2015 Flying Cloud 25FB

[blufishin]

Originally Posted by Msmoto

For those who want to learn and have a great time, plan on Alumalina next time....we are only a few hours down the road at Palmetto Cove RV Park near Cleveland, SC.

Join us next time....unless you are here already....

Yes, we were there last fall. Had a great time, especially enjoyed the possum bog!

[reelfastgreg]

moving to E rated tires is a waste of money. our trailers are simply not heavy enough to warrant tires of that rating.

[moosetags]

Originally Posted by gpt

moving to E rated tires is a waste of money. our trailers are simply not heavy enough to warrant tires of that rating.

I don't like wasting money either, but my tire experience is such that the only money that I wasted was by not going to 16" Michelins E's sooner, rather than later.

Both of our 25FB's have weighed-in at +/- 7,400# ready to camp. The OEM Goodyear Marathon load range D tires on the 2005 Safari did not fare well. We had three catastrophic failures (blowouts) within the first 12,000 miles. We then moved up to load range E Maxxis ST tires. Over the following 25,000 miles, we did not experience any further blowouts, but these tires experienced tread separation which mandated their replacement. We again went with a set of the Maxxis E's. This time we got only about 10,000 miles before experiencing tread separation. At this point, we decided to throw in the towel, and went to 16" wheels and load range E Michelin LT's. We continued another 60,000 miles with the 2005 Safari without any tire issues whatsoever. As a matter of fact, the Michelins did not show any significant tread wear when we sold the trailer.

When we purchased our 2015 Flying Cloud 25FB in October of 2014, we immediately replaced the OEM wheels and tires. We again went with the 16" wheels and Michelin LT's. We have now covered over 20,000 miles with new Lucy without the slightest tire issue.

Brian

[switz]

We installed 15" Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires on the stock wheels of our 2013 25FB International Serenity and carried the 44 psi tire pressure recommended by Andy at CanAm. Loaded for camping the axles were supporting 5,800 pounds or 1,450 pounds per tire. The derated capacity of these tires is 1,983 pounds, so there was more than enough load margin and a softer ride for the trailer.

Note that this tire has it's maximum load capacity at 41 psi with a maximum side wall pressure of 50 psi. The 44 psi recommended by Andy adds some side wall stiffness and he told me this setting has worked on thousands of trailers.

[Msmoto]

Maybe the best idea from all the tire wheel/discussions is that one must know the weight each wheel is carrying, and what the manufacturer recommends as the proper pressure to carry the weight measured.

I run slightly above the recommended on my 16" with Firestone Transforce 225/75-16...which is 46 psi with the 1800 lb per wheel. But, as some wheels may be carrying a bit more weight, plus I like a stiffer side to side stability, I run 54 psi.

The result is a much easier ride for the trailer vs. 65 psi with stock tires, albeit possibly some increased rolling resistance with lower pressures. Another reason I run 9 psi higher than the calculated pressure based on weight of the trailer.

[Antique Pedaler]

Originally Posted by switz

We installed 15" Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires on the stock wheels of our 2013 25FB International Serenity and carried the 44 psi tire pressure recommended by Andy at CanAm. Loaded for camping the axles were supporting 5,800 pounds or 1,450 pounds per tire. The derated capacity of these tires is 1,983 pounds, so there was more than enough load margin and a softer ride for the trailer.

Note that this tire has it's maximum load capacity at 41 psi with a maximum side wall pressure of 50 psi. The 44 psi recommended by Andy adds some side wall stiffness and he told me this setting has worked on thousands of trailers.

Each to their own, but I'm with you. After 6 years of trouble free miles with the originl GYMs I've now put one snowbird winter on new 15" LTX's. If Andy says 44 lbs pressure I guess I'll go with that.

[moosetags]

Getting back to New Lucy's air conditioning vents. It has now been about a month since I reattached 8 of 12 of the vents with two sided tape. So far, so good. None have fallen even though we have been back and forth using air conditioning and heat pump. Lucy has not been on a trip yet, but we are hoping that we have this problem solved.

On a brighter note, we have had over 11 inches of torrential rains in the last week here in the Florida Panhandle. New Lucy has not had any leaks.

Brian

[Gene]

Nice and colorful lights Brian. Are they plugged into either 120 or 12 v., or battery powered? How did you get them to stick to the windows? I'm not sure I'd do that, but maybe….

