Rainbow Sticker On Truck/Airstream?

[Gene]

Originally Posted by silverleeper

I like AIR stickers...

The direction this thread is going is worrisome.

Never judge a book by the cover.

This is a forum about Airstreams and the people that are passionate about them.

I've thought about this post for a while and am still not clear on just what it means. It disturbs me.

My first impression was that I'd like Lee to define what "worrisome" means. Is sexual orientation not acceptable to discuss? Does saying "worrisome' insult an entire community of people and those that accept them? If so, it violates the "be nice" rule and you should be moderating yourself.

I have no idea what "Never judge a book by the cover" is supposed to mean in this context. As for the 3rd sentence, I assume gays and lesbians are still "people" and they are passionate about Airstreams.

Gene

[DKB_SATX]

Originally Posted by CrawfordGene

I've thought about this post for a while and am still not clear on just what it means. It disturbs me.

My first impression was that I'd like Lee to define what "worrisome" means. Is sexual orientation not acceptable to discuss? Does saying "worrisome' insult an entire community of people and those that accept them? If so, it violates the "be nice" rule and you should be moderating yourself.

I have no idea what "Never judge a book by the cover" is supposed to mean in this context. As for the 3rd sentence, I assume gays and lesbians are still "people" and they are passionate about Airstreams.

Gene

I agree that it's been a very grown-up discussion thus far. Perhaps my throwaway lament about the current batch of Supremes was too political, but frankly I've seen more heated and hateful discussions about tow vehicles or hitches.

[ROBERT CROSS]

Originally Posted by DKB_SATX

I agree that it's been a very grown-up discussion thus far. Perhaps my throwaway lament about the current batch of Supremes was too political, but frankly I've seen more heated and hateful discussions about tow vehicles or hitches.

I resemble that remark.

My hitch does too keep my trailer straight.

[Fly at Night]

Why should there be any need for this discussion at all?? Live and let live.

The anvil of "discussion" in any cyber arena usually degenerates into a hammering-out of ignorance anyways - particularly if the subject matter is a bit raw for some.

[cojer]

Originally Posted by Stefrobrts

I wouldn't put a FSM sticker on my rig, or one of those little fishies with feet, just because I don't care for the potential interactions, though I enjoy it when I see other people with them on their rigs.

I imagine something like this happening, but clearly these guys went too far

Southern cross - BBC Top Gear

THAT IS FRICKIN' HILARIOUS!!!....nothin' like gettin' the red necks all wound up just for a good laugh

[silverleeper]

Originally Posted by CrawfordGene

I've thought about this post for a while and am still not clear on just what it means. It disturbs me.

My first impression was that I'd like Lee to define what "worrisome" means. Is sexual orientation not acceptable to discuss? Does saying "worrisome' insult an entire community of people and those that accept them? If so, it violates the "be nice" rule and you should be moderating yourself.

I have no idea what "Never judge a book by the cover" is supposed to mean in this context. As for the 3rd sentence, I assume gays and lesbians are still "people" and they are passionate about Airstreams.

Gene

OK Gene, Take a look at the four or five posts before mine and you will see the Supreme Court, Racism and the throwing of ones sexuality around mentioned. This is worrisome to me and really does not belong on Airforums.

Could a Rainbow sticker on your TV, TT or Moho cause a problem? You had better believe it can...

I personally could care less what kind of sticker you have on your TV, TT or Moho. The sticker does not denote what kind of person is sitting in the TV, TT or Moho.

[cojer]

a sticker on your TT? is that the same thing as a pasty...sorry couldn't resist....what is a TT?...what is a Moho?....i guess i'm just not hip enough. you start throwing tweety codes or text abbreviations around and i get scared.

[DKB_SATX]

Originally Posted by cojer

a sticker on your TT? is that the same thing as a pasty...sorry couldn't resist....what is a TT?...what is a Moho?....i guess i'm just not hip enough. you start throwing tweety codes or text abbreviations around and i get scared.

