Showermiser experience anyone?

[ronalddodge]

Hello! Has anyone had any experience with the Showermiser? (https://www.showermiser.com). Seems like an obvious and effective water conservation capability, but I am not sure the complexity of reaching the fill, vent, and pressure lines.

Ron
2019 30' Classic RBQ

[dznf0g]

I have had mine installed for a couple years now. Definitely worth it if you utilize sites with no water hookups.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Airstream Forums mobile app

[KCurtis]

If you have a wife that washes her hair in your Airstream then she probably will not like it. Of course this depends on how long and thick her hair is. Mine didn’t care for it at all because of this. Plus, we rarely boondock and that was why I bought it in the first place.

[ronalddodge]

Hi - thank you for the feedback based on your experience. However, I’m not sure I understand it. The concept is that the showermiser recycles the fresh (cold) water as the water heater brings the temp up. How would this be an issue for someone washing their hair? I would think that this would be a huge benefit…

I am likely missing something and would love to understand better.

[Dexterpix]

Not sure what the real water savings is? 100 feet of 1/2 pex tubing has a volume of .92 of a gallon. How much water can there be between the water heater and the shower head? Let the water heater get to temp, turn the shower head to full hot, flush out the 10 feet of line (less than 1/10th of a gallon) then adjust to temp. Not really a savings. Shutting the shower head off between lathering up and rising saves more than that. JMO

Joe D

[s1000pre]

Originally Posted by Dexterpix

Not sure what the real water savings is? 100 feet of 1/2 pex tubing has a volume of .92 of a gallon. How much water can there be between the water heater and the shower head? Let the water heater get to temp, turn the shower head to full hot, flush out the 10 feet of line (less than 1/10th of a gallon) then adjust to temp. Not really a savings. Shutting the shower head off between lathering up and rising saves more than that. JMO

Joe D

You can still turn off the water while washing. The showermiser allows you to recirculate the water back to the fresh tank as it reaches temperature. You open the valve once it’s up to temp. My OEM on demand heater takes roughly 40 seconds or 1/2-3/4 gallons to kick out warm water.

[KCurtis]

Originally Posted by ronalddodge

Hi - thank you for the feedback based on your experience. However, I’m not sure I understand it. The concept is that the showermiser recycles the fresh (cold) water as the water heater brings the temp up. How would this be an issue for someone washing their hair? I would think that this would be a huge benefit…

I am likely missing something and would love to understand better.

You are correct… my mistake. I was thinking of the shower head. I do wish Airstream would install this product on their trailers in the factory though. It makes perfect sense.

[ronalddodge]

I get it… the gain may be small. I have a 2019 classic and on a cold day, i watch 1 to 2 gallons of fresh water fill up the gray tank while warm water makes it’s way to the shower head. I know how to conserve water once the shower is running at temp (30 years in the army…many times without warm water…).

I would love to hear how others reduce the waste. I turn on “max” hot water via the Alder panel for about 15 minutes before starting the shower. Any other tips?

Ron

[BigSxyWhtGuy]

We have a 18 classic and just catch the water and use it elsewhere like cooking or watering plants. It’s mostly important when boondocking to preserve tanks and keep you out longer.

If you’re hooked up we mostly just let it go down the drain and just dump grey often while on sewer.

[Wazbro]

Originally Posted by Dexterpix

Not sure what the real water savings is? 100 feet of 1/2 pex tubing has a volume of .92 of a gallon. How much water can there be between the water heater and the shower head? Let the water heater get to temp, turn the shower head to full hot, flush out the 10 feet of line (less than 1/10th of a gallon) then adjust to temp. Not really a savings. Shutting the shower head off between lathering up and rising saves more than that. JMO

Joe D

Your trailer came with a water heater with a tank. This is to save water with the new tankless water heaters that have a delay from the time water starts flowing before the water heater even starts heating water on RVs.

[Dexterpix]

Originally Posted by Wazbro

Your trailer came with a water heater with a tank. This is to save water with the new tankless water heaters that have a delay from the time water starts flowing before the water heater even starts heating water on RVs.

That makes sense! Could not understand the savings in my set up. Does seem that Airstream has done everything it can to make boondocking more complicated with the "upgrades" on the new units. My water heater is an additional 6 gallons of water to start the trip with when we fill up.

