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12-29-2015, 03:18 PM
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#1261
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrjkq
That's a pretty impressive performance. You didn't mention any tire issues so I presume their were non. We're doing that big trip starting in May 16', Florida up to Buffalo for grandsons HS then on to Las Vegas & Palo Alto, Ca., visiting our children and grandchildren. I hope we share your success with a near flawless trip.
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Hi Joe,
We didn't have any tire issues with New Lucy. When she was brand new, we replaced the OEM Marathons with Michelin 16" LT's.
When we had Old Lucy (the 2005 Safari) she gave us fits with her Marathons. We ultimately got her s set of 16" Michelins. After that, we towed her another 60,000 miles without a single tire issue. When we got New Lucy, she immediately got a set of Michelin LT's.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-29-2015, 03:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,024
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Brian, I've been giving that some thought after the many threads I read about the marathon malfunctions. What are the particulars of your Michelins, size load etc. also what did you do with the 15" rims & tires, especially the rims.
Thanks,
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Joe
Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
TAC FL-47
2018 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel
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12-29-2015, 04:50 PM
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#1263
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,159
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Hi Joe,
Most recently on New Lucy, I purchased five 16" Michelin LT's, premounted on 16" rims which we put on Lucy ourselves. See photos below.
We had only put about 500 miles on New Lucy's OEM Marathons. We sold them to another Forums member for $600. This meant that New Lucy's tire upgrade cost us right at $1,000.
The Michelin LT's that we got are the Michelin LTX M/S2 LT225/75R16E. Max load is 2680# at 80 psi. I run mine at 72 psi.
The wheels we got are the Sendel T03's with zero offset.
We also used a set of Centramatic Balancers as we had used on Old Lucy.
As you can see from the photos, SuEllyn mounted the tires and wheels while I provided moral support and took pictures.
Brian
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SuEllyn & Brian McCabe
WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-29-2015, 04:59 PM
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#1264
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,024
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Thank you....Joe
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Joe
Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
TAC FL-47
2018 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel
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12-29-2015, 05:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Central
, Canada
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,082
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Brian your one lucky guy to have such a good looking tire technician! I have never been that lucky.
We upgraded our 28' to the 16" Michelin LT's as well. I had about 2,000KM on the original tires and my tire dealer still took them in on trade. If I remembered right I think he allowed me 700 against the 1600.00 for the new tires and wheels.
Cheers
Doug
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12-29-2015, 07:14 PM
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#1266
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcticfox
Brian your one lucky guy to have such a good looking tire technician! I have never been that lucky.
We upgraded our 28' to the 16" Michelin LT's as well. I had about 2,000KM on the original tires and my tire dealer still took them in on trade. If I remembered right I think he allowed me 700 against the 1600.00 for the new tires and wheels.
Cheers
Doug
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Hi Doug,
We were in the same ballpark on our tire upgrade deal. We added new Centramatics as we had had such good luck on Old Lucy's 16" Michelins. When we traded her in, those tires had 60,000 miles on them and show no appreciable tread wear.
Brian
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SuEllyn & Brian McCabe
WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-30-2015, 07:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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As a point of interest, we had installed the Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires on the factory wheels on our 2013 25FB International Serenity early on from reading the forum. After we traded it in, the dealer in Mesa, Arizona replaced the Michelins with the stock GYM ST225/75R15D tires saying they could not sell it with non-trailer rated tires.
If I was a betting man, those Michelin tires were put on someone else's trailer on their lot....
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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12-30-2015, 07:43 AM
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#1268
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4 Rivet Member
2015 25' Flying Cloud
GILBERT
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Can you tell me were and what size are the Centramatic Balancers you got.
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WBCCI # 9403 -- AIR # 95597
2015 FC 25' RB
2013 Chevy Tahoe LTZ
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12-30-2015, 07:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Upper St Clair
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,943
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Thanks for the update. Our 2015 30' has performed well, EXCEPT for the gas furnace. Her cycle is start, blow out the chamber (normal) fire the burner and then burner goes off. This cycles 5-7 times. Everything has been replaced except the furnace gas valve and the sail switch. Even the bottle regulator was switched.
