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Old 08-02-2017, 04:08 PM   #1
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Classic 30 vs 33

It seems like the classic 33 galley is a bit confining. All the extra space goes into the bathroom and gives a closed in feeling to the living area.
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Old 08-02-2017, 04:13 PM   #2
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Old 08-02-2017, 07:03 PM   #3
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Yes welcome. I haven't seen the 33 in person so I don't know if the galley area is the same as the 30. The bathroom is much bigger in the 33 for sure.
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:35 AM   #4
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Not considering the 33 at all, but would like to know from someone what AS has done to reinforce the rear end. In the 60's and 70's, maybe after they had large rear baths and eventually the rear sagged or broke off in many cases. My parents had one with a bathtub and it eventually started to sag this way.
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:48 AM   #5
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Not considering the 33 at all, but would like to know from someone what AS has done to reinforce the rear end. In the 60's and 70's, maybe after they had large rear baths and eventually the rear sagged or broke off in many cases. My parents had one with a bathtub and it eventually started to sag this way.
Well, for one, the larger units have fully boxed 5" frame rails. I have no frame concerns at all. Also, no rear baths and tanks are where they belong. Close to the axles.
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Old 08-03-2017, 07:15 AM   #6
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Well, for one, the larger units have fully boxed 5" frame rails. I have no frame concerns at all. Also, no rear baths and tanks are where they belong. Close to the axles.
Sort of figured they would get it. Nice to know, still not interested as our 2017 Classic is more that enough and working great at 100 + nights in. Hopefully we have passed most of the traditional "two year issues" and only have normal RV stuff to be concerned about moving forward.

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Not considering the 33 at all, but would like to know from someone what AS has done to reinforce the rear end. In the 60's and 70's, maybe after they had large rear baths and eventually the rear sagged or broke off in many cases. My parents had one with a bathtub and it eventually started to sag this way.
I think one of the biggest improvements that Airstream made was to move the grey and blackwater tanks closer to the axle. That pretty much took care of those issues. Most dealerships are well versed in the rear end sag issues of those vintage units and have come up with reinforcements that can be placed on the frame to bear up with the loads. It's probably best to try to empty these tanks on the vintage units prior to travel. That minimizes the stress on the frame when you are traveling. A lot depends on the condition of the frame and rust also has taken its toll on the strength of those vintage frames.

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Old 08-03-2017, 12:00 PM   #8
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I agree.
I don't like the loss of a 360 degree view like you get in the 30.
The real deal breaker, though, is that old school screen and projector.
Also, the stereo speakers in the lounge area are in stoopid locations. One speaker is in the end of the locker over the couch. The other speaker is under the computer desk. How dumb is that?
I'll stick with the 30.
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Old 08-03-2017, 01:08 PM   #9
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We have a 2017 classic and like others have thought about the new 33'.
Do not like the loss of the 360 view in the front.
Also that projection screen tv , not really sold on it. Having to walk to the bathroom at night to far. The sofa seems a bit shorter and the back part of it does not recline any.
Not sold on having all controls mixed in with the multi plex system. Do like having individual controls for the Alde and ac/hp pump system on 2017.
You do loose a few pounds on cargo in the trailer on the 33'. The actual difference in over length I think is 1"-7" not that much.

However that bath room is awesome. Don't know about the inter aluminum skin in the shower on one wall. Seems to be some gaps between the back bathroom wall and the metal trim.

Do like the power shades however how would one get them up or down if that system fails.

Just my 2 cents worth. For the money difference not worth it.

Really do like our 2017 30 classic.

Did mount a winegard road trip t4 on the roof, works great, also put 320 watts of Zamp solar, also works great.

