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Old 01-04-2019, 08:29 PM   #1
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Level Placement

Picked up our 2019 30' Classic today and have spent this afternoon and evening getting familiar with how everything works. I am thinking that I might use an old fashion level when setting up but was wondering where the best location is to put it. I was thinking about putting it on top of the lp gas cover but was wondering how level it is since it's removable. Any suggestions about accurate leveling?
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If you are talking about one of those large bubble levels, if possible, put the level where you can see it from the driver's seat. That will save a lot of steps each time you back in. I suggest you should place it somewhere on the body, a place that will not be removed for maintenance or service.
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Old 01-04-2019, 09:01 PM   #4
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that's where mine is too
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I use a Levelmate Pro in conjunction with Anderson Levelers.

Note: you first need to use a carpenter's spirit level to get the rig level in order to calibrate the Levelmate Pro. I use the level in several places - floor, countertop etc. (You would need to use a level first, even with the device mentioned above in order to get its placement calibrated.)

Procedure: Place the levellers under the low side wheels and move ahead (or back) onto the levellers until left/right is showing level. When you put the TV in park the rig may move a little, and go out of level, so I often move the low side a quarter of an inch high and then go into park. Chock the wheels (both sides) before using the tongue jack to remove the coupler from the ball. Remove the safety chains last thing and move the TV out of the way.

Use the tongue jack to get the fore/aft level.

Now calibrate the Levelmate Pro using the app.

There is a module that I permanently mounted under the sink that sends level information to an app on my iPhone. Turn it on and it shows which side is low and by how much on the app.

Next time you can just use the Levelmate Pro from your TV and level your rig single handed.
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+1 on Adventure ASís advice. I mounted the module behind the TV by the dinette- easy access for install and when you change the battery
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Old 01-05-2019, 05:38 AM   #7
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Getting the Airstream "level" is easy to over-think IMO. As your owner's manual should explain . . . if the trailer feels level as you walk down the hall, it is level enough for the fridge to work right. Older fridges required more precise leveling, and that outdated thinking is still rumbling around.



After a while, you will get used to eye-balling each site you pull/back into, such that you can pre-determine the leveling blocks you will need under each set of tires. After pulling onto the blocks, we use a short builder's level right on the floor at the main entry door. This way you can stand on the ground and assess things both fore/aft and L/R.

FYI the search function in the blue box above [desktop version of site] works great:

"fridge level" -- https://www.google.com/search?q=frid...=airforums.com

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Getting the Airstream "level" is easy to over-think IMO. As your owner's manual should explain . . . if the trailer feels level as you walk down the hall, it is level enough for the fridge to work right. Older fridges required more precise leveling, and that outdated thinking is still rumbling around...
I want to get the trailer level for comfort while sleeping more than levelling the refrigerator.

The LevelMate Pro is also excellent when trying to find a level spot in a pull-through site or parking lot when not using levelling blocks if not unhitching for the night. You would be surprised at how slopped parking lots are when trying to find a spot at W..Mart for the night.

Even if unhitched I will sometimes use the tongue jack to get for and aft level if possible. On occasion I have had to change the 'head' of the bed from one end to the other so my head is higher than my feet for sleeping.

To me, comfort is more important than KISS.
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Old 01-05-2019, 06:23 AM   #9
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We have a 2018 classic 30 RQB and carry a four foot level for our setup. Back trailer into position, open entrance door and place level on the floor for a side to side measurement. Went that is complete, unhook from TV and level front to back. Works for us!
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To me, comfort is more important than KISS.
Of course you cherry-picked a partial quote of mine to make your point, Ray.



I went on to describe in Post #7 using a small builder's level to get the trailer level [enough], and it would be very difficult for anyone sleeping to notice an out-of-level condition using this KISS solution.

Really . . .



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Picked up our 2019 30' Classic today and have spent this afternoon and evening getting familiar with how everything works. I am thinking that I might use an old fashion level when setting up but was wondering where the best location is to put it. I was thinking about putting it on top of the lp gas cover but was wondering how level it is since it's removable. Any suggestions about accurate leveling?
Before buying and installing the big level on the front of the trailer, look at how much area is obscured by the 40 pound tanks, and their cover...
Pull out your smart phone, go to the level app, and place the phone in the main doorway floor.
In reality, the fridge is arguably the most critical, but taking everything out of the freezer to place the phone there would be too much trouble.
Depending on how elaborate you want to get, some level apps will share between devices, so you can see how level your wife's phone is in the trailer, while you look at the reading on your phone in the truck.

BTW, is the grab handle light still working?
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With the 63 Safari and it's finicky fridge I put my 12" level in the freezer for fore & aft and on the floor for port & starboard.
"Cloudsplitter" is not as sensitive so we just level on the counter 'til it feels good. 😏

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"Cloudsplitter" is not as sensitive so we just level on the counter 'til it feels good. 😏

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Exactly. Sometimes "level" is overrated.
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Of course you cherry-picked a partial quote of mine to make your point, Ray.



I went on to describe in Post #7 using a small builder's level to get the trailer level [enough], and it would be very difficult for anyone sleeping to notice an out-of-level condition using this KISS solution.

Really . . .



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I use the iPhone level app. Works great. Just lay the phone on the floor and center the bubble in the bullseye.
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Exactly. Sometimes "level" is overrated.
Not having a level head, I'm not allowed to determine when the AS within spouse specs. 😘

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Since the refrigerator is the most sensitive to level, we use a small bubble level to make sure the fridge is as close to level as we can get within reason.
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I carry a small torpedo level. Iíve found the floor, table, countertop, and fridge are all different. I put the level on the floor inside the door to rough in the side to side level. Since I have the Husky 5000 I do the front back level from inside with the remote.
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I want to get the trailer level for comfort while sleeping more than levelling the refrigerator.
Us too. We usually put the level on the floor between the twin beds. That's where it counts the most.
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My goal when setting up is to have the cook top level. I hate for the liquid (egg) to run to one side of the frying pan!
Even though I have the big bubble on the front of the trailer I don't use it. I pull the trailer into the approximate location I want to park it. Then I use a torpedo level to one side of the cooktop on the counter top to estimate how much blocking I need on the low side of the trailer. Once the blocking is placed and the trailer tires on top of the blocking I use the same level on the countertop in front of the cooktop to level front to back with the tongue jack. Keep that frying pan level!
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