Honda eu2000i tandem with eu2200i

[Spaggs]

My wife and I are planning on purchasing a 27’ or 28’ FC this winter and have a Honda eu2000i we’ve owned for a few years. Our plan is to tandem with a new eu2200i and mount them, along with a couple of auxiliary fuel tanks, in a couple of boxes hanging off the back end of our Ford Excursion.
Has anyone used this same power source?
I’m interested in what else we can power, besides one (1) a/c.
I’m also interested in how the noise effects sleeping at night, thus the indecision about where the bed should be located.
Thanks.

[lsbrodsky]

Yes, that is the power source I have. Check the Honda site or Genconnex to be sure your 2000 serial number is in the range for paralleling with the 2200. You are probably buying a 50 amp trailer with one of those refrigerators that will not run on propane, so I cannot really help you with the loads. Figure out what your refrigerator needs add about 16 amps for 1 A/C and you have the rest for your charger/converter and anything else you want, like TV's etc. You are not going to run a microwave with your A/C and refrigerator running.
As for noise, these guys are very quiet. You will never hear them from the opposite end of the trailer unless the windows are open and you listen carefully. You will hear them if they are right outside your window. I put mine in the truck bed.
Larry

[Ted S.]

As of 2 hrs ago I have the exact set up. I just bought the 2200. I plan to try it out tomorrow. Check your serial number of the 2000 against those on this pdf

http://cdn.powerequipment.honda.com/...-Operation.pdf

We also have an Excursion but i don’t think I want the extra weight on the tongue.

Do you have surge protection?

[Spaggs]

I checked and my 2000 has the correct serial number. If I can run the one (1) a/c and fridge at the same time, that would be enough. Those two (2) appliances I would like to have running at night when sleeping. During the day, I could switch out appliances.
Cool. Thanks.

[rjmaype]

Is the King of SUVs a PSD?
If not use that fuel tank as storage

[gypsydad]

Couple of thoughts: 1) what is the payload of your Excursion? Likely with the tongue weight of your AS, the added weight of 2 Honda's plus platform may be a concern when you also add the passengers and cargo inside to the tongue weight total...need to confirm your total weight against the sticker on your driers door that says "max payload".. 2) if you add a Microair Easystart capacitor on one of your AC's, you can get by with just one Honda 2200 running the AC...like earlier post, you wont use microwave likely, while on AC running, but to us, no big deal.

[Spaggs]

I have an Aluminess rear bumper with arms rated at 150 lbs each. Hondas plus fuel and fuel tanks are just shy of the max.
Suspension has been upgraded to F350 specs and total weight of my wife, the dog and me is at 330lbs, so we do have some wiggle room.

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by Spaggs

I have an Aluminess rear bumper with arms rated at 150 lbs each. Hondas plus fuel and fuel tanks are just shy of the max.
Suspension has been upgraded to F350 specs and total weight of my wife, the dog and me is at 330lbs, so we do have some wiggle room.

Sounds like you got this down. My 250 is at 2200lbs...AS at 1100lbs tongue weight, but even with generator, camp gear, bbq, extra propane bottle, wife, we are under max payload...

[Spaggs]

Originally Posted by gypsydad

Couple of thoughts: 1) what is the payload of your Excursion? Likely with the tongue weight of your AS, the added weight of 2 Honda's plus platform may be a concern when you also add the passengers and cargo inside to the tongue weight total...need to confirm your total weight against the sticker on your driers door that says "max payload".. 2) if you add a Microair Easystart capacitor on one of your AC's, you can get by with just one Honda 2200 running the AC...like earlier post, you wont use microwave likely, while on AC running, but to us, no big deal.

Thanks for the Microair Easystart suggestion. I think I’ll get two (2). This way I can cool the kitchen during the day and bedroom at night. Sounds like the 2200 should be used for the a/c and the 2000 for the fridge.

[TeckTavern]

I have a 2000 paired with a 2200 on my 30amp 28' IS/RB -- works like a charm. I also installed an Easy Start on the HVAC and a Surge Guard with monitor. The Surge Guard monitor shows the Easy Start in action when I turn on the AC. It goes from 3 to 8 to 12 to 17 amps as the air compressor starts up. So, I tried running the AC on just the 2200 and that works fine as well. I've been camping all summer on a 20amp shore power hookup and while I do have to manage the load, I don't find it intolerable.
Bottom line: the two Hondas work great, the dull hum will be an issue if they are right outside your bedroom...but if you have a rear bed setup, it'll be a lot better.