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Old 08-03-2017, 01:17 PM   #10
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33's have automatic window shades. Thats kinda nice bc it seems the manual blinds get caught on window knobs, it also has hdmi inputs for streaming devices,etc. Just not sure 33 feet will tow nicely as a bumper pull.
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Old 08-03-2017, 02:15 PM   #11
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I have a 2016 Classic 30j. I had quite a few items that needed to be addressed upon delivery but all done now and I love it.
I wish I had installed four 100 watt solar panels on the roof instead of just one.
I hope to eventually add them and two Lifeline AMG 6 volt golf cart batteries as well as a Winegard Traveler satellite for direct tv.
I guess we all have wish lists. Overall, I totally love my 30 Classic .
I have looked at the 33. I loved the extra overhead lockers in the galley. The projection tv is huge and way cool because it retracts and you have a desk too. Nice for full timers.
I thought the bathroom was impressive with one major concern. The interior of the shower uses the aluminum interior wall as part of the shower stall. There is just a bead of caulk preventing water from penetrating into the wall and subfloor. I see a strong potential for water damaged subfloor. I would need to speak to a rep about this potential issue before I considered purchasing a 33 Classic .
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Old 08-03-2017, 07:16 PM   #12
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Sitting here in a 30 Classic, the view is very nice. I'm certainly a candidate for a larger shower. I'd rather have the view than the shower. I guess it comes down to ... err ... how much time do you spend in the shower or ... ummm ...

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Old 08-03-2017, 07:40 PM   #13
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Fair point. I love all the windows in my 30 Classic .
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Old 08-03-2017, 08:39 PM   #14
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I have actually stood in the shower of a new 33.
I pretended to be taking a bath.
My elbows still hit the wall and door.
It is a little larger, but still not Big enough.
It still isn't a residential shower or a campground bath house shower.
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:24 AM   #15
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Classic 30 vs a 33

Well I traded my 2015 for the Classic 33 and would never go back

The larger shower is great, mascerator toilet

The large TV is great for watching movies with the home theater

Everything for the large TV works off of 1 master remote

You now have a desk area for folks that work from the road

Power dinette table is plus.

Motion controlled floor lights for that trip to the bathroom

As far as towing it tows no different than the 30

More storage space

I feel this is the next generation Airstream, many modern conveniences

I normally resist change but this trailer is moving Airstream forward.

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Old 08-04-2017, 04:14 AM   #16
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I did like the motion sensor lights.
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I really like the 33' model and its innovations. I believe it is very forward thinking with the larger bathroom and getting the dinette out of the prime spot. I agree with Earl on most points. If you think about it, the bedroom, bathroom and seating are three components that have to be juggled from the ends of an Airstream- at least modern ones. The central bedroom is an older idea but perhaps one that could offer even other options. My thought is that a broken up bathroom is a negative unless done very carefully. I am not a fan of the shower closet in the hall. Keep the shower with the rest. The idea of putting the lounge area in the center area is great as it created a multi-purpose desk/entertainment console where you can watch TV looking straight-on and have a workspace too. The only thing I do not like about the 33' is the front bedroom. I understand why they have it that way- the pano window, but to me, front bedrooms are inefficient as the trunk is blocked by the tanks which is like a tease- look, here is your storage but you can't get to it, too bad. That is not unique to the 33'. The macerator toilet is a concern to me as so many have trouble with that according to posts. Some technologies seem to be best left out. Nerdy that I am always studying my interior and have come up with some interesting ideas. Too bad I am not a builder.

The rear bath is really nice with that space and a big wardrobe. The kitchen is 76" long which is pretty good. I am getting to the point that I would like to design an Airstream!
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Old 08-04-2017, 09:38 AM   #18
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I hit the ceiling as well as the walls in both the 30 and 33' showers when trying to do normal "shower" activities. Simple answer for me is to just live with it and get on with life.

There are plusses and minuses to having the bedroom and shower at opposite ends of the trailer. We have dogs. Navigating over them in the middle of the night ... not fun. Not bothering others would be a plus. I'm also not quite sure how well any of these setups work with more than two people. We haven't had the kids along yet ....They are still sold on tents and camping with an ocean view (just like we were back then ...).

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Having a bathroom that takes up something like 28% of the entire trailer for something you spend 3-5% of your time in, eliminates the rear panoramic windows (usually 90%+ of the best views are out the back of the trailer), and relegating all normal viewing from the couch and dinette out the sides of the trailer looking at another trailer is a really silly design.

But then again I do not like any AS that doesn't have front and rear panoramic windows. Easily one of the best features of the brand.
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Can't see it from an angle either, ie: sitting at the kitchen table. Watching TV is like sitting in the front row of a movie theater.
Nice bathroom though and bigger shower.
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