Postponing our trip south for several reasons including this furnace, going in Monday the 4th for a quick furnace valve replacement and sail switch. Fortunately, the service guys at our dealer do this under warranty without much testing on their part, just take my word for what is happening.
Yesterday I even checked every gas fitting just to make sure we were not sucking in air, everything was tight. I also always light the three burner stove prior to firing up the furnace. I let it run for a minute, turn the burners off and fire the furnace.
Other than the furnace we are pleased and think she's a keeper.
Happy New Year
Bud
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2021 F350 6.7 King Ranch
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12-30-2015, 08:05 AM
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#1270
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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Centramatic Part Numbers for Airstream use:
14" 5 bolt pattern #200-221 standard part
15" 6 bolt pattern #200-221 Special
16" 6 bolt pattern #300-356 all A plates
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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12-30-2015, 08:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Can Centramatics be used on Airstreams with disc brakes?
Kelvin
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2008 Classic 25fb "Silver Mistress"
2015 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins. Crew Cab, 4x4, Silver
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12-30-2015, 10:46 AM
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#1272
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
Can Centramatics be used on Airstreams with disc brakes?
Kelvin
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Because they mount on the tire rim, why not?
Not sure if their site has an answer, but the videos are interesting, with the top right one being short and to the point:
Tire Balancers, Tire Balancing, Wheel Balancer and Wheel Balancing from Centramatic
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12-30-2015, 10:56 AM
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#1273
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KJRitchie
Can Centramatics be used on Airstreams with disc brakes?
Kelvin
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I really don't know the answer to your specific question, but I am also running Centramatics on my 2011 Silverado and it has four wheel disc brakes.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-30-2015, 11:37 AM
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Antiquepedaler
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Laramie
, Wyoming
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 832
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I just put 1200 miles on our new Michelins and feel very secure with them. One note... At the end of each day I put the torque wrench to the lugs and always found a couple out of spec. However, with the stock lug nuts replaced with the stainless solid ones, the job is a lot easier.
We're back in AZ for the winter.
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2021 Caravel 20 FB
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12-31-2015, 09:40 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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I installed the 16" Centramatics after converting the Classic to Kodiak disc brakes along with the 16" Michelin tires and SenDel wheels.
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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12-31-2015, 09:54 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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Here's an alternative idea. Michelin LTX M/S Defender 235/75R15. They have a load range 109T thats 2250 LBS per tire, more than ample for a 25ft AS, with 50LBS psi max. I'm aware that a load rang of D is better than C but the capability to carry 9000 lbs is there.
I understand that Can AM is using 15in Michelins as a replacement tire.
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Joe
Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
TAC FL-47
2018 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel
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12-31-2015, 10:15 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrjkq
Here's an alternative idea. Michelin LTX M/S Defender 235/75R15. They have a load range 109T thats 2250 LBS per tire, more than ample for a 25ft AS, with 50LBS psi max. I'm aware that a load rang of D is better than C but the capability to carry 9000 lbs is there.
I understand that Can AM is using 15in Michelins as a replacement tire.
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They should be great tires but I don't think they will be available in that size until March. If they are please let me know because I want them. Thanks.
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12-31-2015, 11:46 AM
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#1278
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dames7
Can you tell me were and what size are the Centramatic Balancers you got.
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The ones that we got for New Lucy are the 200-221 Airstream Special. We bought them directly from Centramatic in Alvarado, Texas.
Brian
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
2023 Rivian R1T (Opal)
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12-31-2015, 11:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,024
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You're correct on that avionstream, late March. We're doing a cross country trip starting late May so if that holds true I'll have them before the trip. I've chatted with a few either on here or Airstream Addicts on Facebook that have their predecessor and are very satisfied.
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Joe
Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
TAC FL-47
2018 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel
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12-31-2015, 12:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
The ones that we got for New Lucy are the 200-221 Airstream Special. We bought them directly from Centramatic in Alvarado, Texas.
Brian
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Brian, do they go between the tire & rim?
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Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
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2018 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel
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