[Spaggs]

Originally Posted by TeckTavern

I have a 2000 paired with a 2200 on my 30amp 28' IS/RB -- works like a charm. I also installed an Easy Start on the HVAC and a Surge Guard with monitor. The Surge Guard monitor shows the Easy Start in action when I turn on the AC. It goes from 3 to 8 to 12 to 17 amps as the air compressor starts up. So, I tried running the AC on just the 2200 and that works fine as well. I've been camping all summer on a 20amp shore power hookup and while I do have to manage the load, I don't find it intolerable.
Bottom line: the two Hondas work great, the dull hum will be an issue if they are right outside your bedroom...but if you have a rear bed setup, it'll be a lot better.

That sounds encouraging. Thanks for the input. I’m thinking a 28’ since it has the bedroom in the rear. Still getting ready for the big purchase.

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by Spaggs

Thanks for the Microair Easystart suggestion. I think I’ll get two (2). This way I can cool the kitchen during the day and bedroom at night. Sounds like the 2200 should be used for the a/c and the 2000 for the fridge.

Sounds like a plan...just not sure the second Honda is needed...if your going that route, consider the Dual Fuel 3400...IMHO.

FYI- I run my fridge on propane typically, unless plugged into shore power...propane use is minimal...bottle lasts a long time just with the fridge.

[TeckTavern]

True Enough! At 96 lbs, the 3400 was well beyond what I wanted to lug around...but that's a function of age and a bad back. The Hondas weigh 45 lbs each, are quieter by 11 dBa, and give me the option of sharing one if needed. Ideally, when I can find a dual fuel that weighs 50 lbs and produces 30 amps, I'm all in!

[Spaggs]

I’ve got these two (2) boxes my father-in-law gave me about eight (8) years ago that each house a Honda 2000/2200 and a seven (7) gallon spun aluminum round gas tank. The fit is perfect, like they were made for this exact purpose. Really wierd because he passed away before I figured out what to do with them. When I get done repainting them and mounting them, I’ll share some pics.
This is the Aluminess bumper I got which supports 150 lbs on each swing arm.

[TeckTavern]

Good suggestion on fridge and propane. Fridge only draws 3-4 amps on electric. Propane use is much more efficient.

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by TeckTavern

True Enough! At 96 lbs, the 3400 was well beyond what I wanted to lug around...but that's a function of age and a bad back. The Hondas weigh 45 lbs each, are quieter by 11 dBa, and give me the option of sharing one if needed. Ideally, when I can find a dual fuel that weighs 50 lbs and produces 30 amps, I'm all in!

I agree with your comments except the noise db numbers are off from my experience. I have used my db sound meter app several times while camping to compare the noise when next to the 2000w Hondas and a Yamaha also compared to my Champion 3400. I found the noise at 20 feet to be about the same with my Champion and Hondas...Yamaha was a little quieter, but seems a different frequency also. Anyway, nothing to alarm neighbors either way. (and I have asked a few times) Here are the mfg. specs below:

Generator Mfg. Model Power Weight Noise
Honda EU2200i 1800-2200W 41-56 59dbs
Yamaha EF2000i 1600-2000w 44lbs 51.5dbs
Champion Dual Fuel 3400 3400W 95lbs 59dbs

[sheriff1]

Side by side test of Champion 3500 dual fuel and Honda EU 2000:
At eco position, charging batteries for example, Honda is quite noticeably quieter. At non eco throttle, running microwave or AC, Champion doesn’t have to rev to full capacity as the Honda does making it the quieter of the two.

[rmkrum]

I run my Champion 3400 dual fuel Inverter generator only on propane, in economy mode all the time, and it just comes up off idle a little bit to run the air conditioning compressor in 100 degree heat. It has never gone to full throttle. I do not have my MicroAir EasyStart installed yet.

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by Spaggs

I’ve got these two (2) boxes my father-in-law gave me about eight (8) years ago that each house a Honda 2000/2200 and a seven (7) gallon spun aluminum round gas tank. The fit is perfect, like they were made for this exact purpose. Really wierd because he passed away before I figured out what to do with them. When I get done repainting them and mounting them, I’ll share some pics.
This is the Aluminess bumper I got which supports 150 lbs on each swing arm.

Thats nice...as long as your not planning to tow larger than a 23' AS with tongue weights which would likely put you over the Max Payload number on the sticker on the driver doorjamb.

[Spaggs]

Originally Posted by gypsydad

Thats nice...as long as your not planning to tow larger than a 23' AS with tongue weights which would likely put you over the Max Payload number on the sticker on the driver doorjamb.

Payload is 1866 lbs. I’ll be towing a 28’ FC Queen. We should be good.