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05-02-2019, 04:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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Staring at pictures of the failed vac breaker and contemplating my navel...any one consider going in thru the removed exterior shower box to access the CB/CV. The CB/CV is right there, the opening looking fairly large, and maybe with a stubby screwdriver one could loosen the clamps enough to back off the pex connections.
RR did you ever got your box removed?
b
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Originally Posted by Rovin Raven
Ok, folks, back to a plumbing question.Has anyone replaced their outside shower? Do I just unscrew and pull out the box to unscrew the hoses, i.e. are they flexible hoses? Also, do I need to apply butyl tape to the flange first or just sealant around the perimeter? Any other suggestions?
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05-02-2019, 04:18 PM
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#2542
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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"Summerized" today with no leaks, and ran most systems, except fridge on propane. All OK. Bleach/water solution sitting in water tank and pipes overnight, to be flushed out manana. Chemicals in black tank.
Ignoring vacuum breaker until the fall probably.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Camping next week hopefully.
Cheers,
Peter
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05-02-2019, 05:47 PM
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#2543
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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Outstanding!!!! Souncs like a good strategy.
Have a great time.
Happy trails
B
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05-02-2019, 07:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 20' Flying Cloud
Westerly
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 654
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You can get at the vacuum breaker from the shower, but getting the threaded connector tight is really a two hand job. I think you are dreading taking out the dinette far more than you need to, it's pretty simple and should take a 1/2 hour.
-remove table
-remove cushions
-remove two plywood top pieces
-remove two screws through the seat back into the wall and one that holds a small angle bracket to the interior skin
-remove about a dozen wood screws that hold the top of seat to the base
-remove three screws along the seat edge against the interior skin
-un-stick the ultra-leather from the wall
-move the seat and done
You do need to remove the shower box so you can get to the vacuum break, that's very easy with the seat removed. After five or six years the ultra-leather had become stuck to the wall. Just needed to run my hand down it to un-stick it. The seat is made up of a base that is about 4-5" tall and a upper. Don't bother removing the base screws that go into the floor. Just remove the upper screws that go into the top of the base. You'll know what I mean when you do it. Whole job taking apart, replacing the vacuum break and reassembly will take two hours or so.
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05-02-2019, 09:35 PM
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#2545
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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smithcreek, i suspect you're right. Thanks for your comments. Exteior shower box is currently sealed well and why open that door. I'm only replacing the cb/cv so will swing by lowes/plumbing distributer...lots of wholesalers near by. Not interested in the kit/shipping.
B
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05-03-2019, 12:37 AM
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#2546
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smithcreek
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Whole job taking apart, replacing the vacuum break and reassembly will take two hours or so.
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Thanks for the confirmation, this was my guess.
Good luck, Bob!
Peter
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05-03-2019, 04:27 AM
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#2547
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1 Rivet Member
Asheville
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CruizinDux
Staring at pictures of the failed vac breaker and contemplating my navel...any one consider going in thru the removed exterior shower box to access the CB/CV. The CB/CV is right there, the opening looking fairly large, and maybe with a stubby screwdriver one could loosen the clamps enough to back off the pex connections.
RR did you ever got your box removed?
b
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Not sure if it will help, but if you search back to around page 136 of this thread, I posted a pretty in-depth description (with pictures) of how I accessed this on my 2007 20-footer...
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05-03-2019, 05:34 AM
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#2548
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Thank you for that reminder!
[click on orange arrow in quote to go directly to Post #1898 incl photos]
Quote:
Originally Posted by vandemusser
Thanks for all the help, folks! I can't believe I almost tore into the bath cabinet. That's not to say that pulling the dinette seat didn't have its challenges...
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Well . . . so much for my memory, I guess, given that I was right in the middle of that conversation . . .
Peter
PS -- See also Posts #1910 and #1922. Thanks again vandemusser.
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05-03-2019, 05:48 AM
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#2549
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Rivet Master
2013 20' Flying Cloud
Westerly
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
Thanks for the confirmation, this was my guess.
Good luck, Bob!
Peter
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If you know where and which screws to remove going into this it's pretty quick. Like I said, just don't mess with the screws holding the seat base to the floor. There are at least one or two I could not access because they were under a large wiring harness, so the only way was to remove the upper from the base.
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05-26-2019, 07:32 AM
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#2550
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Rivet Master
2016 23' International
Centennial
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,684
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Just got the Airstream home after some upgrades. I had GYE's put on. Finally found a reputable place in Colorado to have the work done. I also have the Tyron bands on my wheels and they were able to service my Airstream with those as well. New batteries, bearings greased, new tires....ready to get out and do some camping. Several of the campgrounds are closed this weekend because of so much snow up in the mountains. I feel sorry for the folks that had reservations and couldn't go. Our drought has been declared "over" and more snow is in the forecast for this coming week. Everything is really green this year!
