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Old 04-28-2021, 02:12 PM   #1
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We purchased a 2013 27FB and are in the process of upgrading the upholstery to look more like a 2019 with sandpiper ultratech fabric. Starting last November we reached out to Air Stream to order new cushions and were put in contact with their supplier (MidWest Composite). With COVID madness we were getting little to no response and finally gave up and engaged a local shop to order the exact fabric and copy them.


While the local shop has a 25yr reputation as a quality upholstery shop we are not happy with the results. We are working with them to rectify the issues but are having trouble getting right side dinette cushion correct (not to mention the sloppy piping on many of the cushions). (see attached pictures).


ASK: Could someone with 2019ish 27FB post pictures of this right side dinette cushion? Wondering if you can post multiple pictures so we can show the shop how it should be made.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 04-28-2021, 04:52 PM   #2
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We purchased a 2013 27FB and are in the process of upgrading the upholstery to look more like a 2019 with sandpiper ultratech fabric. Starting last November we reached out to Air Stream to order new cushions and were put in contact with their supplier (MidWest Composite). With COVID madness we were getting little to no response and finally gave up and engaged a local shop to order the exact fabric and copy them.


While the local shop has a 25yr reputation as a quality upholstery shop we are not happy with the results. We are working with them to rectify the issues but are having trouble getting right side dinette cushion correct (not to mention the sloppy piping on many of the cushions). (see attached pictures).


ASK: Could someone with 2019ish 27FB post pictures of this right side dinette cushion? Wondering if you can post multiple pictures so we can show the shop how it should be made.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Usually I upload pictures to an external site and then share, but I am having problems so I am trying a direct load. Sorry for the lack of cropping; this was taken as we moved in to our 2017 FBT. Now my wife covers all the cushions with sheets (she is Korean; she loves to cover anything that doesn't move). Hopefully this will upload!
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Thank you that is helpful. We also are hoping for a picture of the other end showing the zipper and seam against the walls.



My wife has also sent additional emails to MidWest in hopes that they might share the design of that cushion. They are very resistant to share proprietary information despite the fact that we repeatedly tried to purchase from them.
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Old 04-28-2021, 07:28 PM   #4
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Peter are you using Firefox as your browser maybe? FYI there is a fix for those extra blank lines:

https://www.airforums.com/forums/f48...ts-182555.html

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Old 04-30-2021, 05:24 PM   #6
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Do these help?

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Old 04-30-2021, 08:36 PM   #7
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An easy thing to miss with for anyone doing their first upholstery project on an Airstream is the inward curve on the walls. The back and corner pieces of foam have an inward slant of about 10 degrees. Only the inside edges should be cut at 90 degrees.square. If you reused the original foam cushions, the upholstery shop should have taken those and used them to make the pattern for the seat and back cushions. Some people make.the mistake of using the plywood under the seat for the pattern. Not too awful on a side couch, but a disaster in a corner cushion.

The cording on your seats is just badly done. On FABRIC, cording is done on the bias (diagonal to the weave). On synthetic leather, grain doesn't matter, but NOT stretching either layer when sewing it together does. Commercial machines have a "walking foot" which moves the two layers together when properly adjusted.... Wild a$$ guess, but did the ownership of the shop recently change, or did Uncle Liugi recently retire and was replaced by someone with two weeks experience?

I've made many custom slipcovers and upholstery pieces... and I learned from books (before the internet was born). The thing that saved me from early disasters was making PRACTICE covers from cheap fabric (sheets from K-Mart, bargain bins at fabric stores, and occasionally finding a gathered skirt in a thrift store... waistband off and you've got 4 yards of fabric.) My mother, may she rest in peace, used to take worn out sheets and make pillow cases out of the sides, top and bottom - because they really only wore out in the center... but when we had 30 or so cramming the linen closet, I could play with the rest. That is still useful for test fitting stuff.
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.... Wild a$$ guess, but did the ownership of the shop recently change, or did Uncle Liugi recently retire and was replaced by someone with two weeks experience?
No they are the same owners. We had three referrals to this shop and made them correct a number of the cushions. We had a two week trip planned so they didn't finish the correction.

Now that we are back we want to provide specific examples for the corner cushion. They used the old covers and foam as templates. The ultra leather or whatever it is called is very rubbery and they should have known how to work with it. We are not happy and will get them to fix all of the cushions.
Thanks again for all that replied. This will help tremendously.
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