TT: travel trailer
TV: tow vehicle
Moho: motorhome

[Airtandem]

A sticker is a sticker wether it b a rainbow, NRA, red neck et. If one wants to put it on their TV or AS, go ahead. It goes with the saying "IT PAYS TO ADVERTISE"
Another thought, why not form a sub group like TAC; the RAINBOW STREAMERS or by some other name?
Let's not get into the game of whose black/ white; married /single; gay/straight. we are streamers and here to camp and have fun.
PUT YOUR STICKERS ON AND GO ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF BEING A STREAMER! U R a grown up and can think for yourself and don't have to ask permission.
mike
TAC Ia-10

[Gringo]

Originally Posted by cojer

a sticker on your TT? is that the same thing as a pasty...sorry couldn't resist.....

hey, I had Cornish Pasties in Falmouth and Penzance, and they were delicious. I don't see the controversy, unless someone is a radical vegetarian or something.

[CallDon]

Originally Posted by DKB_SATX

I agree that it's been a very grown-up discussion thus far...but frankly I've seen more heated and hateful discussions about tow vehicles or hitches.

AMEN on that.

Hunter Hampton's Airstream list used to have heated discussions over tow weights, tow vehicles, the Beatrice Foods trailers and other things especially during election time, then they would all meet for a beer and laugh and joke.

It is neurotic to worry so much about a little rabbit chasing. I run a couple of Yahoo groups and rarely (never) correct anyone for going slightly off-topic. As is the nature of these discussions, they always come back to the main topic or...they just die out after a few posts. Nothing to get worried about there!

I think most forums are micro-managed way too much anyway. Adults don't need baby-sitters.

I would probably be more concerned about what the sticker did to the finish of the TT than the impact of what the sticker said. When I first got my '86 Argosy, some cop put a big orange sticker on my plastic escape window when I parked it on the street one night, not realizing the damage the adhesive could do to the window. THAT was worrisome.

Just my humble but most accurate opinion. YMMV.

Don

[TBRich]

We have a few stickers on our trailer's rear window. We won't put anything on the aluminum, including WBCCI numbers (they call us "baldies" when we don't have our number on the trailer)...what we have so far are: an Apply logo, the Airforums sticker, the Wally Byam seal and the 4Cunit sticker. I would not mind a rainbow but my partner does not want to become the target of the few idiots who might chose to deface our trailer if they realize we are gay. It's just not worth it to us. We are not wholly defined by our gayness just as we are not wholly defined by the fact that we use Apple products, or are Airstreamers, and we are proud of who we are, but being gay is, unfortunately, still a topic that elicits thoughtless acts of vandalism. We look forward to the day with this is no longer the case.

[Janet H]

Originally Posted by Gringo

hey, I had Cornish Pasties in Falmouth and Penzance, and they were delicious. I don't see the controversy, unless someone is a radical vegetarian or something.

ermm... I resemble that remark

[CallDon]

Originally Posted by TBRich

...we are not wholly defined by the fact that we use Apple products, or are Airstreamers, and we are proud of who we are...

Now this really bothers me. Apple products. I have been greatly offended by several friends who think Steve Jobs's xxxx doesn't stink. If you wrote "Apple" on a brick, they would buy the brick and swear that there is no better brick on the market. They would probably grow nothing but "Apple" trees in their yard.

OK, OK...I'm just kidding!!! . .

I'm kidding that it bothers me. But the rest is very true. I have friends like that. They wait in line for the latest iPhone or iPod or i-anything. None of them know I am an RVer and none of them have a clue about Airstreams, nor would they know how to react if I attempted to tell them about it.

When I got my red numbers 13+ years ago, I never put them on my '86 Argosy for the same reason, I did not want to some day see the ghosts of old numbers there. I thought I might put them on white cardboard for trips, then I discovered other folks had been doing that already. I'm not as dumb as I look...most of the time! So I probably would not put any type of sticker directly on my trailer. Maybe on a card in the window or something.

Don

[aftermath]

Originally Posted by silverleeper

Could a Rainbow sticker on your TV, TT or Moho cause a problem? You had better believe it can...

The sticker does not denote what kind of person is sitting in the TV, TT or Moho.

Personally, I believe that the kind of sticker on a truck or TT DOES denote what kind of person is sitting in it or in front of it. I also would have a bit of trouble sitting down with someone who proudly displays certain types of political stickers. A rainbow doesn't bother me in the least but I think it would bother some.
If the OP wants a simple yes or no, I would say no. That is only because I am one of those non confrontational types. I choose to get along with as many people as I can, especially in social settings.
We live in a country where people are quick to choose sides. I am not looking for a stage to state mine.

[Gene]

Originally Posted by silverleeper

OK Gene, Take a look at the four or five posts before mine and you will see the Supreme Court, Racism and the throwing of ones sexuality around mentioned. This is worrisome to me and really does not belong on Airforums.

