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Old 02-07-2021, 08:41 AM   #1
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2021 Flying Cloud vs 2021 International

I am wondering if I have all the differences noted below in the '21 FC versus '21 Int'l models. This is what I understand the '21 International differences to the FC include:

-Wheel Upgrade
-Awing Upgrade (fabric, awning package, power main Zip Dee)
-Floor & Upholstery Upgrade
-Dupant Corien Countertop w/undermount sink
-Moen Faucets Throughout
-Overheard Cabs with LED Lighting

Is there anything missing from this list?
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Old 02-11-2021, 11:15 PM   #2
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not sure if it changed in 2021 but in addition to LED overhead cabinet lighting, the access into the cabinets is via sliding panels. I have a flying cloud, and I actually prefer that the entire front panel folds open, giving access to the full space. In the international, you only get access to one side or the other.
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:36 AM   #3
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I have the 2021 Int.
The overhead cabinets are indeed sliding. I kind of like that, but to each is own.
The lighting does create a nice ambiance when the other lights are off, but you can see shadows of all your junk behind the plexiglass which to some may be annoying. I do also believe that you the appliances are un upgrade over the FC too.
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Old 02-12-2021, 11:54 AM   #4
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I have the 2021 Int.

The overhead cabinets are indeed sliding. I kind of like that, but to each is own.

The lighting does create a nice ambiance when the other lights are off, but you can see shadows of all your junk behind the plexiglass which to some may be annoying. I do also believe that you the appliances are un upgrade over the FC too.


I was not aware about the appliances upgrade. I assume that means the fridge and stove? And do you like your International? 25FBT seems to be our interest focus.
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Old 02-12-2021, 11:56 AM   #5
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not sure if it changed in 2021 but in addition to LED overhead cabinet lighting, the access into the cabinets is via sliding panels. I have a flying cloud, and I actually prefer that the entire front panel folds open, giving access to the full space. In the international, you only get access to one side or the other.


Thatís valid, and thank you for the perspective. I like the looks of the Internationals Cabinets, but I feel the functionality of the Flying Clouds would be better.
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Old 02-13-2021, 07:23 AM   #6
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I was not aware about the appliances upgrade. I assume that means the fridge and stove? And do you like your International? 25FBT seems to be our interest focus.
Fridge is the same I think in most models 25í and up until you get to the Classic series. The range I think is the difference.
We have the RBT-rear bed twin. We like the Rear Bed over the front because in that plan you can get both the convection microwave and the gas oven as well as the there being a little more room in the sink/toilet area.
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Old 03-03-2021, 05:01 PM   #7
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I just traded my 2020 international in for a FC 30bunk. All of my appliances in the FC are the same as my International. If the Bunk was available in the international, I would again have purchased an international. I enjoy the ambience of the international, the lighting, faux wood floor, rounded upper cabinets, hardwired & switched under mount lighting, Corian countertops, higher quality leather. Power awning...take it or leave it...it has just as many issues as benefits! Most of what I liked is more cosmetic than function. Your going to spend a lot of time in your AS, you better like the way it looks!
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not sure if it changed in 2021 but in addition to LED overhead cabinet lighting, the access into the cabinets is via sliding panels. I have a flying cloud, and I actually prefer that the entire front panel folds open, giving access to the full space. In the international, you only get access to one side or the other.
Agree totally ... we miss the upper hinged storage instead of the sliders ...plus with the overhead "windows" on the international, you forfeit cabinets in that area.
We would love to buy the cabinets and install over the windows... if you might know someone removing from a FC.
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Old 05-03-2021, 09:37 AM   #9
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I just traded my 2020 international in for a FC 30bunk. All of my appliances in the FC are the same as my International. If the Bunk was available in the international, I would again have purchased an international. I enjoy the ambience of the international, the lighting, faux wood floor, rounded upper cabinets, hardwired & switched under mount lighting, Corian countertops, higher quality leather. Power awning...take it or leave it...it has just as many issues as benefits! Most of what I liked is more cosmetic than function. Your going to spend a lot of time in your AS, you better like the way it looks!
I always wondered why they donít offer the 30í bunk in anything but a flying Cloud?
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