inch thick and are made of Aluminum with ribs to conduct heat. No, the polished Al is not as reflective as gloss white paint or fiberglass. The polished Al seems to respond about like light gray in the sun.
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07-16-2021, 12:12 PM
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Rivet Master 
2008 27' Safari FB SE
2008 27' Safari FB SE
Miami
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,157
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jondrew55
Just wondering, what would adding another AC cost? Does that include upping the coach to 50 amps or just pulling separate line in for the 2nd AC?
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07-16-2021, 12:44 PM
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Rivet Master 
2021 30' Globetrotter
Oviedo
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,419
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Even silver metal gets too hot to put your hand on in direct summer heat. And I'm sure it radiates both ways. Add in those wonderful windows to make a perfect oven!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill M.
Never had 2 AC's or an Airstream as new as those. But I can say that no Airstream is really very well insulated because they are only 1 inch thick and are made of Aluminum with ribs to conduct heat. No, the polished Al is not as reflective as gloss white paint or fiberglass. The polished Al seems to respond about like light gray in the sun.
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07-16-2021, 11:22 PM
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Site Team

2017 30' International
Broomfield
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,555
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2 possibilities to chose from
Quote:
Originally Posted by jondrew55;
Just wondering, what would adding another AC cost? Does that include upping the coach to 50 amps or just pulling separate line in for the 2nd AC?
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Based on what others have reported the cost is $11k+ to install a bedroom AC unit in a ducted airstream. If you call airstream In Jackson center can give you a formal quote.
Yes includes new 50A 240v service.
It’s quite the job from what I understand.
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07-17-2021, 08:36 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 17,065
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jondrew55
The GT was bought in may and I would think I have the remainder of that one. The serenity’s owner has about a year of the original plus he said he’s got some sort of 7-year extended warranty. Oh yea, the GT comes with a prorider hitch )which is probably overkill for my truck, but I’ll take it). Significant price difference too that needs to be considered since the GT is practically brand new.
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Hi
The factory warranty on an AS is a very good thing. Extended warranties are (in general) utterly useless. If you are asked to pay anything to transfer that 7 year extended thing ... think very carefully about it.
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Converting to 50A and adding another A/C unit ... lots of money and lots of hassle.
Bob
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07-18-2021, 07:47 AM
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1 Rivet Member 
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wayne
, New Jersey
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 17
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Howdy,
Own a 25ft GT FB twin. Purchased new with 50 amp 2 AC units. Traded our 30ft Classic in for the GT. Easier to park, pull etc. Was camping in Fort Wilderness, lots of shade. Second AC unit quit working! Temps 92 degrees outside. REALLY glad had opted for 2 AC units especially with our dog traveling with us! Don’t miss one less Fantastic Fan.
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07-18-2021, 10:55 AM
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1 Rivet Member 
2016 28' International
Annapolis
, Maryland
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 15
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Get the 28 international
Hello,
I have had both floorpans and currently have a 2016 International 28U (Not sure if they still call it that, the "U" designation was for the dinette I believe) and I absolutely love it. Get the International....the long bench on the 25 is absolutely useless and is a huge waste of space.
Mark
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07-18-2021, 02:38 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2016 30' International
1957 18' Wanderer
Marfa
, Everywhere
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 104
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For the 30 footer you need the 50amp/ 2AC set up for sure. We've lived in our 30 foot Serenity for 4 years and believe me, you need two air conditioners! Even with a cover in anything over 85 degrees. And for three people traveling together, you need the space of the 30 footer. And being able to NOT crawl over your partner to get out of bed: priceless!
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07-18-2021, 03:06 PM
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Rivet Master 
2021 30' Globetrotter
Oviedo
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,419
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Decision made. Went with the GT. Should have it next week.
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07-18-2021, 03:18 PM
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Rivet Master 
2016 27' International
Sherwood Park
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,034
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Good choice. We went with a single AC in our Serenity based on my previous experience with a single AC being quite adequate in a 36' 5th wheel.
It turns out to be an apples to oranges comparison. The skin on the Airstream gets so much hotter than the 5th wheel and consequently, the interior gets much hotter as well.
We spent a week in Robles CA in 95+ heat in both. 5th wheel was no issue, 3 days in with the AS and we had to move on as it was unbearable as the a/c would not cool things much lower than low 80s.
In FL, you will be glad you made the choice you did.
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07-18-2021, 06:29 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
2018 28' International
Readfield
, Maine
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 23
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Key differences
Hi, I’ve owned aFC 25’ FB and now a 2018 28’ International Serenity.
The key for us is not having to break down the dinette area for lounge use. Also, with the 25’ FB configuration, the dinette seat back cushions tend to get thrown all over, being in the rear of the trailer.
The 28’ and 23’ models share one unique design element no other Modern AS have: the dinette area overlooks the same side of the trailer as the door. This is a mixed blessing. On the one hand, the big windows overlook the outdoor patio area. On the other hand, opening the window adjacent to the door is a no-no, because if you open it, and then open the door without stopping it in time, you’ll be replacing the window...Also, on the 28’ Serenity, the vista view windows over the dinette area are useless when the awning is deployed.
We love the decor in the Serenity, as well as the bedroom layout. Ours is a twin with a queen mattress, so we have the panoramic windows. Ours has one AC, so it’s a 30 Amp setup. This means that if you are running the AC, using the microwave can trip the AC breaker.
Have had no issues with the one AC cooling the trailer in Florida in March & April, but we are usually outdoors during the daylight hours.
Good luck!
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07-18-2021, 06:43 PM
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Rivet Master 
2021 30' Globetrotter
Oviedo
, Florida
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,419
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As I was trying to convince myself the single AC would not be an issue because we had a larger conventional trailer with a single 15k AC, it became apparent from the responses here that the airstream May look .Ike a thermos bottle, but in fact it is not that well insulated. Add to that all the windows and I think we’d be sorry campers in situations where there was no shade like some of the campgrounds we like. In any event, we just liked the GT floor plan in the 25 more than we liked the Serenity. But of course you never know till you have used it a few times. So I imagine we’ll know better in a month or so as we already have several trips planned.
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Originally Posted by Greg1960
Hi, I’ve owned aFC 25’ FB and now a 2018 28’ International Serenity.
The key for us is not having to break down the dinette area for lounge use. Also, with the 25’ FB configuration, the dinette seat back cushions tend to get thrown all over, being in the rear of the trailer.
The 28’ and 23’ models share one unique design element no other Modern AS have: the dinette area overlooks the same side of the trailer as the door. This is a mixed blessing. On the one hand, the big windows overlook the outdoor patio area. On the other hand, opening the window adjacent to the door is a no-no, because if you open it, and then open the door without stopping it in time, you’ll be replacing the window...Also, on the 28’ Serenity, the vista view windows over the dinette area are useless when the awning is deployed.
We love the decor in the Serenity, as well as the bedroom layout. Ours is a twin with a queen mattress, so we have the panoramic windows. Ours has one AC, so it’s a 30 Amp setup. This means that if you are running the AC, using the microwave can trip the AC breaker.
Have had no issues with the one AC cooling the trailer in Florida in March & April, but we are usually outdoors during the daylight hours.
Good luck!
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