Could a Rainbow sticker on your TV, TT or Moho cause a problem? You had better believe it can...

I personally could care less what kind of sticker you have on your TV, TT or Moho. The sticker does not denote what kind of person is sitting in the TV, TT or Moho.

So, does this mean among prohibited items to discuss are the supreme court, racism and "throwing of one[']s sexuality"? Are they politics or what? Trying to enforce vague rules puts a lot of responsibility on the enforcer and the enforcer has to be conscious his or her decisions may not make any sense to others and appear arbitrary.

Of course, any kind of sticker can result in a problem. But it does not "cause" the problem—the perp causes the problem, not the victim. Be careful of victimizing the victim. That is like saying a woman in shorts provokes a sexual attack and it is her fault if she is assaulted.

And a sticker can denote what kind of person is sitting in the vehicle, but one sticker only tells you part of what that person is about.

Gene

[silverleeper]

Originally Posted by CrawfordGene

So, does this mean among prohibited items to discuss are the supreme court, racism and "throwing of one[']s sexuality"? Are they politics or what? Trying to enforce vague rules puts a lot of responsibility on the enforcer and the enforcer has to be conscious his or her decisions may not make any sense to others and appear arbitrary.

Of course, any kind of sticker can result in a problem. But it does not "cause" the problem—the perp causes the problem, not the victim. Be careful of victimizing the victim. That is like saying a woman in shorts provokes a sexual attack and it is her fault if she is assaulted.

And a sticker can denote what kind of person is sitting in the vehicle, but one sticker only tells you part of what that person is about.

Gene

Spin this however you like Gene. Perp/victim -"woman in shorts". Really!!!

In case you have forgotten this is Airstream Forums - Airstream Owners Community. A forum about Airstreams and the people who enjoy them.

A sticker is just a sticker. Nothing more.

[TBRich]

Originally Posted by CallDon

....>snip<.....I have been greatly offended by several friends who think Steve Jobs's xxxx doesn't stink. If you wrote "Apple" on a brick, they would buy the brick and swear that there is no better brick on the market. They would probably grow nothing but "Apple" trees in their yard.

OK, OK...I'm just kidding!!! . .

....>snip<....

Don

Ha! That's funny! I truly don't know about his xxxx, but do like the computers. Bricks, I'm not so sure. I guess it would depend on if the bricks do what I need them to do better! Nothing more fun than good ol' fashioned Mac vs PC rib-jabbing.

[Moses]

I can't believe this thread is still going on! Do we really need to debate something as trivial as a rainbow sticker? I say "trivial" because in this day and age, it really should be a non-issue. I have no stickers on my Airstream for no particular reason. I might put something meaningful on it one day, just like I might get a tattoo. I doubt I will ask a widely used public forum for opinions though, cause I think all these different ways of thinking my prevent myself from just doing what is right for me. I think people will judge me for my character first and foremost, and if they judge me negatively....up to me to see if I am humble enough to accept this and perhaps change my character flaw, or up to me to not accept their negative judgement and decide that they are the ones that are flawed in there assessment (and maybe arrogant as well.)

I tell my employee's there are four things they should avoid discussing with clients...race, religion, politics, and sexual orientation. I can accept differing views from folks on all these topics, but sadly this is not true for all humans.

Sorry for the long winded rant. I think in North America, or at least on this forum, we are past this and this thread should die a quick a death.

Sent from my apple... with my small lap dog beside me... who happens to be watching a musical.... with my wife.

Camping anyone?

[eikel1we]

Originally Posted by silverleeper

I like AIR stickers...

The direction this thread is going is worrisome.

Never judge a book by the cover.

This is a forum about Airstreams and the people that are passionate about them.

1) I don't get the "worrisome" part.

2) Never judge a book by it's cover. Very Good!

3) Exactly!! Airforums is all about Airstreams and the people who own
them or want to. It's the premier place to find out what you need / want to know, learn how to do it, where to go, how to get there, find support for anything, and more


I'm sure many members will remember the continuing saga of a seriously injured member and his recovery. The trials and challanges he and his wife had to overcome in the many months of the threads life. They posted and the forums rallied 'round to support them. We do a great job of providing support for what ever the need here in Airforums. I know I have learned a lot and most of it has nothing to do with the afore mentioned mechanical stuff.

Happy trails to all and many thanks to Airforums and it's members for all the good things you do.

Suz