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Old 06-29-2024, 06:19 AM   #1
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FC30Bunk Input Wanted!

Hi all!
Goal is to get the 30FCBunk with twin beds end of year.
I’d love any input about the unit from bedding (beddies?) to initial issues to storage to tips and tricks.
We intend to buy our second rig first😊. Kids and adult kids and dog can be a lot.
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Old 07-01-2024, 10:07 AM   #2
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Hi all!
Goal is to get the 30FCBunk with twin beds end of year.
I’d love any input about the unit from bedding (beddies?) to initial issues to storage to tips and tricks.
We intend to buy our second rig first😊. Kids and adult kids and dog can be a lot.
We purchased ours back in January. Beautiful unit. A few things I don't like.
1) Difficult to make the bunk beds with the supplied bed covers. Beds are very comfortable especially the bunk queen. The FBT is awesome.

2) Instant hot water heater gets some getting used to. I would prefer the old way of heating the water...tank type.

3) The awning is manual and not easy to deploy by yourself. Get some help putting it out the first few times.

4) The lack of outdoor storage is one of the most complaints about Airstream. You figure out the best way to store stuff eventually.

I tow with a GMC 3/4 ton. I would recommend at least a 3/4 at a minimum.

Love the floorpan.
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Old 08-07-2024, 12:34 PM   #3
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We have a 2021 Bunk with the old style bunkbeds (smaller top bunk). Making the bottom bunk can be like wrestling a rhino, and I imagine a full size top bunk doesn't make it any easier, but it is worth it.



On our bottom bunk we use the stock mattress that came with the trailer, the Airstream Supply Company mattress topper ordered in that size, and a queen size beddy. I will be honest with you it is our most comfortable bed that we own either at home or in the Airstream. It is awesome back there and we fight over who sleeps there.


I think the downside to the 30FB Bunk is you get a small bathroom. I am 6'6", 215lbs, and while it is not an easy fit I find a way to make it work. I think the Airstream Supply teak shower floor mat and corner seat mat are a really nice look and were worth the money.


One of our favorite upgrades so far was the Microair thermostat - super easy install and we like being able to monitor and control it remotely from our phones.


I do think a 3" lift kit is a worthwhile investment on a 30 footer so that you don't scrape the back bumper, if buying again I would have the dealer install before pickup so that I don't have to re-set my hitch if getting it done later.
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Old 08-07-2024, 04:39 PM   #4
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You have a bit less storage in the bunk. You *do* have more sleeping space. Welcome to the world of tradeoffs .

One of the most basic "solutions" to this is a pretty big truck for a tow vehicle. Big cab (to haul those "extra sleepers ... " and a big bed to get back some storage.

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Old 08-08-2024, 06:23 AM   #5
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Having owned this very unit now for a few years, I can tell you that it's a great floorplan, particularly if you have kids.

My 2021 has the half top bunk in back, queen up front with cabinets and an absorption fridge.

If I had to do it over, I'd go for the twins up front. Why? Getting around that queen is not as simple as it looks. More room to change with twins, more exterior storage access. Also the twins get two front closets which were nixed when they removed the queen closets to allow a real front pano window.

If you boondock, the 12v compressor fridge will be in issue. 2024 and newer has a $5k option for 400AH of lithium batteries and more solar, but for the solar to work, you gotta be in sunlight. When I boondock, in mostly rustic campgrounds, there are trees, lots of them, reducing or outright limiting the solar power assistance. With the new rear full top bunk, to me the lower bunk seems a bit like a coffin, and the lack of any operating rear window as well as one HUGE window in the bathroom didn't overly impress me, but as has been pointed out, trade offs (again 2023 or 4 that rear bunk and bathroom window thing started).

This trailer has a massively heavy hitch weight. I weighed mine and came in just under 1100lbs partially loaded and I do tend to pack the trailer conservatively/lightly- truck not so much, but trailer for sure-, so make sure you have a TV that can handle the 8800lb trailer and the 1100lb hitch weight. It all depends how you load it up. I've hear some around 1000lbs and some at 1200lbs.

Get the 3" lift done and don't look back. I just got back from a 4000 mile round trip up to Banff, and back down stopping at Glacier and TR National Park. I can't begin to tell you how many times, even as careful as I could be how that lift kit on this trailer made the difference between a butt drag and a clear pass. In my opinion, with this trailer or any trailer 30' or longer, this shouldn't even be an option. Don't let the naysayers convince you otherwise, there are no ill effects I found other than maybe needed a few extra lynx leveler lego pads for the stabilizer jacks.

Macerator toilet- I think this was added a few years after the 30FB bunk arrived sometime around 2005ish. Reason being, the unit can sleep 6 comfortably and up to 8 sort of packed in (storage is a different story with that many, but...). The 18 gallon tank that was under the toilet would fill way too quickly with a lot of folks, so Airstream appears to have solved that by putting a bigger black tank in the trailer. Problem was, could not fit a larger tank back there in the same area without serious problems, so the Macerator toilet came to be so they could put a larger black tank in further away from the toilet proper and poof, the old bomb dropper toilet was gone and replaced with a piped Macerator toilet. It does work, but it does use a heck of a lot more water.

Like nearly all newer Airsreams, they have the Girard on-demand water heater. If you boondock, taking a navy shower can be difficult as the water heater has a high flow to activate and then if you shut it off to lather up, you get about 15-20 seconds of residual hot water, then it goes cold again as it did when you first started. This wastes a ton of water, but is really only a concern if you boondock. Most folk replace that water heater with a Truma and solved most problems as I've described.

If you get a preowned unit built prior to mid 2023, pay particular attention to the front sides of the front storage door behind the LP tanks. These units are notorious for front end separation. Dimples on either side of the utility door, many popped rivets that hold the door to the skin are a tell tale sign the unit has or is starting to get FES. After I think mid 2023, they came up with a fix, but out of warranty, if the skin is not cracked, can be about $1700. If the exterior skin is cracked, plan on significantly more. This is not unique to the 30' bunk, but most larger units with front storage...but given how heavy the front end can be, and the weight distribution can really take its toll on this unit if not properly secured.

Bottom line, it's a great floorplan and those are my observations. I would buy another, or even a new one- even with the limitations and dislikes I mentioned. Also fully agree, 3/4 is the minimum you should have for this trailer and having just gotten back from some serious mountain driving, diesel would have been far better. My gasser did it, but it was in 1st gear at 5-7% grades fighting to keep at 35-40mph. If you only travel the flatlands, basic 3/4 ton gasser would be fine. Most 1/2 tons don't have the payload for something like this...most, not all.
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Old 08-13-2024, 08:03 PM   #6
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Get the twin!

We have the queen and the older "1/2" bunk on top, wish it could fit a full-size child, but anyone over 5 years old and 50lbs isn't going up there. The others above have shared most of my opinions so I just came on to confirm that you won't regret getting the twins in the front bed compared to the queen. It's a pain to walk around with the limited room and if my calculations are correct they show that you get more mattress with the two twins. The queen dimensions are 60" x 75", and the twin is 36" x 80". 2 twins give you 12" more width and 5" more length. So it's a trade-off of cuddle time vs comfortable sleeping. Check with your significant other before making a decision

And the on-demand water heater is a PIA....
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