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Old 01-26-2020, 03:46 PM   #1
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Levelled F250 + M30 Classic Tongue Weight Question

New member here and very soon to be new AS owners. (our previous RV'ing has been by means of a motorhome).

To start with, I have searched existing AF threads on tongue weight, etc. but haven't really found the answer to a pretty simple question I have as follows;

I have a 2019 Ford F250 CCSB which has been levelled in the form of a +2.00" front over-coil BDS/Zone lift and lowering of the rear height by -1.00" by replacing the stock 3.125" spring/axle blocks with 2.125 blocks. Unloaded the rake of the truck is near level with approx. +0.75" height at the rear (vs. front). The center point of my 2.500" hitch receiver is 19.5" from level ground surface. (as many of you may know, for whatever reason the 2019 F250's were produced with a somewhat abnormal height particularly at the rear of which has since been adjusted lower in the new 2020's.), My truck is a FX4 with towing pkg.

I am in the process of purchasing a M30 Classic and curious what to expect in terms of rear drop, i.e. distance in downward force will be once the full tongue weight of the empty M30 will be. "i.e. how much drop can I expect at the rear once the M30 is connected up?)

If all goes according to plan, I will be purchasing the particular M30 1,200 miles from my home base and don't want any surprises when I buy it, hook it up and head out and back to our home state next week.

The TT is pre-owned and does have an Equalizer hitch installed.

My question: "what should I expect in terms of rear drop in height at the truck's receiver hitch once the empty M30 is connected up", i.e. "inches". Per AS, the 2016 M30 has a OEM unloaded tongue weight of 773 lbs. (not sure how that is affected by the Equalizer hitch).

Sorry to be so lengthy, just a "newbie" needing advice.

Thanks.
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Old 01-26-2020, 05:26 PM   #2
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Wow. Thatís a lot of information. Donít know if my input is going to help but I have a completely stock diesel ram 2500. There is a substantial drop to get the ball low enough to tow the airstream. I have a blue ox weight distribution system as well and experience minimal drop on the truck.

Sounds like you want perfectly level though. Iíve never put any level to my setup but ,eye balling it, itís good enough for me.
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Old 01-26-2020, 05:45 PM   #3
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Here is my 2019 F250 Diesel with 1-1/2" front leveling blocks and stock rear blocks hitched up to a 25' Airstream with weight tickets: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...ml#post2205359 With my weight distribution hitch I can return the truck to level if desired. There's also a picture of the truck without the Airstream attached. I use a 9" drop shank with a Blue Ox SwayPro hitch. The truck squats about 1" to 1-1/2" before weight distribution. My tongue weight is 940# per the weight tickets.

Here is my 2019 F250 attached to my 2018 27' Globetrotter with weight tickets. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...ml#post2326921 1060# tongue weight per weight tickets. This picture and weight tickets are with my Propride 1500# hitch.
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Old 01-26-2020, 05:47 PM   #4
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Are you going to use a WD hitch?
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Old 01-26-2020, 06:16 PM   #5
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Are you going to use a WD hitch?
Yes, he stated it has an Equalizer hitch.

And my Propride hitch has 1400# bars not 1500# bars. It was too late to edit once I noticed that mistake. My Blue Ox hitch had 1500# bars and I also had 1000# bars for the Blue Ox. Either the 1000# bars or 1500# bars will work with the Blue Ox.
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Old 01-27-2020, 03:57 AM   #6
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Gents,

As stated in my OP, I apologize for having been so lengthy, i.e. the eye/brain strain, but I felt an explanation was needed to properly answer my question based on what will be my set-up.

You guys most certainly answered the call! Perfect.

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Old 01-27-2020, 09:18 AM   #7
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You will likely have 3 or more inches of sag unless you have the Camper package or HD spring pkg. with the heavier springs. You will get some of that back with a WD hitch set up correctly. I would expect in the neighbor hood of 1000-1100 lbs of tongue weight rigged for camping. My 31' drops my F350 with Gooseneck/5th wheel package about 3".
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My 2017 Ram is high in the rear until I hook up my 31 Classic and then it levels out...about a 4 inch drop.
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