We got fewer miles but five years on our Michelin LTX 16" LR E tires, but they aged out rather than wore out. The tread was very good, probably because a trailer doesn't have any drive wheels (i.e., powered by an engine). Since the sidewalls were starting to crack, Michelin honored the warranty on them even though they were slightly beyond the date (on the tire, not when we bought them-a few months difference). I think I got about $40/tire discount for that. I believe the E range tires have a deeper tread than other tires of the same line and so you get more wear out of them. I check tread depth frequently so I can rotate tires to even out wear, but there's really very little difference between tires. Using tread gauge lets you know whether you have too much or too little air pressure. We have settled on 72 psi.

Brian, I'll try to get the Grand Mesa moose, all 400 of them, to show up this year so you can see them. Still a lot of snow up on the Mesa, though ours is gone (10,000' vs. 6,900').

Gene

[moosetags]

The lights inside Lucy's side windows are powered by 110. The light strip come with rape backing that is stuck to the window frame inside of the glass.

The light strip along the belt line on Lucy's the curb side is powered by 12 volt.

Brian

[OTRA15]

Would it be too rude to say that the colored lights look tacky as he.. to these eyes?

[moosetags]

Being Carnies at heart, traveling the highways and byways in our in our silver trailer, we have always found the colored lights most comforting and appropriate. Lucy's lights can be set on white, but that would tend to tone down the festival atmosphere. We put Lucy's lights on each evening before we go down to the beach for sunset. We do this to annoy the neighbors.

Brian

[SeaLevel]

Colored lights can hypnotize
Sparkle someone else's eyes

I can name that tune in ... seconds.

[RareStream]

Last trip there was some idiot in this huge bus motorhome and he had these stupid super bright blue cheezy LED lights completely surrounding the bottom of his motorhome shining down on the ground so that there was this ridiculously blinding silly blue light glowing and blinding the hell out of everyone camped around him literally all night long. Talk about inconsiderate and ignorant...not to mention how utterly classless and low-rent his sci-fi hovering trailer park rig looked to everyone in the campground. I still chuckle when I think about how "kewl" he probably thought his silly damn rig looked.

[Arcticfox]

Originally Posted by RareStream

Last trip there was some idiot in this huge bus motorhome and he had these stupid super bright blue cheezy LED lights completely surrounding the bottom of his motorhome shining down on the ground so that there was this ridiculously blinding silly blue light glowing and blinding the hell out of everyone camped around him literally all night long. Talk about inconsiderate and ignorant...not to mention how utterly classless and low-rent his sci-fi hovering trailer park rig looked to everyone in the campground. I still chuckle when I think about how "kewl" he probably thought his silly damn rig looked.

Now just to clarify. This was a Stupid, cheesy, ridiculously, blinding, inconsiderate, ignorant, utterly classless, low-rent, kewl, silly damn rig. Wow that was mouth full.

Now you wouldn't have a strong opinion on this would you?......lol
Sheesh!

[RareStream]

You forgot the idiot part haha...

[Gene]

Maybe I'll put colored LED's in my house windows to annoy the neighbors. I think the lights may look better inside than out, but several libations probably make them look better on either side. In Colorado, the highest state, soon we will have all the highway guard rails festooned with colored LED's.

Gene

[moosetags]

Originally Posted by Gene

Maybe I'll put colored LED's in my house windows to annoy the neighbors. I think the lights may look better inside than out, but several libations probably make them look better on either side. In Colorado, the highest state, soon we will have all the highway guard rails festooned with colored LED's.

Gene

That sounds great, Gene. We will have to come and see that. Since New Lucy's belt line LED's are 12 volt, I can can use them while undeway.

Brian

[Gene]

Originally Posted by moosetags

That sounds great, Gene. We will have to come and see that. Since New Lucy's belt line LED's are 12 volt, I can can use them while undeway.

Brian

I want to see you "can can" with colored lights while "und[i]eway".

On second thought, maybe not.

Gene

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by Arcticfox

Now just to clarify. This was a Stupid, cheesy, ridiculously, blinding, inconsiderate, ignorant, utterly classless, low-rent, kewl, silly damn rig. Wow that was mouth full.

Now you wouldn't have a strong opinion on this would you?......lol
Sheesh!

Kool! Did they happen to have a lava light?? Seems to me, that set up could command some "big scratch" if sold in Colorado..."ey man....look at those kool, groovy lights on that motorhome"! "I see it, man...first thought it was a saucer....pass me the joint"! LoL

[OTRA15]

Brian, just noticed this on another thread. Curious whether AS has told you about a fix? Thanks.

Peter

Originally Posted by AWCHIEF

. . .
For folks with early ducted air models. If you are having trouble with your overhead vents falling out they have a fix. Contact Airstream directly for info on that.
. . .