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05-26-2019, 09:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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Steve, fresh juice and new shoes...time to rock and roll
https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-...kslide-roadway
Be careful out there
B
btw, did you ever get your water heater challenges figured out?
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05-27-2019, 02:03 AM
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#2552
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Thanks for the update Steve . . . that is some boulder in Bob's article!
Peter
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05-27-2019, 07:03 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 23' International
Centennial
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,684
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Dang rocks always getting in the way!! LOL...glad nobody was hurt.
I haven't fixed the water heater yet. Gave up on it last year and am going to order a Dinosaur board to see if that fixed the challenge. It works fine on electric...never worked well on propane. Couldn't get the manufacturer or Airstream to help. The dealer in our area sucks as well. So....I will continue to chip away at it until I get it figured out. I was going to leave the Airstream out until I leave on my trip and am glad I put it away in it's garage. We had hail overnight...I was in bed listening to it hit the flat roof on my house and was very grateful she was put away in a safe place.
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05-27-2019, 09:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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Steve, good call on the garage. Seems you had some hail damage previously.
We were in Memphis across from Graceland a few years ago under tornado watch. We were watching the 15 min news cycle as the storm approached...it split...north got the tornados and S (missippippi) got the golf ball hail. We were very lucky.
B
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05-28-2019, 07:09 AM
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#2555
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Rivet Master
2016 23' International
Centennial
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,684
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I had some damage back in 2016, right after buying the Airstream. It ended up being a few spots on the roof and are not visible from the ground....thank goodness! We have already had a lot of hail and tornado warnings this spring. Looks like there were some scares up in Ohio near the Alumapalooza gathering...I hope everyone is ok.
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06-03-2019, 05:26 PM
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#2556
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2 Rivet Member
Phoenix
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by centennialman
Dang rocks always getting in the way!! LOL...glad nobody was hurt.
I haven't fixed the water heater yet. Gave up on it last year and am going to order a Dinosaur board to see if that fixed the challenge. It works fine on electric...never worked well on propane. Couldn't get the manufacturer or Airstream to help. The dealer in our area sucks as well. So....I will continue to chip away at it until I get it figured out. I was going to leave the Airstream out until I leave on my trip and am glad I put it away in it's garage. We had hail overnight...I was in bed listening to it hit the flat roof on my house and was very grateful she was put away in a safe place.
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I purchased a 20’ 2018 Flying Cloud Bambi last year and the water heater would not run on propane, only on electric. Long story short, AS is aware of a problem with the circuit board. My repair guy received a replacement that too was bad. A nice person from Airstream finally sent him a new circuit board made by a different manufacturer and that void the trick. I sent a labor bill to the dealer where I purchased the Airstream and thy paid it. Good luck!
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06-03-2019, 06:09 PM
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#2557
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,491
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Has anyone replaced the screens on the big windows - I have a 2015 that has a screen that has come loose and I know I need to remove the shade - it looks to me like you have to remove the upper cabinet to get to the upper screws on the screen ? Have not tried to fix yet thought i would ask before I did :-)
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06-04-2019, 02:25 AM
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#2558
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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The last time I looked, Ken, that appeared to be the required process. More details in this short thread:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f516...ts-188178.html
Replacing the screen without removing the upper cabinet is possible IMO, but I did not attempt that. Rovin Raven got it done using a spoon for the upper spline, but the result was imperfect it appears.
Please let us know what you end up doing.
Thanks,
Peter
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06-04-2019, 05:04 AM
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#2559
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1 Rivet Member
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Cleveland
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by centennialman
Dang rocks always getting in the way!! LOL...glad nobody was hurt.
I haven't fixed the water heater yet. Gave up on it last year and am going to order a Dinosaur board to see if that fixed the challenge. It works fine on electric...never worked well on propane. Couldn't get the manufacturer or Airstream to help. The dealer in our area sucks as well. So....I will continue to chip away at it until I get it figured out. I was going to leave the Airstream out until I leave on my trip and am glad I put it away in it's garage. We had hail overnight...I was in bed listening to it hit the flat roof on my house and was very grateful she was put away in a safe place.
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Same symptoms with the water heater in our 23FB. Swapped for the Dino board and all is well. Called Dinosaur to confirm part # and ordered from Amazon. Easy plug and play replacement.
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06-04-2019, 05:59 AM
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#2560
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Rivet Master
2016 23' International
Centennial
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,684
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Thanks for the input on the circuit (Dinosaur) boards fellas! I am definitely going to get this done and hope that it is the final fix on the water heater.
Just got back from camping at Cherry Creek State Park. It's only a few miles from my home and a great place to start the camping season.
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