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02-20-2020, 08:18 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Mannford
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 29
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Nev-R-Lube axle phaseout?
Needed to replace a wheel hub on my 2018 Classic Nev-R-lube axle. MY A/S
dealers says Dexter will not make the Nev-R-lube anymore, switch the EZ lube design only. Meanwhile, I can't find a Nev-R-hub anywhere. Looks like I may
have to change out axles to the EZ design. Will be calling JC tomorrow to see
if Classic customers are out of luck when Nev-R hubs are needed.
Anyone else hear of this problem?
Gerald
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02-20-2020, 08:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Nope, but concerning..let us know what you find.
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02-20-2020, 09:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 20' Flying Cloud
Westerly
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 654
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I've called Dexter directly several times with questions and a warranty issue. They always answered the phone. Try calling them.
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02-20-2020, 11:59 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Byron
, California
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 37
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I don't think the nev-r-lube is all that. Once that bearing cartridge is pressed into the hub it is a one way trip, it ain't coming out. If you have a catastrophic failure that damages the hub/drum like I did it requires all new hubs and bearings, etc at $2000 each axle. I dodged the bullet with warranty, but will be looking to convert to a more traditional bearing set up in the future.
A word of advice to those about to have warranty expire is pay to have brakes serviced and inspected before that happens.
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02-21-2020, 05:27 AM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,436
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Quote:
Originally Posted by obytheway
I don't think the nev-r-lube is all that. Once that bearing cartridge is pressed into the hub it is a one way trip, it ain't coming out.
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I disagree.
Here is the Dexter pdf showing procedure.
http://www.dexterpartsonline.com/fil...20Bearings.pdf
It can be pressed out and replaced. It can be replaced w/o a press with correct bearing pusher-puller tool set. I've done it. This type bearing is used in a very large range of applications. Front wheel drive.
Harbor Freight tool, same as I used.
https://www.harborfreight.com/Front-...-Pc-63728.html
Gerald,
Is the hub casting damaged? Can you post pic please?
Don't give up yet.
Gary
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02-21-2020, 05:58 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Watching with interest...17yrs it's time.
Bob
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02-21-2020, 06:18 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GCinSC2
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I agree. Not an issue if you have a press. If you don't, its about $80-$120 for a new bearing (depending where you shop) and maybe $20 to carry in your hub and new bearing to a shop with a press.
Automotive 101.
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02-21-2020, 12:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 27' International
Sherwood Park
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,031
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
I agree. Not an issue if you have a press. If you don't, its about $80-$120 for a new bearing (depending where you shop) and maybe $20 to carry in your hub and new bearing to a shop with a press.
Automotive 101.
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Phew!! The panic was starting to set in. This sounds pretty straight forward.
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02-22-2020, 12:48 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Byron
, California
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 37
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Ouch, I was on a trip and a long way from home on a long holiday weekend when my issue developed. AS dealer said bearings couldn't be reused.
Guess I'll change my name to Ben Dover.
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02-22-2020, 02:08 AM
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Retired.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by obytheway
Ouch, I was on a trip and a long way from home on a long holiday weekend when my issue developed. AS dealer said bearings couldn't be reused.
Guess I'll change my name to Ben Dover.
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They're correct. They cannot be re-used. They CAN be replaced easily.
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02-22-2020, 11:19 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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...Without a 'catastrophic failure' photo it's hard to determine anything.
Are we talking,"easy" or "never"
If you are servicing, without such a failure, I'm hoping whatever bearings come on the new 4200#axles can be R&R, re-greased if needed .
New axles this Spring...inquiring mind trying to get it right.
Bob
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03-01-2020, 12:13 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Friday Harbor
, Washington
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 86
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Do I need to grease wheel bearing after 3 years in place?
My 2016 Flying Cloud 25 footer has not moved since purchased in October 2016. I live in it. Now it is to be towed about 125 miles to a new location. Do I need to re-grease the wheel bearings? Any advice appreciated. Thanks.
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03-01-2020, 12:21 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,616
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Cope
My 2016 Flying Cloud 25 footer has not moved since purchased in October 2016. I live in it. Now it is to be towed about 125 miles to a new location. Do I need to re-grease the wheel bearings? Any advice appreciated. Thanks.
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Your trailer should have the never lube bearings which is a sealed unit. If that is the case, you should be fine.
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03-01-2020, 12:57 PM
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:SPACE A" S/O 11 Air19745
2006 34' Classic S/O
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,766
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Am I to understand that Dexter no longer sells Never-lube axles and/or cartridges?
guskmg
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03-01-2020, 02:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Cope
My 2016 Flying Cloud 25 footer has not moved since purchased in October 2016. I live in it. Now it is to be towed about 125 miles to a new location. Do I need to re-grease the wheel bearings? Any advice appreciated. Thanks.
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IMO no rear whl drive autos go 50,00 miles or plus yrs. w/out repacking. This idea of repacking every 3 yrs bunch of hooey.
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03-01-2020, 09:35 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' Classic
Bluffton
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 214
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Interested to hear the answer.
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03-02-2020, 12:19 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Byron
, California
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 37
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To clarify, my failure was not bearings. They were fine. My failure was both right hand brake assemblies basically coming apart inside the drum during a hard braking incident on the freeway. I didn't realize I had a failure and continued on my way with a bunch of brake parts rattling around in the drum. Mechanic said adjuster was blown apart, actuator arms and magnets broke. Said drums were severely damaged and should/could not be reused.
Problem is bearing cartridge can be removed but not reused. At least that is what I was told. So new drums, new bearings. I was just happy Airstream Seattle took care of me over 4th July weekend and Dexter covered me.
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03-02-2020, 05:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,401
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Quote:
Originally Posted by obytheway
To clarify, my failure was not bearings. They were fine. My failure was both right hand brake assemblies basically coming apart inside the drum during a hard braking incident on the freeway. I didn't realize I had a failure and continued on my way with a bunch of brake parts rattling around in the drum. Mechanic said adjuster was blown apart, actuator arms and magnets broke. Said drums were severely damaged and should/could not be reused.
Problem is bearing cartridge can be removed but not reused. At least that is what I was told. So new drums, new bearings. I was just happy Airstream Seattle took care of me over 4th July weekend and Dexter covered me.
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I had the same thing happen on my last trip. The brake completely fell apart inside the drum and I drove about 100 miles before I realized the problem. The drum is ruined. I removed the drum, took off the brake assembly, reinstalled the drum and will have JC fix it in late may at my scheduled appointment.
I also had a similar incident on my 2017 FC25FB where the adjuster spring broke then the spring and adjuster were dragging on the brake drum. I just replaced the brake assembly that time without filing a warranty claim.
I wonder if these brake failures have anything to do with the nev-r-lube being discontinued.
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03-02-2020, 05:50 AM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirMiles
I had the same thing happen on my last trip. The brake completely fell apart inside the drum and I drove about 100 miles before I realized the problem. The drum is ruined. I removed the drum, took off the brake assembly, reinstalled the drum and will have JC fix it in late may at my scheduled appointment.
I also had a similar incident on my 2017 FC25FB where the adjuster spring broke then the spring and adjuster were dragging on the brake drum. I just replaced the brake assembly that time without filing a warranty claim.
I wonder if these brake failures have anything to do with the nev-r-lube being discontinued.
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A brake spring and adjuster based failure, IMHO is not related to the Nev-R-Lube bearing.
And we have no posted confirmation AFAIK of Nev-R-Lube parts being discontinued. Anyone have specific details by part number of discontinued status?
I just checked, the OP has not been back with any further details to report on his opening post.
Gary
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03-02-2020, 07:35 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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