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Old 06-05-2020, 11:23 AM   #1
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Ram Ecodiesel mated to late model Classic

Hello everyone.. I know a larger truck would be better, but will my '14 Ram Ecodiesel suffice hauling the Classic? Or would it be too much wear and tear on the transmission, drive train, and engine?

FYI I do have the GDE ECU upgrade.

Thanks for any insight you might offer.

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Old 06-05-2020, 12:23 PM   #2
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What does the trailer weigh and how much does your vehicle tow?

That there is the critical info needed to answer the question.
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Old 06-05-2020, 02:17 PM   #3
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Another question to answer is what is the payload of your RAM 1500. They are notoriously low and you might find yourself exceeding the limits.
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Old 06-06-2020, 06:33 AM   #4
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Hello everyone.. I know a larger truck would be better, but will my '14 Ram Ecodiesel suffice hauling the Classic? Or would it be too much wear and tear on the transmission, drive train, and engine?

FYI I do have the GDE ECU upgrade.

Thanks for any insight you might offer.

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Jim,
I traded my 2012 Eddie Bauer 25 for a 2019 Classic 30. I had a 2013 Ford F-150 3.5 Eco-Boost with the Max Tow Pkg. Towing capacity in excess of 10,500# and enough headroom in the GV load capacity for the tongue weight. I added new shocks and a pair of Roadmaster overload springs to the F-150 eventually. I have a ProPride hitch.

The F-150 would easily pull the Classic and there were plenty of brakes for any normal stop. I certainly knew the bigger trailer was behind me. The 25' EB had pulled like a breeze in any conditions while the Classic 30 moved the F-150 around a bit when large vehicles were passed or passed us.

The deal-breaker for me was going down any significant grade. The dramatically heavier trailer (EB ~5500# dry vs. Classic ~8800# dry) pushed the truck all over the road on long downhill grades. It was pretty frightening. It was so bad that the truck's "Excessive Trailer Sway" warning light came on and the truck applied braking which made things even worse. I finally got things under control and we took the rest of the long (like >5% downhill grades) slow with the tractor trailers.

We ended up buying a RAM 3500 leftover. That was overkill as any 3/4 ton would have been fine. I addition to towing capacity (you have plenty) and load capacity (you have enough), you need to consider the weight ratio between your TV and trailer. When your trailer weighs 2x your TV, it will always win the battle of who moves who around.
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Old 06-06-2020, 07:34 AM   #5
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Hello everyone.. I know a larger truck would be better, but will my '14 Ram Ecodiesel suffice hauling the Classic? Or would it be too much wear and tear on the transmission, drive train, and engine?

FYI I do have the GDE ECU upgrade.

Thanks for any insight you might offer.

Jim Ford
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FWIW......... I also had a 2014 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel CrewCab 4WD with four-wheel air suspension until two months ago. Only had 61,000 miles on it and loved it. I didn’t have the GDE tune, but that is a great add-on.

We purchased a 2020 Globetrotter 27 FBT last August and used the truck to tow the GT on two trips last Fall to Idaho and Moab UT. We live where there are mountain passes and elevations range from valley floors of ~4,500 to highway mountain summits ~9,000 feet. The engine and 1/2 ton frame pulled the TT without a problem most of the time. Higher mountain passes (highway, not off-road) we’re just OK.

Two months ago we traded the 1500 in for a 2020 Ram 2500 CrewCab with the Cummins 6.7L diesel. Why, if the 1500 was OK most of the time?

Payload capacity concerns and safety. Key points that helped me choose the 3/4 ton for your consideration:

- payload capacity on 1500 was 984 lbs. TT tongue weight is nearly 1,100 lbs. with two 30 lb propane tanks and batteries and empty water/waste tanks. Weighed old truck and TT at CAT scales and front axle was 3,240 lbs. and rear “drive” axle was 4,560 lbs while TT was 6,100 lbs. And, this was with an Equalizer WDH. We were overweight with the TT alone and no passengers or gear in the truck. Four-wheel air suspension helped mask the problem. Aside from the potential legal consequences, that exceeded my level of comfort for safety of people and equipment for us and others on the road.

- new truck has 2,184 payload capacity. No issues whatsoever. Same CAT scale numbers on new truck are 4,600 lbs front axle, 4,840 lbs on rear “drive” axle and same TT weight. And, that was without the Equalizer WDH ........ new truck has 2.5” hitch receiver size and I don’t like the using the adapter sleeve so I use a standard Gen-Y ball mount with 2 5/16 ball. I will get the WDH at some point.

- the new truck is 20 inches longer and the 3/4 ton chassis does have a more comfortable ride pulling the TT. Just came back from a trip to Grand Junction CO and it was a breeze. No trailer sway without WDH and the Cummins is probably overkill for 6,100 lbs. Traveling at elevation passing semi-trailers in the interstate was very easy.

There are other less critical points for choosing the 3/4 ton TV but these were the key factors for me.

Waiting for GDE to make a tune for the Cummins now.

Good luck........
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Old 06-06-2020, 07:45 AM   #6
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The 1500 is a great truck but safely towing is all about payload and tow capacity, That is why I upgraded to a 2500 last fall.
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Old 06-06-2020, 09:15 AM   #7
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Hi

You *can* tow an AS with a bicycle.

Since we don't know *which* Classic is under consideration (there's more than one ...) or much else about what you plan to do, the is no accurate way to fully answer the question.

If you tow twice a year for < 100 miles each time, you can get away with a lot. If that tow is all on level ground and at low speed, even more so. If you are towing 10 hours a day for more than 50 days a year.... in the mountains .... not so much.

I would not want to haul my Classic / my gear / my routes with a small truck. The truck might be able to do it, but I would be worn out pretty fast. Getting tired and making a (bad) mistake can be a much bigger deal than replacing your shocks a bit early.

Could I customize a small truck to turn it into a big truck? Sure, but it's probably cheaper to trade for the big truck ....

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Old 06-06-2020, 10:30 AM   #8
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I towed my 25 AI with a 1500 GMC for two years. In that time I blew out both rear shocks, replaced the U joints, and the trans tailpiece. Not to mention I was frequently over payload.
Get a 2500 truck of the brand you prefer. Gas or diesel is up to you. I settled on diesel and have not been sorry.
Sure you could pull it. But you also need to stop it.
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Old 06-06-2020, 01:02 PM   #9
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Hello everyone.. I know a larger truck would be better, but will my '14 Ram Ecodiesel suffice hauling the Classic? Or would it be too much wear and tear on the transmission, drive train, and engine?

FYI I do have the GDE ECU upgrade.

Thanks for any insight you might offer.

Jim Ford
2017 26U
We did the same thing 3 years ago. Traded a 28' International for a 2017 Classic. Our tow vehicle was a F-150 and it handled the classic as far as pulling was concerned but the trailer was bullying the F-150 and that made for some white knuckle rides especially out west on through the Rockies.
Lived with it for one season and traded up to a F-250 Powerstroke.
Problem solved.
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Old 06-07-2020, 02:35 PM   #10
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Ditto to frankly frank’s experience. The 3/4 ton beast makes for a world of difference.
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Old 06-07-2020, 05:37 PM   #11
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Fellas, thanks for your insight. While my Ecodiesel might do the job, the reality is the truck is too small for continuous safety. Thanks again!
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Old 06-07-2020, 05:52 PM   #12
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good call. Anything over 27 is too much for the 1500 Eco-deisel.
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