Thanks for the info

Joe D

[ricjones]

Originally Posted by Dexterpix

Not sure what the real water savings is? 100 feet of 1/2 pex tubing has a volume of .92 of a gallon. How much water can there be between the water heater and the shower head? Let the water heater get to temp, turn the shower head to full hot, flush out the 10 feet of line (less than 1/10th of a gallon) then adjust to temp. Not really a savings. Shutting the shower head off between lathering up and rising saves more than that. JMO

Joe D

The ShowerMiser makes a lot more sense for the new tankless water heaters. They waste a lot of water in our 23CBB 2022 each time you turn on the hot water. Plus, when doing dishes or navy showers, it takes all that time and waste EVERY time you turn the hot water back on. Like every time you shut the shower head off - the tankless shuts down - then turn it back on it has to start back up so you get a little hot water then cold again until it heats up again. Not good at all for boondocking. Not sure it makes as much sense with a hot water tank. The water does not stay hot between turning the hot water on and off.

[Browneyes430]

There’s a coupon code CJE that gets you 10% off and free shipping ��

[Dennis C]

I’ve got a ShowerMiser system in my motorhome that was installed at the factory. It’s nice to have and I use it whenever we dry camp. It works as advertised and I’m happy to have it.

In my opinion, the ShowerMiser is a great thing for someone who frequently dry camps or boondocks, especially if you have a small grey tank. My 23FB had a small grey tank at 30 gallons and it would have been nice to have in that trailer! My current rig has a 65 gallon grey tank and the tankless hot water heats up very quickly and stays hot. The ShowerMiser is nice but not something I’d likely pay to have installed if I didn’t already have it.

[Roadtech]

Originally Posted by Dennis C

In my opinion, the ShowerMiser is a great thing for someone who frequently dry camps or boondocks, especially if you have a small grey tank. My 23FB had a small grey tank at 30 gallons and it would have been nice to have in that trailer!

Unfortunately, I haven't found anyone that has successfully installed a ShowerMiser in a 23FB due to the tiny amount of access behind the shower. I would love to have it in my 23FB.

[Browneyes430]

I found a coupon code for the showermiser for 10% off & free shipping for anyone that’s interested. It’s: CJE

[Mehall]

Originally Posted by dznf0g

I have had mine installed for a couple years now. Definitely worth it if you utilize sites with no water hookups.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Airstream Forums mobile app

I have a 2023 25 FBT. So, where did you run the recirculated water from the Showermiser? If I connect the recirculated pipe to the fill pipe, I’m trying to figure out what keeps the water from backfilling the recirculating pipe when filling the water tank. Or losing pressure if you connect the recirculating pipe to the pump input as I saw in the product pictures.

[dznf0g]

Originally Posted by Mehall

I have a 2023 25 FBT. So, where did you run the recirculated water from the Showermiser? If I connect the recirculated pipe to the fill pipe, I’m trying to figure out what keeps the water from backfilling the recirculating pipe when filling the water tank. Or losing pressure if you connect the recirculating pipe to the pump input as I saw in the product pictures.

I don't know your particular plumbing layout. Mine recirculates to the pump suction line. No problem with pressure. Your basically making a loop when in bypass mode. Nor do I think it's a problem to tap the return to the fill hose.

[Wazbro]

Originally Posted by Mehall

I have a 2023 25 FBT. So, where did you run the recirculated water from the Showermiser? If I connect the recirculated pipe to the fill pipe, I’m trying to figure out what keeps the water from backfilling the recirculating pipe when filling the water tank. Or losing pressure if you connect the recirculating pipe to the pump input as I saw in the product pictures.

What keeps the water from backfilling the recirculating pipe when filling the water tank?
Showermiser is a valve that you must keep closed when not in use. Closed equals no flow in either direction.

[dznf0g]

Originally Posted by Wazbro

What keeps the water from backfilling the recirculating pipe when filling the water tank?
Showermiser is a valve that you must keep closed when not in use. Closed equals no flow in either direction.

Even if it were left open, and if there is really any, very low, pressure in the fill tube, and the valve were left open, gravity won't let it backflow up the recirculating pipe.
This is a non-issue.